Being a manager

Topmanager

Just wondering what is the pay for being a store manager??
What hours would you be doing a week and what responsibility would you have?
What store would be the best Tesco, Dunnes stores e.tc???
When i am finished my leaving cert i am going to do a level 7 Business Management Course.When this course is finished would i be able to go into a store managers job straight away????

ibh

I think aldi do a really good manager scheme. Good pay and a company car for about 45hrs a week working.

Don't know if there is a 3rd level qualification required. Probably some form of 3rd level needed.

Eoin

I genuinely don't see how someone can be a good manager pretty much straight out of school, without having some experience in a working environment.

RedXIV

TRUST ME, tesco will NOT let you straight into a manager position without doing your time on the floor.

Eoin

RedXIV wrote: »

TRUST ME, tesco will NOT let you straight into a manager position without doing your time on the floor.

Dead right as well.

Doctor DooM

I worked as a retail manager in two distinct fields and both of them made me pound the floors for a good while- and they were right too.

RedXIV

eoin_s wrote: »

I genuinely don't see how someone can be a good manager pretty much straight out of school, without having some experience in a working environment.

+1, you can't, simple as.

Topanager wrote:

Just wondering what is the pay for being a store manager??
What hours would you be doing a week and what responsibility would you have?
What store would be the best Tesco, Dunnes stores e.tc???
When i am finished my leaving cert i am going to do a level 7 Business Management Course.When this course is finished would i be able to go into a store managers job straight away????

You'd be better off going straight to work for one of these and enroll in their managment schemes within the company. your business managament course will stand to you of course but you'll climb the ladder quicker, working in the actual company. I only worked for tesco now so i can only say their policies but you're talking about 4 or 5 years pure effort to get a decent manager position. and thats if you're doing well

helimachoptor

RedXIV wrote: »

TRUST ME, tesco will NOT let you straight into a manager position without doing your time on the floor.

+1

Op I worked in Tesco for 7 years from 15-22. Many Trainee managers came and went in that time. Most left because they were worked to the bone doing 80-90 hours a week and getting crap money and not seeing a sign of a promotion.

Dunnes, the Gf sister works there use to be full time but realised there was no future in it and went back to college but working part time. She works every friday saturday and sunday night needs to book the weekend off months in advance, the money is ok but the working environment is utterly crap.

I'll add in thats one of the GF's friends is a Lidl store manager, she's in work at 6am leaves at 6pm most days 6 days a week though I know they've been trying to get her to stick to the 48 hour a week contract as they got worried with how much she was working!!

Good pay I think she made 60k in her first year, she'll be an area manager by the end of the year but again really long hours, great pay + company car but hard work.

ScouseMouse

ibh wrote: »

I think aldi do a really good manager scheme. Good pay and a company car for about 45hrs a week working.

Don't know if there is a 3rd level qualification required. Probably some form of 3rd level needed.

Company cars are for district managers. Store managers dont get one.

Topmanager

Dunnes stores

superscouse wrote: »

Company cars are for district managers. Store managers dont get one.

How do you become a district manager.Do you have to be store manager for a good while to become a district manager.What responsibilities would you have??What is the pay like and what benefits in kind are there????

wmpdd3

Dunnes stores

When choosing a company to work for as a manager there are a few more factors to consider such as what KPIs are involved, such as staff turn over, pay to sales ratio and waste.

What the targets are and what percentage of store's meet these KPI.

Looking at how customers treat the stock in Aldi etc I wouldn't like to be managing their waste.

steo123

48 hours??ats ridiculous !!!

Topmanager

Topmanager wrote: »

How do you become a district manager.Do you have to be store manager for a good while to become a district manager.What responsibilities would you have??

You would need to be a store manager for a very very long time. And a big earner for each store that your in as well.

Topmanager

Dunnes stores

wmpdd3 wrote: »

When choosing a company to work for as a manager there are a few more factors to consider such as what KPIs are involved, such as staff turn over, pay to sales ratio and waste.

What the targets are and what percentage of store's meet these KPI.

Looking at how customers treat the stock in Aldi etc I wouldn't like to be managing their waste.

Can you explain what KPI's stands for?????
How long would it take to become a non-food/grocery section manager in Tesco...
What is the pay like for a section manager???

Eoin

A KPI is a Key Performance Indicator - i.e. the things you will be measured on.

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Experience is definately a must. Although, you can be taken on as a trainee manager in a lot of companies. You don't have to do a managment course either. Aldi do not require you to have a high level education, they are looking for hard workers, people that stand out really. Aldi have it right, education is not important, attitude is.

I guess it would be hard work, I would love to work at low or mid level managment but it's not the best time right now to look for that kind of work.

I think when you come out of college things will be somewhat differant and there will be more jobs out there. Goodluck with your studies.

wmpdd3

Dunnes stores

Some of the guys I work with have made it from the shop floor to manager in under 2 years. There is an in store training program in most companies. I came from another managers job into non food but I'm the exception, most managers have come from shop floor.
I guess pay for a section manager is about €34,000 +
The section mangers job is very similar no matter what section you work in, you own section is only a small part of your day.

Again it is really what KPIs your company are looking for. If your contract says a 45hr week but you don't have enough payroll to run your department, you won't be going home until it's right!!

If your waste budget is low as sales are low you will be under pressure to deliver.

Trust me, know what KPI's the company will expect this will decide if you can stick at the job.

doolox

Know and adhere to these even though you have little or no control over the causes that may affect them and bring them down.
You will be completely at the mercy of your staff and customers.
If you get the balance wrong and not be on the floor some of the time, stuff will get broken, mistakes will be made and customers will be pissed off and shop elsewhere.
If you spend too little time at meetings, paperwork etc and too much time on the floor policy issues will be neglected, important regulatory and administrative obligations will be missed out and you will get roasted by your boss for it.
Crap from the bottom and crap from the top.
Welcome to the world of middle managment.
If, however, you can stick it for a few years on a path to the top it can be worth it. This is why many middle managers who fail to reach the top get burned out from exhaustion and stress in their job and get made redundant, sacked or leave.
The winners get the top positions but must have the energy and drive to fight off their competitors, internal and external, in órder to stay there.
The savage irony is, although management may have higher pay and more "big boys toys" than the rest of us they have little time in which to enjoy them.

Topmanager

Dunnes stores

Does anyone know anything about the Tesco Options programme?

What is it like???

How long is the course???

What is the entry level???

RedXIV

Topmanager wrote: »

Does anyone know anything about the Tesco Options programme?

What is it like???

How long is the course???

What is the entry level???

Again, depends on a few things. Generally, in my experience anyway, it seems to take about a year and you get given a practice run at being a manager on quieter days (usually sundays, no deliveries) and you get feedback on how you do. after you've passed a series of requirements, you get offloaded to another store usually as a manager.

Entry level, as always is after doing your time on the floor. but you can apply as soon as you get in

Topmanager

Dunnes stores

Has anyone done the options programme with Tesco???

Is it done in the store you work or is up in head office in Dublin ???

What sort topices do they cover???

Topmanager

Dunnes stores

Topmanager wrote: »

Has anyone done the options programme with Tesco???

Is it done in the store you work or is up in head office in Dublin ???

What sort topices do they cover???

Anybody do the options programme ????
What do people think of the options programme???

wmpdd3

Dunnes stores

Options is done in store.I think it lasts for about 4-6 months. You are taken once a week by the manager of another section, they give you the basic training for that section and you work in it for the day. Once a week you also do duty management where you and another manager manage the store.

You also complete all the HR and law training for a manger. At the end of your training a manager from another store will walk the store with you and test your knowledge. If successful you will then sign off.
You are now qualified to apply for any section manager jobs that arise within the company.
You will still be interviewed and may not be taken on as a section manager.

Topmanager

Dunnes stores

wmpdd3 wrote: »

Options is done in store.I think it lasts for about 4-6 months. You are taken once a week by the manager of another section, they give you the basic training for that section and you work in it for the day. Once a week you also do duty management where you and another manager manage the store.

You also complete all the HR and law training for a manger. At the end of your training a manager from another store will walk the store with you and test your knowledge. If successful you will then sign off.
You are now qualified to apply for any section manager jobs that arise within the company.
You will still be interviewed and may not be taken on as a section manager.

Its sounds like you work for Tesco???
Did you do the options programme???
Is so how did you find it????

wmpdd3

Dunnes stores

No I didn't do options I was a manager with a few other companies so I came in as a manager to Tesco.

All the managers I work with did the program, they all started on the shop floor.

Most store do options. As soon as your competant in you own department you can do it. Some stores are not doing it at the moment. Your best bet is a bigger store such as an extra.

Topmanager

Dunnes stores

wmpdd3 wrote: »

No I didn't do options I was a manager with a few other companies so I came in as a manager to Tesco.

All the managers I work with did the program, they all started on the shop floor.

Most store do options. As soon as your competant in you own department you can do it. Some stores are not doing it at the moment. Your best bet is a bigger store such as an extra.

Thanks wmpdd3

The options programme sounds very interesting and sounds right for me...

BaconZombie

From sobebody who used to use in the FMCG sector {in a IT role} ALL Dunnes stores manager are ********* *******.

Topmanager

Dunnes stores

wmpdd3 wrote: »

I came from another managers job into non food but I'm the exception, most managers have come from shop floor.

Just after looking through the posts....

What is non food like ????

Oasis44

helimachoptor wrote: »

+1
I'll add in thats one of the GF's friends is a Lidl store manager, she's in work at 6am leaves at 6pm most days 6 days a week though I know they've been trying to get her to stick to the 48 hour a week contract as they got worried with how much she was working!!

Seriously doubt that - Lidl and to a lesser extent Aldi want their managers to work a MINIMUM of 48 hours and realistically managers in these companies would do 50-60 with no overtime. I know this for a fact as one my mates is a manager in Aldi and I went through 3 interviews for Lidl's district manager role. When the regional manager said I could be doing 6am - 10pm days all the time and I would need to sign out of the working time directive I thanked him for his time and walked. Nazi's they are:mad:

Cj70

Dunnes stores

Topmanager wrote: »

Does anyone know anything about the Tesco Options programme?

What is it like???

How long is the course???

What is the entry level???

Can someone whos done the options programme give us an idea of what it involves. is there much presentation work involved in the training? i heard someone talking about preparing a flip chart... maybe i took it up wrong!

Slippin Jimmy

Topmanager wrote: »

Just wondering what is the pay for being a store manager??
What hours would you be doing a week and what responsibility would you have?
What store would be the best Tesco, Dunnes stores e.tc???
When i am finished my leaving cert i am going to do a level 7 Business Management Course.When this course is finished would i be able to go into a store managers job straight away????

Was in a similar situation to yourself. When i was doing my LC I worked for a big electrical company. Don't want to state who. I worked with them part time since I was 16 and new the ins and out's of what was going on. I was able to do the W/H and sales and started doing some of the managements jobs just so I knew how to do it.

I really wanted to become a manager, I thought it would be great. I did my leaving and that summer I was offered an Assistant Managers position. I thought it was great and took it. I never recieved any training from the company in question and went in at the deep end.

I found it very hard to deal with some situations, but after a while of learning from my mistakes I got there. It didn't help that there was only one other manager in my store who was over me. I was always left doing Sat and Sun and bank holidays. The head office generally had him out of my store for months at a time doing different projects. I was basically left to my own devices.

My store proved to be one of the best in the company. We always took in great money and hit all out KPI's. I was one of the top managers there at 18/19. Everyone new me, it was great. But it came at a price. I wore myself out. I would be up early in the mornings as it was a 2 hour commute each way. After a few months of this I got very stressed and stopped eating right. It became so bad that i had to leave the company because of health issues.

The pay was terrible for the work and effort I put in. You need to be a strong person, be willing to travel, be willing to sacrifice other areas in your life. You need to start at the bottom, on the shop floor. Know how everything is done and what to do. Learn from others around you, be ambitious, always look for new challenges.