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Should I be earning more?

  • 06-06-2008 1:46pm
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    You would get more working in Tesco (You really would), You should be on minimum 35k imho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Baby4


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 michael.oleary


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    What age is the Graduate? How many years experience has s/he got in comparision to you? I'm assuming that s/he has none considering s/he is a graduate. I would bring it up with my boss, but make sure you have your facts straight, i.e. are you sure the grad is telling the truth and not just trying to make you jealous. Take a look at CPL.ie for salary guides, and don't be afraid to sell yourself, you probably do alot more than your boss realizes. Failing that get those last two exams and do a runner as long as they haven't made you sign anything to keep you there (i'm assuming that they are paying for the exams)

    Take a look at this link, you know yourself what your position is called.

    http://www.cpl.ie/pdf/cr_salaryguide.pdf

    Good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Baby4


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    Baby4 wrote: »
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    I'm going into third year CPA, based on my own salary.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭angelfire9


    You are definitely undervalued! DEFINITELY! I know IATI grads on 28k+


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    OP, check the salary survey linked above. From my old days working in
    recruitment I know that salaries in accountancy can vary greatly depending
    on whether you are working in practice or in industry and then on whether
    your are fully qualified or only part-qualified (PQ).

    Accountancy salaries in practice for part-qualified positions have
    historically been a lot lower than one might have thought. A PQ accountant
    in practice (with or without a degree) is probably earning less than most
    graduates - I think it dates back to the days when it was seen as a "professional
    apprenticeship" type role. A PQ accountant in industry or one of the the
    Big 4 will earn more. I was shocked when I first salaries for PQ accountants -
    especially for jobs based in Dublin with the associated cost of living.

    Working/training in practice can be seen as a benefit as you get a broader
    more varied experience than one might getting if they trained in industry
    and specialised in one specific accountancy department. Hopefully future
    earnings once qualified offset the poor level of pay at entry level in
    practice.

    Comparing PQ level entry roles with roles in payroll, credit control, etc
    is comparing apples and oranges. Once qualified an accountant should
    earn a lot more - on average, again check salary surveys.

    With regards to the 'ad-hoc' duties, it does sound like the employer is
    taking the mick - but you'll find this behaviour in small Irish companies
    which tend to be more hands-on than say a large US multinational.
    Maybe tell your boss you're busy working on a clients tax accounts but
    if giving his office a hoover is more important ............
    Be busy on proper work, profitable work, for the company and the boss will
    find it harder to drag you away for menial tasks. You get the idea? ;)


    It also sounds that your negotiations at the last salary review didn't go as
    well as you liked. If you're 100% sure the new starter is earning much
    more than you and you are again 100% sure you are both equally qualified
    (educational, professional qualifications and experience all
    taken into account) then confront your employer. Arm yourself with
    what information from salary surveys, job adverts and other sources
    firts - do not mention the salary the recent hire is on as it'll just make
    you sound petty and jealous. Calmly and clearly tell your employer
    you are struggling on the current salary and state the reasons why you are
    feeling underpaid and ask if they can address the issue.
    salary for you is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    'tidying his office' - What do you expect him to do - get a cleaner in and pay top dollar? :D

    You've got great experience in the office you're in. But, it's up to you to move to get the best price for your work. A small practice might take the view that they can get trainees in for cheap and train them up and keep them for a few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    call a recruitement agency and leave.

    I did- extra 10K when I was only part two AITI experience.- and I left a big 4!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Accountant


    your salary should match the technical level of your work. At first glance i would say you are underpaid, but are you preparing accounts beyond trial balance, do you manage your own clients, can you prepare a full audit file. If yes to all of the above it's time to move.
    Also, how many years exp have you??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Baby4


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Accountant


    It's time to move then....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Baby4


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    sweet jesus you are being shafted.
    Admin jobs in Dublin pay more than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Accountant


    what county are you in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Baby4


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    this type of thing happens in small practices, same was happening to my brother, to be fair you have got your experience which is worth a lot, move on, be confident in your ability and get paid what you deseve


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    Move on!!!!

    Your Boss is taking the P*ss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 novocaine1


    yeah you're bein shafted for sure - move on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭kluivert


    I loved the practice I was working in but the wages where crap so I had to move.

    Best thing I ever done, it meant that I could stop working part time to make up the earns.


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