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Poa??

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  • 04-06-2008 6:56pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 858 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I've been looking at getting a new (used) car, and when I'm checking some prices, it says POA. I figure this means 'Price on Agreement' meaning that it's negotiable.

    Am I right?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 948 ✭✭✭DJ Hafez


    helios wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I've been looking at getting a new (used) car, and when I'm checking some prices, it says POA. I figure this means 'Price on Agreement' meaning that it's negotiable.

    Am I right?

    Price On Application

    Basically it means - ring them to find out. Sometimes they do it so they will see how much you are willing to pay. Others do it so they can talk to the prospective buyers to tell them more about the car and to try and push it themselves


  • Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Flyer1


    Can often stand for Price on Application.

    Hmm you beat me to it DJ !


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Price offers available.

    NAh it's price on application. I'm just being awkward:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I hate that crap and always skip straight by cars with thaton it. Most of the time I set the minimum price inthe search to €1 to filter them out altogether.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    I gotta tell you, nothing makes me ignore an ad quicker than POA or a lack of photos.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭tdc


    pay on arrival :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    AudiChris wrote: »
    I gotta tell you, nothing makes me ignore an ad quicker than POA or a lack of photos.

    Brilliant. My must show that to my colleague. We were debating whether to put poa on some of the cars inside, and i was telling her to put prices because it just turns people off. I won in the end, must show her this:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    AudiChris wrote: »
    I gotta tell you, nothing makes me ignore an ad quicker than POA or a lack of photos.
    +1


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Woodgate wrote: »
    +1

    Brilliant, i'll have more to show ha:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    +2


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Loevly, the more the merry :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    no need to clap EVERY post, Limerick-man :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    peasant wrote: »
    no need to clap EVERY post, Limerick-man :D

    Haha makes me laugh. As i was writing it i was thinking to myself it was getting a bit boring, that was the last planned *clap*. Lol cheers for the smile :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Brilliant. My must show that to my colleague. We were debating whether to put poa on some of the cars inside, and i was telling her to put prices because it just turns people off. I won in the end, must show her this:D
    Your colleague doesn't have a bright future in car sales.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    JHMEG wrote: »
    Your colleague doesn't have a bright future in car sales.

    Ah no, to be fair now there is some method to her madness. I wouldn't put it down. It would entice customers to ring, and then if we said the price as it was too high, could bargain a bit etc., then again, gettin them to ring is the thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    My thoughts would be POA should only apply to something that has a very high value or is very specialist, where it's completely OK for the seller to qualify the buyer before engaging in discussions/negotiation with them.


    Three examples:
    -I'm into guitars, and in guitar magazines you'll often get lists of used guitars for sale by "vintage & classic" shops. The vast majority will have prices against them, and then the '57 Strat in mint condition and a limited edition colour is POA.

    -I've recently been shopping for rings and you'll see an array of rings and rocks of various values, the price will go up, and up, and then "disappear" as they become POA.

    -There's some seriously expensive clothes and shoes out there, but even if a shoe is made by the coolest designer of the moment and is encrusted in diamonds and very few people can afford it, the retail price will still be published in the magazine that features the shoes. It'll probably be in the headline.


    The way I think it works is that, if the price is the important thing (such as bling clothes/shoes/jewellery rather than more simple jewellery such as an engagement or eternity ring), there's no problem printing price - it's part of the reason people want it in the first place.
    I believe this would also apply to luxury/aspirational goods such as prestige cars.

    POA is for items that obey the "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" philosophy to a certain extent, but are for someone who cares more about value of the good than the price.
    In this category, I wouldn't include a Ferrari or Aston unless it was a proper classic car.
    I would include hand-made one-offs of artisan quality, that people buy for the pleasure of owning, in the POA category - this includes custom made guitars and custom made cars.

    Take it a step further and you've invitation only situations, like the Enzo. Publish the price or not, you won't get one unless Ferrari let you have one.


    You should give prices where you want to reel people in, to ask them to buy or at least make an offer (legally - an invitation to treat).
    You should say POA where you want to control the type and number of people who are allowed to view/try/buy a product.


    If you're in car sales, put the price in the most visible place & in the most legible font you can. Make it easy to read, easy to ask - offer alternatives for payment and funding!!
    IMHO POA has no place in a car showroom.
    Des Cullen can use POA, but they don't really have a "showroom" anyway.... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭WHITE_P


    AudiChris wrote: »
    I gotta tell you, nothing makes me ignore an ad quicker than POA or a lack of photos.

    +1, really p!sses me off, kind of snobbery to my mind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    AudiChris wrote: »
    My thoughts would ... don't really have a "showroom" anyway.... :p

    I wouldn't put prices of thing in excess of 40k ish. I'd put prices on anything above that if it was the cheapest of it's kind etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    Ah no, to be fair now there is some method to her madness. I wouldn't put it down. It would entice customers to ring, and then if we said the price as it was too high, could bargain a bit etc., then again, gettin them to ring is the thing.

    It wouldn't entice people at all, that's the point we are all making. If there's a price given, be it high or low, the customer/potential customer can decide if the want to pursue things. If there are 50 POA's would you expect someone to ring everyone and go through all the rigmarole each time just to find out the price. Also Irish people feel as if they are being ensnared when they have to call and ask, some places look for details, numbers, etc.. when all you want is the price. As I said earlier, I dont even look at POA's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Won't bother looking at POAs at all.

    Anytime I did..it's either really good or really bad looking.
    If the latter I don't want it. If the former than I reckon it will be too expensive so why bother ringing.


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