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Puppy killer update

  • 13-06-2008 1:29am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭


    Some of you may remember a thread in cool vids & pics & links about a video of an American soldier throwing a puppy over a cliff, just to update on that story.
    CNN wrote:
    Puppy-throwing Marine is removed from Corps

    * Story Highlights
    * Hawaii-based Lance Cpl. David Motari is being "processed for separation"
    * Motari was seen on video tossing a puppy off a cliff while on patrol in Iraq
    * Second Marine, who filmed the incident, was also disciplined

    From Mike Mount
    CNN Pentagon Producer

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A U.S. Marine videotaped throwing a puppy over a cliff while on patrol in Iraq has been kicked out of the Corps, and a second Marine involved has been disciplined, according to a statement released by the Marines.

    Lance Cpl. David Motari, based in Hawaii with the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, is being "processed for separation" and received non-judicial punishment, officials said in the statement Wednesday night. The Marine Corps would not specify what that punishment was because of privacy regulations.

    The statement said Motari received the punishment for his role in the "episode which generated international attention."

    The incident appeared on the Internet web site YouTube in March, sparking outrage from animal rights groups around the world.

    In the video, Motari is seen throwing the dog off a cliff as it yelps.

    A second Marine, San Diego-based Sgt. Crismarvin Banez Encarnacion, received non-judicial punishment as well.

    Janice Hagar, a spokeswoman for the Marines in San Diego, said Encarnacion shot the video.

    Marine officials at the Pentagon would not disclose the severity of the disciplinary action against Encarnacion, also because of privacy regulations.

    CNN did not receive a response from the Marine Corps in San Diego to questions about the case.

    The statement said the Marines conducted an investigation as soon as the YouTube video came to the attention of commanders.

    "The actions seen in the Internet video are contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine and will not be tolerated," according to the statement.

    On the video, Motari smiles as he is holding the puppy and then hurls the dog over a cliff. An unknown person operating the video cameras is heard laughing and another voice saying "that's mean, Motari."

    In a statement, the Humane Society of the United States applauded the actions.

    "The bad actors in this case have been dealt with by the Marine Corps, which rightly recognizes that harming animals is unacceptable conduct," said Dale Bartlett, the group's deputy manager for animal cruelty issues. "Now, the Department of Defense and the Congress must step up protection from cruelty for all animals under the law governing military conduct."


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    How many Iraqis has he killed though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    How many Iraqis has he killed though?

    That would be the $64,000 question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Great to hear. Good luck to him getting a job and returning to normal life after this, the amount of publicity surrounding it will ensure his name is well known for a while yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Rb wrote: »
    Great to hear. Good luck to him getting a job and returning to normal life after this, the amount of publicity surrounding it will ensure his name is well known for a while yet.

    A job at the pound?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Did you hear? The unreported action by the Marine in question was cause to mitigate the disciplinary action. When the Marine saw how distraught the puppy owner was, he tossed the owner after him. Now, that was truly thoughtful, reflecting the true spirit of the Corps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Gotta be a sick twisted individual to do something like that, perfect candidate to work in Burger King.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Gotta be a sick twisted individual to do something like that, perfect candidate to work in Burger King.

    Or, one would have thought, the U.S. Marine Corps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    davyjose wrote: »
    Or, one would have thought, the U.S. Marine Corps
    Well obviously not sick and twisted enough if they are kicking him out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Well obviously not sick and twisted enough if they are kicking him out.

    Yeah - good point. His murderous cruelty, not quite to the rigorous USMC standards :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,102 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    killing a human is grand like!! but dogs are a no no... :rolleyes: the world is a fooked up place allright


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    anto-t wrote: »
    killing a human is grand like!! but dogs are a no no... :rolleyes: the world is a fooked up place allright

    That is 100 percent correct. There are 6 billion humans after all.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Well obviously not sick and twisted enough if they are kicking him out.
    Not to worry! Bush will pardon him, like that bloke with the "Scooter" nick name, then probably give him a medal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    Not to worry! Bush will pardon him, like that bloke with the "Scooter" nick name, then probably give him a medal.

    "I hereby award you the medal of distinction for most fur coats made in the whole of the us armies history!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    anto-t wrote: »
    killing a human is grand like!! but dogs are a no no... :rolleyes: the world is a fooked up place allright

    I think it's the nature of the crime that has people shocked by this. It's not that the value of a puppy's life is higher than that of a human, it's the fact that a human can do something like this to something to small and harmless, something that (because it's a baby) requires protection.
    Would that guy have gotten the same kick out of throwing a fully grown dog off a cliff?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    "I hereby award you the medal of distinction for most fur coats made in the whole of the us armies history!"
    101 102 Iraqis spotted puppies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    To hell with all of the human losses and mistreatment, they're not important. How can they hurt a puppy?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    What CNN didn't bother to mention in their report, was that the puppy was suspected of licking terrorist hands, and therefore a sympathizer. Now what do you think of that puppy? Toss him, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Idiot. If he had shot it or bombed it's house he would have had no problem


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    death penalty for the bastard


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭nobodythere


    Kicking them out doesn't change the conditions that cause soldiers to have this mentality. It's a bit like stepping on roaches.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    but it means they're somebody else's problem now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,174 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Never showed the puppy dead on the vid though dead it....something might have broken it's fall,prob a big rock,but ya never know!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    obviously the trick then if yer an Iraqi is to dress like a puppy
    http://www.adiumxtras.com/images/pictures/butters_bear_dock_icons_13421161_thumb_1422.png



    the mind boggles tho, what sort of behaviour do people expect from Profesional KILLERS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Intothesea


    Lol Mahatma, thought the same. Behaviour like that is in perfect accordance
    with the ideal personality for an (American) army grunt, at any rate.

    Article relating psychopathic tendencies to killer abilities:
    https://notes.utk.edu/bio/greenberg.nsf/0/bd7eed04567bfe2b85256e3b002f29c1?OpenDocument

    :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    kmart6 wrote: »
    Never showed the puppy dead on the vid though dead it....something might have broken it's fall,prob a big rock,but ya never know!
    Ya never know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    I remember some people were saying it was fake at the time. He's one sick puppy though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭2-ShortDa5foot5


    Please stop joking about it. This is disgusting. He deserves to be put to death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Please stop joking about it. This is disgusting. He deserves to be put to death.
    His bark is worse than his bite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭Homer


    How many Iraqis has he killed though?

    It's a bit like Tescos.. Every little helps :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    :eek:
    I'd not actually heard anything of this before!
    I'd rather if he'd shot the dog as at least it would've been quicker and more humane.:(
    Can the military even punish him for this though, do they have regulations regarding animal cruelty? I would've thought it would need to be a civil case brought against him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    Don't puppies always land on their feet??? I'm sure he's fine....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    that'd be Cats yer thinkin of, dogs are not the most graceful of creatures in flight. howeve you can compensate with a few tricks, like use an Aerodynamic streamlined ariel transport device, preferably the type that has an opening at one end and is sealed at the other, you can increase the Puppys inertia by adding Balast to theBag vehicle, bricks are recomended due to their uniformality in nature


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    farohar wrote: »
    :eek:
    I'd rather if he'd shot the dog as at least it would've been quicker and more humane.:(
    I don't know, free falling would be much more exciting than exploding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't know, free falling would be much more exciting than exploding.

    Yeah, but it has the foreknowledge that it's going to die throughout the toss and plummet as opposed to a quick shot to the head. Then there's the possibility of it having hit outcrops en route, suffering injuries before death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    Please stop joking about it. This is disgusting. He deserves to be put to death.
    Go back to PETA. It's a fucking puppy....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Acid_Violet


    A truly horrible thing to do, wonder if he had any reason other than pure sadism. But it's still funny in a way to see him getting reprimanded for harming a dog when his typical professional actions of killing people would be condoned as 'brave' and 'patriotic'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Acid_Violet


    Ass Face wrote: »
    Go back to PETA. It's a fucking puppy....

    Yeah but that doesn't mean that it's alright to throw it off a cliff:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Yeah but that doesn't mean that it's alright to throw it off a cliff:confused:
    Of course, but still doesn't warrant silly comments like "he deserves to be put to death".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Acid_Violet


    Of course, but still doesn't warrant silly comments like "he deserves to be put to death".

    Agreed. Yet someone being so outraged that someone would make 'silly' comments is quite understandable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    Maybe the puppy had eaten his cigarettes? A la Alan Partridge?
    Michael: Wai-aye. Hey, I mind this one time, right. I was stationed out in Belize, right, and I had this little macaque monkey as a pet, right? And one day, I came back to my tent, right, and it’d eaten all my fags.

    [Alan laughs.]

    Michael: So I picked it up and I threw it into the sea.

    [Alan’s face falls.]
    Alan: You threw a monkey in the sea?

    Michael: Well, it had eaten all my fags, man. It was a big packet of two-hundred duty-frees, like.

    Alan: You threw a monkey in the sea? That’s awful. I mean, I was fishing for some sort of funny story. That’s just upsetting.

    Michael: Well, you know, I wasn’t thinking straight. I just, kind of, got the red mist in front of my eyes and I just grabbed the monkey and hurled it in the sea.

    Alan: Will you stop saying you threw your monkey in the sea? All I can see is a monkey spinning towards the water.

    Michael: Well, it didn’t go straight in the water. It bounced off a rock.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 MorrisORegan


    gerky wrote: »
    Some of you may remember a thread in cool vids & pics & links about a video of an American soldier throwing a puppy over a cliff, just to update on that story.

    maybe the puppy was hiding weapons of mass destruction.


    you never know.


    either way,its funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭MissHoneyBun


    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :(:(:(:(:(:(:(


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