Krav Maga

April Raine

Is the one day course any good? I got an email offering one for 395 euro with a money back guarantee

SorGan

if its kmireland then its a two day course.
km short courses are generally not stand alone, but part of the bigger system.
you will need to do lots more, so the real question should be is the cost worth the hours and quality of training.
there are some other km options around too.

FiannaGym.com

Absolutely a complete waste of time and money in my humble opinion.

I mean, think of how much training you'd get in a good boxing, thai boxing or MMA club for that.

Quick fixes don't exist in martial arts, unless its pre 1993 and your learning BJJ.

haha

Peace

Roper

April Raine wrote: »

Is the one day course any good? I got an email offering one for 395 euro with a money back guarantee

You'd train for 6-8 months for the same money. Unless you light your cuban cigars with €50 notes while sipping your 30 year old cognac, don't bother.

April Raine

SorGan wrote: »

if its kmireland then its a two day course.

Could be, deleted the email by mistake:o

April Raine

FiannaGym.com wrote: »

Quick fixes don't exist in martial arts, unless its pre 1993 and your learning BJJ.

I don't understand that?

April Raine

SorGan wrote: »

there are some other km options around too.

Any details? Thanks

Charlie3dan

April Raine wrote: »

I don't understand that?

I'll let Fianna give his own explanation but this video may also be of assistance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hAbOMEn25o

April Raine

Charlie3dan wrote: »

I'll let Fianna give his own explanation but this video may also be of assistance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hAbOMEn25o

;)

SorGan

April Raine wrote: »

Any details? Thanks

dublin?
http://www.kravmaga.ie/
and
http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/20/14919120.html
chap called Robert Bednarski, runs regular classes.

Baggio...

April Raine wrote: »

I don't understand that?

It does not really a matter how good the course is or isn't. Do you think that 2 days training is sufficient to deal with a multiple opponents or an armed threat?

There are absolutely no guarantees with any training, there are only increases in probabilities. And in my opinion this takes a hell of a lot longer than a weekend.

However, what have you got to loose? It's a money back guarantee... So if you're not satisfied you can always get your cash back.

The other thing that should be pointed out, most of the guys here that train in KM advocate a consistent training regime, and state that any introductory course should always be followed up with post weekly classes.

O'Leprosy

April Raine wrote: »

Is the one day course any good? I got an email offering one for 395 euro with a money back guarantee

€395 for a day's course :eek: Jayus, these ' Krap' Maga fellas know how to rip people off

As Fianna says " Quick fixes don't exist in martial arts ". Better to join an MMA club and learn something that has been proven to work against fully resistant opponents in the UFC, Cage Rage, Ring of Truth etc than some allegedly deadly crap practiced against fully compliant 'attackers'.

The whole Krap Maga thing reminds me when I was a young fella and football magazines ,teenage comics etc used to carry Charles Atlas ads with - YOU TOO can have a BODY like MINE - ALL in JUST 6 WEEKS !!! ALL for JUST £xx !!!

Baggio...

O'Leprosy wrote: »

€395 for a day's course :eek: Jayus, these ' Krap' Maga fellas know how to rip people off

Very over priced imho...

Nothingcompares

At the end of the day they can charge what they like. People aren't forced to pay for them. If they can afford to pay it, well, they can afford to pay it no harm done. I'd take a couple of months of regular training over a weekend course 100 times out of a 100 but each to their own. They're supplying a service so it's difficult to put a price on it. Some bloke will come out and fix your leaky tap for 5o euro, another will charge you 200.

Khannie

FiannaGym.com wrote: »

I mean, think of how much training you'd get in a good boxing, thai boxing or MMA club for that.

Agree with this big time. Fairly shocked at the price. You could get 6 months training in my club for that.

challengemaster

You'd get a years training in either of my clubs for that :eek:

Baggio...

Leaving style behind for a mo'.... and lets say you were into private lessons - You'd get a shedload of privates for that price, and with a good coach. CQC, Boxing, MT, KM, MMA, whatever ya' wanted...

Odysseus

OP its a marketing thing I imagine the e-mail offered you the course at haf price check out the website the is the course price then there are always discounts so you never pay that price.

If you go ahead and do the course It needs to be practiced as you need to follow up on it. Personally as someone who has been at loads of the weekends over a number of years, I would suggest that you go for the 12 week intro first. I just reckon people learn more over the loner time frame.

PM if you would like more info, I'm not training there at the moment due to other training committments, but if you follow up the training I recommend KM. I was with KM Ireland for the best part of 5 years. Hope this helps.

April Raine

This is the latest email. I may have made a mistake about the times last time as I deleted the email by mistake. I am not pushing KM, but I see it is in Kilkenny in Sept which may be of interest to those outside Dublin . I see PC is a psychotherapist too, what is the connection to KM?
MODS Please delete if this is seen as advertising

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Dear april

Thank you for your interest in our course.
As previously mentioned you can take our course as either a 12 week course running for 12 weeks one evening a week or you can make a weekend of it, with us teaching you our accelerated defence programme in two full days from 9.30-5.30 both days.
During this course you will be learn how to defend yourself from every imaginable kind of street assault but also how to handle fear, manage aggression in others and understand the underlying psychological principals of fear and aggression which could save your life,
As a qualified psychotherapist and Krav Maga instructor with Krav Maga Worldwide ( WWW.KravMagaIreland) I am uniquely qualified to assist you with both the psychical and mental side of personal safety.
If you have any queries please call me anytime on 087 239 0398 or send a me a mail at [email]PCumiskey at KravMagaIreland.com[/email]

Our course schedule is below

Dublin 2 Day June 21/22 Just a few places left.
Limerick 12 Week June 14/15
Dublin 12 Week July 26/24
Kilkenny 2 Day course September 27/28

The full course fee is €395 however is a 50% discount when you book in the next few days. So the course fee is just €195 when you book now with a deposit of just €25.
To confirm your place you must simply send amailto PCumiskey@KravMagaIreland.com or call me on 087 239 03 98

Stay Safe

Patrick
PS Make sure to send your deposit straightaway to ensure your avail of our early booking discount.

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Odysseus

As I stated above the I trained there for a number of years first time I heard of the person describing themselves as a psychotherapist though. I'm away from there for over a year now so maybe he qulified as one. He had a hugh interest in psychology and was very big into NLP. To be fair to the person involved he is quite good at the psychological side of things. I just feel very strongly about who has the right to call themselves a psychotherapist.

I'm a psychotherapist too April it took me five years to qualify and to answer your question in a small way I think they are connected. There is the psychology of aggression, the impact of violence on individuals. I used to be part of a HSE that dealt with the psychological impact of assualts on health care workers. In some cases people may have to overcome hugh anxieties to in order to defend themselves even within a role play.

Edit: To be fair April would you mind editing the persons address from the post, I know personally I would not like it if someone posted my address on here.

ziodro

check:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cTseilDcR2Y
Public classes Monday and Wednesday @ 20.00
Thats regular training, for more advanced sparings.

Mark Hamill

ziodro wrote: »

check:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cTseilDcR2Y
Public classes Monday and Wednesday @ 20.00
Thats regular training, for more advanced sparings.

Any vids of advanced sparring?

cardav

Hi April,

I've bee training in KM in Cork for a little over a year and absolutely love it. I did not do a beginners course but attended a couple of classes to see would I like it. Classes cost €10 per class (I think fairly reasonable for 1.5h class). A major part of the training focuses on mental and psychological development regarding stress, fear, aggression, intimidation etc.

It would be worth checking out www.kravmaga.ie. The instructor and club is a member of the IKMF or International Krav Maga Federation. He also runs beginners courses that I think are about €150.