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Pietersen switch

  • 16-06-2008 9:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭


    Who thinks it should be outlawed? I myself think it's fair because he was switching when Styris was in his delivery stride. Also it's a lot more difficult to do than it looks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭swalsh


    if you have the ability to do it then its all ok in my book. As kensultz said its really difficult and as the rules are stated there is nothing wrong. There is always going to be a debate due to the bowler having to tell the umpire his intentions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭HonalD


    If you've got it...flaunt it :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭TrueDub


    Daniel Vettori said he'd no problem with it, but made a very interesting point about the umpire taking the switch into account when considering whether a ball is wide or not.

    If it's not outlawed (and I don't think it will be, but a lot of batsmen will try it & look incredibly foolish when they get out trying it), there will need to be some adjustment in the one-day wide regulations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    i'd kinda be against it....a bowler is not allowed suddenly bowl round the wicket and there is precedence in the fact that certain tactics are seen as against the spirit of the game... bodyline/fast leg theory for one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭swalsh


    The thing is though I just don't see it being against the spirit of the game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Personally I don't see a problem with it. For me it's no different to Ronnie O'Sullivan getting out of a snooker by playing a shot with his left hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭RustySpoon


    Think it is a great thing, it is still being talked about and it is things like this that keep the one day and test forms in the spotlight. Thought it was a great innings from him with the switch really spicing it up.

    Collingwood and Bell and Shah also contributed well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭swalsh


    Collingwood is proof just how difficult this shot is, his attempt nearly got him out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Mal Loye did it today against Durham. Hit a 6 with it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭simonrooneyzaga


    ... and tried it two balls later and was lucky not to be caught.. take the good with the bad - fair enough shot for me. I think the bowler not being able to switch sides mid-run up argument is rubbish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    ... and tried it two balls later and was lucky not to be caught.. take the good with the bad - fair enough shot for me. I think the bowler not being able to switch sides mid-run up argument is rubbish.
    why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭simonrooneyzaga


    1.) Non-striker batsman not being in the correct position

    2.) Possibility the sight-screen will need to be moved if the bowler comes around the wicket on a whim.

    3.) Umpires being certain in their mind before the delivery which side constitutues the leg side and off side - this is important for wide balls and lbw decisions. I umpire myself and i like to settle myself before an over and make it clear to myself the implications of the bowlers bowling angle.

    4.) It makes a mockery of the art of bowling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    i'd agree with all that. But imo your points three and four occur with a bats man changing batting side mid bowler stride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭simonrooneyzaga



    3.) Umpires being certain in their mind before the delivery which side constitutues the leg side and off side - this is important for wide balls and lbw decisions. I umpire myself and i like to settle myself before an over and make it clear to myself the implications of the bowlers bowling angle.

    4.) It makes a mockery of the art of bowling.

    I dont think 3 and 4 occur for batting also for the following reasons.

    3.) The fact that the batsman switches sides does not mean the legside and off side switch position as of yet. At the moment it doesnt but the MCC have to clarify this.

    4.) If anything, this shot enhances the art of batting, just as the reverse sweep did 8 or 9 years ago.


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