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Whiney Puppy

  • 19-06-2008 3:05pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47


    Hi,

    Hope you can help...I have a really whiney puppy.

    He cries and whines whenever he doesn't get what he wants.

    Was at my puppy class last nite and he was going beserk because other puppies were getting ham when being trained and he wanted more....none of the other puppies reacted as badly as him.

    When we went to the vets, he wanted to get down (couldn't cos he was there to vaccs) and wriggled and squirmed and cried to try and get down....it's really embarrassing....because I never see other puppies doing this!!

    Is this normal.....how do I stop him doing it....gonna speak to the trainer at next weeks class but was just wondering did anyone have any advice?

    Thanks :D


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Don't give in to it.

    You've probalby done it too many times already and he's learned that whingeing gets the result eventually.

    I'll be a tough few days ...but just don't give / get him anything as long as he acts up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭Discostuy


    I hear that ham is pretty bad for dogs too :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 jenjo23


    The veterinary nurse gave it to them......I'm sure she wouldn't if it was bad for them :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 jenjo23


    Thanks Peasent.....we do ignore him but he is so persistant :(

    We'll just have to keep it up!

    The vet told me he is a very confident and dominant dog so this prob has something to do with it, he just wants what he wants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭Pheonix Ski


    sounds like a typical male to me :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭gversey


    Discostuy wrote: »
    I hear that ham is pretty bad for dogs too :D
    Ham is usually too salty for dogs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    He has trained you to respond to whining with attention and treats.

    The solution is to train an alternative behaviour. If he whines for food, train him to lie quietly by your chair when you're eating. If he whines for petting, train him to sit quietly - and so on.

    Ham isn't good for dogs, but if he's crazy about it, it's ok as an *occasional* treat. Dogs don't have sweat glands, so salt isn't good for them - they can't sweat it out, and it goes straight to their poor kidneys.

    Whatever you do, don't let him whine and whine until you eventually sigh and give him what he wants. This trains him to whine persistently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Ruby-J


    sounds like a typical male to me :D

    lmao! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Lolalane


    what food are you feeding him?? certain brands are like fast food and can make your dog hyper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    Don't reward his whingeing with food or whatever, just ignore him until he is calm. another thing that seems to work is getting them to work for a treat/attention, I've started doing this with my dog who can be a bit hyper sometimes like I'll ignore him until he calms down and sits and then I'll give him plenty of fuss etc.

    Agree with Lolalane as well, a lot of foods have additives that aren't healthy and I suppose it's like feeding sweets to a kid it makes them hyper. you should avoid supermarket brands like bakers and pedigree and tinned foods and feed a natural type of food like something from the vets such as hills or maybe food like Husse or you could do home-cooked food for him. (buy your own meat etc for him)

    also make sure he gets plenty of exercise when he is old enough, most dogs need at least an hour a day preferably more depending on his activity level.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 jenjo23


    At the moment I am weaning him of his special diet food the vet put him on (ID) onto Red Mills Leader puppy food.......I knew that about the pedigree etc....I did do my research before I got the puppy.

    He doesn't get treats or get picked up when he whines....he gets completely ignored but still does it.

    The real problem is when I bring him to the vet for example....he's not allowed on the floor cos he doesn't have all his shots....so he goes nuts crying and squirming and making a show of me.....don't know how to stop him doing it....can't ignore him because I have to hold onto him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Lauragoesmad


    I know this sounds stupid but if you copy him it might make him stop. (Obviously when at home and not in the vets.:D)
    If you whine when he whines it might confuse him into stopping. I'm sure he won't want to listen to you whining as much as you don't want to listen to him. Just a thought. Have never tried it before though so I can't guarantee it will work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 jenjo23


    I know this sounds stupid but if you copy him it might make him stop. (Obviously when at home and not in the vets.:D)
    If you whine when he whines it might confuse him into stopping. I'm sure he won't want to listen to you whining as much as you don't want to listen to him. Just a thought. Have never tried it before though so I can't guarantee it will work.

    haha....I like this idea! Think I'll try it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Intothesea


    Hello there. It sounds as if you picked the cream
    of the litter! :) First-born (or first incidence of certain
    sex) pups tend to have stronger wills, and the result
    can be an apparently unresponsive dog (I speak from
    weary experience ;)) You don't say what age your pup
    is but generally simple basic and specific training would
    be a good idea as early as you can possibly do it
    (beyond 10 weeks isn't a bad time to start).

    To induce an independently-minded pup to pay heed
    to you, a little trick I'd use is to make every meal-time
    a learning experience. Feed by hand, a few pieces (if
    dry) of food at a time. You can teach a simple command
    (i.e. sit), and have the pup sit for you for every handful.
    This will set the tone for you. You can hold your hand
    closed above his head, and only lower it and open the
    hand (under his nose) when all paws are on the ground,
    and all eyes are on you. If the food is wet you can use
    a similar approach with portions of it placed into the bowl.

    Another useful practice is to walk around the house
    /garden handing out parts of the feed randomly
    calling his name. Food is given when he runs to you,
    looking interested. This is great training for adult
    'recall' ('come here'), and focuses the stronger pup
    mind on following/listening to you.

    For the whining I would turn my back directly to the
    pup. All dogs fear this (losing positive contact with the
    pack), and have no problems understanding this signal.

    The advice given already will help you throughout the
    interesting puppy months; never giving into whining,
    and training for the responses you want to see is
    the only way to have it as you want. Best of luck :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Sigma Force


    Also since you go to puppy classes talk to the person running it you are paying for the class I presume so do talk and ask their advice.

    Ham is not going to do any harm in tiny portions when training usually training tidbits are tiny just to encourage the dog. Owners could always take their own food like chicken or whatever if they aren't happy with the ham.


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