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Differentiation from first principals.

  • 01-06-2008 9:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭


    I'm doing ordinary level....our teacher taught us this using a different formula.....

    something like
    a = small increase in x
    b = small increase in y

    anyone else use this method? If so can someone please post an example?

    Thanks


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭MaltEagle


    No, that method seems diffucult. Why not use Delta X?


    Let y = question asked.

    Replace y+delta y (for Y) and x+delta x (for X)

    Multiply out the brackets (like Algebra)

    Keep going as far as you can

    You should get the differenciation of the sum.

    Delta is in the shape of a triangle.

    Hope this helps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    of just use the formula - couldn't be simpler!!

    y = f(x)

    f '(x) = the limit of:
    f(x+h)-f(x)
    h

    as h tends to zero. Usually you just manipulate it a tiny bit to get it out. At ordinary level it shouldn't be that hard. Example

    f(x) = 2(x)squared
    f(x+h) = 2(x+h)squared
    f(x+h) = 2[(x)squared + 2xh + (h)squared]
    f(x+h) - f(x) = 2(x)squared + 4xh + 2(h)squared - 2(x)squared
    f(x+h) - f(x) = 4xh + 2(h)squared
    then divide by h
    f(x+h) - f(x) =4x +2h
    h
    but h=0
    f '(x) = 4x

    http://skoool.ie/skoool/examcentre_sc.asp?id=716


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I found it much easier to do these once I understood what was actually going on:
    Essentially, you're trying to find the slope of a tangent to a curve on your graph. Now, you'll probably know the slope formula already from co-ordinate geometry:
    y2-y1
    x2-x1

    Except the problems is, of course, that a tangent only touches the curve once, so you only have one point.
    What you have to do is add H to that point (H is a tiny addition to f(x), so small that it doesn't matter). Then you have two points and can find your slope.

    So think of it like this:
    y1 = f(x)
    y2= f(x+h)
    x1= x
    x2 = (x+h)

    Therefore your slope formula is going to be
    f(x+h) - f(x)
    (x+h)- x

    Let's take an example function:
    Differentiate x² + 6x - 2
    Firstly, check your answer using rule - your derivative is going to be 2x + 6.

    Then go through the slope formula, cancelling the equation down until you are left with that answer:

    ((x+h)² + 6(x+h) - 2) - (x² + 6x - 2)
    x + h - x

    Don't forget to change the signs in the second bracket since it's -

    x² + h² +2xh + 6x + 6h - 2 - x² - 6x + 2
    x + h - x

    Now you can start cancelling. + 6x will cancel with -6x, + 2 with - 2, and x² with - x², and on the bottom line x cancels with -x leaving you with just h:

    h² + 2xh +6h
    h

    Now you divide h into everything above the line,
    h² / h = h,
    2xh / h = 2x
    6h / h = 6

    You're left with:
    h + 2x + 6

    Now the limit, to get rid of the last h:

    lim h -> 0 = 2x + 6

    Once you get it into your head that you're just using the slope formula with full expressions instead of numbers the whole thing is ridiculously easy to remember.
    N.B - DO NOT FORGET THE LIMIT.
    You will lose marks specifically for not mentioning the limit at the end (lim h -> 0)

    I know it looks confusing, but trust me it's very easy to remember it once you remember to use the slope formula :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭SmashingPilot


    turgon wrote: »
    of just use the formula - couldn't be simpler!!

    y = f(x)

    f '(x) = the limit of:
    f(x+h)-f(x)
    h

    as h tends to zero. Usually you just manipulate it a tiny bit to get it out. At ordinary level it shouldn't be that hard. Example

    f(x) = 2(x)squared
    f(x+h) = 2(x+h)squared
    f(x+h) = 2[(x)squared + 2xh + (h)squared]
    f(x+h) - f(x) = 2(x)squared + 4xh + 2(h)squared - 2(x)squared
    f(x+h) - f(x) = 4xh + 2(h)squared
    then divide by h
    f(x+h) - f(x) =4x +2h
    h
    but h=0
    f '(x) = 4x

    http://skoool.ie/skoool/examcentre_sc.asp?id=716

    +1 for this. Its the easiest way to remember, I find. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Diarmsquid


    Here's y = cosx from first principals.
    I typed it out in the Leaving Cert quiz tread, so I said I might as well post it here too. Tricky parts are in bold.

    f(x) = cosx, let h = a small change in x
    f(x+h) = cos(x+h)

    dy/dx = lim(h -> 0) ( f(x + h) - f(x) ) / h


    f(x+h) - f(x) = cos(x + h) - cos(x)

    cosA - cosB = -2sin((A + B) / 2).sin((A - B) / 2)

    f(x+h) - f(x) = -2sin(( x + h + x ) / 2).sin(( x + h - x ) / 2)

    f(x+h) - f(x) = -2sin(( 2x + h ) / 2).sin( h / 2)

    f(x+h) - f(x) / h = -2sin(( 2x + h) / 2).sin( h / 2) / h

    (multiply above an below by 1/2)

    f(x+h) - f(x) / h = -2sin(( 2x + h) / 2).( sin( h / 2) / (h/2) ). (1/2)

    lim (h -> 0)f(x+h) - f(x) / h = -2sin(( 2x + h) / 2).( sin( h / 2) / (h/2) ). (1/2)

    (sinx/x = 1)

    =-2sin(2x/2).1.(1/2)

    = -sinx


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