Seawater to be used as a fuel!!

vincenzo1975

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/10/tech/main3246430.shtml

An Erie cancer researcher has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies it would burn.

The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.

Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen - which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit - would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."

Professor_Fink

I seem to remember this story coming up a while ago. If I remember correctly, the radio frequency pulses were supplying so much power that it is hardly surprising it would burn. It was toted as a 'free energy'.

You can do something very similar with electrolysis: look, I run a current through water and the gas coming off it explodes!

kowloon

Professor_Fink wrote: »

I seem to remember this story coming up a while ago. If I remember correctly, the radio frequency pulses were supplying so much power that it is hardly surprising it would burn. It was toted as a 'free energy'.

You can do something very similar with electrolysis: look, I run a current through water and the gas coming off it explodes!

Once I see that phrase I tend to ignore the article.
Was there any figures on the return expected?

Professor_Fink

It was a couple of years ago when I heard about it. At the time I seem to recall that they had completely failed to take into account the fact that the radio source was using energy. You don't get any extra energy out, and you loose some by heating the environment.

Belfast

I do not think in will be a useful source of power.
It could be a useful way of supplying gas to a cutting torch without having to have compressed gas tanks.

He is also working to a cure for cancer. I think he cure for cancer may lead to other problems, but it is interesting work.

this video show him buring salt water
Burning Salt Water! 9.16 minutes
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5477534649147252443&q=burning+salt+water&ei=A35aSL2EFZD6jQLy6NDLBA&hl=en

PCN Profiles - John Kanzius - 45 min - Oct 14, 2007
PCN - Pennsylvania Cable Network - www.pcntv.com
John Kanzius is a cancer researcher in Erie, PA. As a former radio and TV engineer who suffered from leukemia, Mr. Kanzius developed a poten...all » John Kanzius is a cancer researcher in Erie, PA. As a former radio and TV engineer who suffered from leukemia, Mr. Kanzius developed a potential cancer therapy that uses radio waves to destroy cancer cells. The Kanzius Non-invasive Radio Wave Treatment is currently being tested at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center and the Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.«
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5456334852158610212&q=John+Kanzius&ei=ontaSLGsHY-8igLplNz6Dg&hl=en

Professor_Fink

Surely the fact that he has named the treatment after himself is a huge red flag.

Alun

Belfast wrote: »

It could be a useful way of supplying gas to a cutting torch without having to have compressed gas tanks.

Old news ... you can produce the gas using simple electrolysis. No need for all this radio wave stuff. See "Water torch" here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HHO_Gas

SOL

Burn with what? What reaction happens?

Alun

The water itself doesn't burn at all .. he's effectively electrolysing it into oxyhydrogen, hydrogen and oxygen in a 2:1 ratio and burning that. It does have some legitimate uses as the mixture burns at a very high temperature .. see the Wiki article I referenced above.

There are also loads of "how to run your car on water" scams out there in the Internet based on the same principle.