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Alcohol Legislation - Age Limits?

  • 08-06-2008 10:13pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭


    Trying to find out some information on a small problem I've been having. Having been 18 for nearly a year now, Im having no problem getting served alcohol. Recently I've have been refused on the grounds that its "over 19s" or its "23s". Now no signs are displayed to indicate this is the cause. Can anyone fill me in on the legislation regarding this?


    Its been barmen that have said this to me, not bouncers. And I havent been intoxicated so there was no reason to refuse me.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Anything over 18 is at the discretion of the licensed premises. They usually have an increased age limit to weed out any potential underage gate crashers, other reasons would be down to having a more mature cliental. They could have an over 60yo age limit if they wanted. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭bluedolphin


    If there is no sign (has to be visible from entrance) then you are within your rights to claim discrimination under the Equality Act.

    If there is a sign, it's perfectly acceptable for the establishment to refuse entry provided that they implement the decision fairly and equally (ie if they have a sign saying over 28s and no pink socks it's fine as long as they stop everyone who's over 28 and everyone who's wearing pink socks). Provisions for this were included in the Intoxicating Liquor Act 2003 and the Equal Status Act 2000 (amended in the 2004 Act). Prior to the amendment in the Equal Status Act, it was illegal for a bouncer to refuse entry to anyone over the age of 18 but it was ok for a barman to refuse to serve you, afaik.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭flanum


    maybe nobody likes you full stop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    OP you were too locked get over it.

    ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Why don't you just ask an older boy/adult to buy some for you?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    If there is no sign (has to be visible from entrance) then you are within your rights to claim discrimination under the Equality Act.

    If there is a sign, it's perfectly acceptable for the establishment to refuse entry provided that they implement the decision fairly and equally (ie if they have a sign saying over 28s and no pink socks it's fine as long as they stop everyone who's over 28 and everyone who's wearing pink socks). Provisions for this were included in the Intoxicating Liquor Act 2003 and the Equal Status Act 2000 (amended in the 2004 Act). Prior to the amendment in the Equal Status Act, it was illegal for a bouncer to refuse entry to anyone over the age of 18 but it was ok for a barman to refuse to serve you, afaik.
    Dude, are you a law student?


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    nevf wrote: »
    Dude, are you a law student?
    cut-n-paste, but he's right! did you see the sign, (behind the coat rack!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Basically, you offer to buy something. The seller (barman/offlicense worker in this case) cann reject such an offer at will.

    - Source: Junior Cert Business Studies Book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    cut-n-paste, but he's right! did you see the sign, (behind the coat rack!)
    God bless the cut and Paste! Maybe an invisible sign?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Presumably you had id? It is illegal for someone aged 18 to 21 to be in a licensed premises after 9pm if they don't have id.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭MysticalSoul


    I think it is at the discretion of the barman, but on saying that, don't think they can make up crazy rules on a whim, just cos they feel like it.

    I got asked for ID a few months ago, the bouncer didn't believe that I was 30 at the time. Luckily I had my passport with me, as needed it for something earlier that day :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Yep, if there's a sign they can do what they want.


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