Purchasing a Irish Reg car in Germany

Francob

The car is still registered in Ireland and has been in Germany for the last 6 months. If i purchase it in Germany and bring back into ireland will i be subject to any VAT or VRT ?

Also any heard of this website www.iloxx.de it is a escrow service website ?? Or dealt with them before.

Regards,
Francob

NinjaTruncs

if it's already registered in Ireland you don't have to pay any VRT

BnA

Franco

To answer your question, no you don't have to pay VRT or anything.

However, on another note.... this sounds like you answered an ad for a car that seems great value. The advertiser came back to you with a story telling you he emigrated 6 months ago or something like that, and he can't sell the car in Germany. You pay him, he arranges to ship it over...

If the above is true... run away.... very very fast. It's a common scam.

If not, sorry for wasting the last 20 seconds of your life. Sure, what were you doing anyway only feckin' around on the internet.

peasant

Francob wrote: »

escrow service

Don't know the company ...but "escrow service" sets alarm bells ringing.

Are you possibly entertainnig some scam? some deal where the car is supposedly to be shipped after you send your money to a third party?

If so ...DON'T !!

EDIT: BnA beat me to it

Ronanom

Jesus, I'd love to know what money is lost by dim wits to these scams. Come on like!

JoeySully

http://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-Avoid-Escrow-Scam-and-To-Pay-or-Be-paid-Safely_W0QQugidZ10000000003992204

its a escrow service endorsed by eBay but i would still be very cautious
id get flight over and drive it back if i were buying it.

Max_Damage

Does this car happen to be a Mazda 626? I remember seeing an Irish-reg. one for sale in Germany on ebay.de a good while back.

JHMEG

Sounds dodgy. Link?

jamesojnr

Francob wrote: »

The car is still registered in Ireland and has been in Germany for the last 6 months. If i purchase it in Germany and bring back into ireland will i be subject to any VAT or VRT ?

Also any heard of this website www.iloxx.de it is a escrow service website ?? Or dealt with them before.

Regards,
Francob

Was it a vlokswagon Passat that you were looking at

Francob

No, an Audi A3

jamesojnr

Francob wrote: »

The car is still registered in Ireland and has been in Germany for the last 6 months. If i purchase it in Germany and bring back into ireland will i be subject to any VAT or VRT ?

Also any heard of this website www.iloxx.de it is a escrow service website ?? Or dealt with them before.

Regards,
Francob

Ithink the same guy in rostock is trying to sell a vw passat 07 online.

Francob

Yes, he said he was in Rostock

He finished his degree in ireland and returned to his home land. The car is right hand drive which is uncomfortable for him to drive in germany !!!

Sound familiar

jamesojnr

Yes that sound like the one. Must be a scam going on here some where.

Francob

The Audi was posted on Carzone

I might blast them a email to inform them something is a miss

Did you manage to get a phone number out of him ?

Was his name Mathias Ilgner ?

jamesojnr

Thats the guy. No number. I would get on to carzone over that one alright,

craichoe

Nah, quite common,

I have an Irish reg car in the Netherlands, want to get a Dutch reg at some stage but tis silly registering it with the steering wheel on the wrong side.. would love to sell it this way but judging from the reactions here ill have to drive it back to cork !!

jamesojnr

Yes but the same guy with the same story for two diffrent cars seems a bit dodgey

Francob

Plus I asked him 3 times for his phone number and he would not furnish this !!!!

Francob

Jamesojnr ,

is this the passat :

Make:
Volkswagen
Model:
Passat


Engine:
1.9 Diesel


Bodytype:
Saloon


Transmission:
Manual


Price:
€12,600


Year:
2007


Colour:
Black


Mileage:
48,467 miles / 78,000 kilometers


Owners:
1


Doors:
4


Location:
Private Sale (Dublin)

<SNIP> e-mail link removed


Summary:
Alloys additional extra, Alloy Wheels, Electric Windows, Metallic Paint, Central Locking, Immobiliser, Multiple Air Bag, Passenger Air Bag, Remote Central Locking, Adjustable Steering Wheel, Air Conditioning, CD Player, Rear Headrests, Traction Control.

jamesojnr

Yes thats the one.

jamesojnr

He says he has sold the audi a3 it was his wifes car

Francob

see can you get his phone number

Padraig Mor

"Mathias", the former student in Dublin, is also selling a 530d (although he says it's a 535d) which - shock, horror - he also says is uncomfortable for him to drive in Rostock!

Mathias' car:
http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/5-Series/car/1091379/

Genuine ad with familiar photos:
http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/530/D-M/942756/


Doesn't say much for Carezone that they haven't removed the scam auction despite me telling them yesterday. Or the garage who couldn't even be bothered to say 'thanks' after I shot them an email to let them know......

JoeySully

spot the difference prize for anyone that can see it :P

NiSmO

This post has been deleted.

Francob

So that is 3 scams he is running

how many more is there

BMW scam:

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/...s/car/1091379/

VW Passat scam:

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Volkswagen/Passat/car/1091376/

Audi A3 scam:

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Audi/A3/car/1091371/

I emailed carzone also. Nothing back yet

yop

Hows about we all email him? CC "Big" Gerry Ryan while we are at it

Francob

Sounds like a plan , spam the scam

JoeySully

i did last night but no response yet

yop

I have 5 email addys, so time to put together an email?? I am sh1te at "nice" emails, so anyone?

Steve

yop wrote: »

I have 5 email addys, so time to put together an email?? I am sh1te at "nice" emails, so anyone?

Find an excuse to send him a picture, rename a large 2meg ish .dll as 'car_pic04.jpg' and attach it.
resend the mail from each address several times a day.

That'll annoy them.

LolaDub

I came across this on cbg with an a4 cabriolet and a porsche cayenne both low mileage, good condition, low price and both had pictures taken at sandymount car park. Seller couldn't provide a phone number or any contact details other than a bizarre email address. Couldn't provide any additional info on car and said it was already in storage ready to be shipped so i couldn't go to see it. Also suggested an escrow service at his shipping company but when i contacted them they said they didn't even provide that service.

Craichoe if you're selling a genuine car you should be able to provide serial and chassis numbers etc and the car should be available for people to see. You could always send it over here to a friend who could sell it onto a garage.

Traumadoc

All the best value in BMW X5 do not have telephone contacts either?
Am I right to be suspicious?

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/X5/car/1091086/

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/X5/car/1091633/

R.O.R

Traumadoc wrote: »

Am I right to be suspicious?

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/X5/car/1091086/

^^ Now that's just lazy. Comes in under the £25 a day London Congestion charge:rolleyes:

Even the photo's on that say "property of autotrader.co.uk"

Daputamadre69

This guy is a total creep. i emailed re a VW toureg on Carzone. Hilarious reading the above posts as he gave me the exact same story, did his masters in Dublin recently moved back to rosberg but found the RHD too uncomfortable.He also wanted me to enter into an escrow agrrement using Iloxx.de. i emailed Iloxx and they stated that they will do transfers between Austria and Germany. I think the cops need to be informed of Mathias Ilgner and scammin and also the pictures he is using are clearly other peoples cars and he is stupid enough not to cover up the No. plates. also his email address is @yahoo.ie which suggests he has an irish IP. Just my thoughts . Cheers

Traumadoc

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/247346.htm

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mercedes-Benz/G-Series/Armoured/963523/

Bilocation?

Padraig Mor

Sickening that Carzone is still listing these scams despite being informed....

LolaDub

When i came across one on cbg as soon as i informed they they did take it down. I think the scammer had an email like @spainmail.biz it was a fairly random name to it.

JoeySully

found another one

real add
http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Audi/A3/1.6-102/1060382/

fake add
http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Audi/A3/1.6-Ambition/1098259/

LolaDub

Shouldn't these scammers be prosecuted. I was scammed out of 800 euro last year and nothing ever happened. I think the websites should be monitoring the ads

Esel

How would anyone think the low prices could be for real?

bovis

Heres the same car scam again.

Same story - German guy (going by name of Christoper Friedrich) does Masters in Dublin, brings car back to Germany, umcomfortable to drive a RHD. Wants money sent via escrow to website iloxx.de

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Audi/A4/1.9-TDI/1125152/

Can I contact someone in carzone to tell them about this?

peasant

please see the "if it looks like a scam it is a scam" thread

By all means report the ad to carzone