Will a garage just buy my car?

mrsmaths

Hi everyone

I need to sell my car as I'm moving to the UK so don't want to bring it with me. I don't have the time to do a private sale where people come to look at car etc as I'm flitting back and forward from UK at the moment. Would a garage just buy my car (as in not a trade in)? It's probably not worth much, its a 99 Yaris, 70000 miles with a scratch down the side but with an NCT until April 09.

Apologies if this is a daft question but don't really know much about this area...
Thanks for any help

kmick

I was offered 6k trade in on a 2003 Yaris. A 99 Yaris direct purchase cant be worth more than 1-1.5k. Why not hang on to it or give it to a youunger sister/brother to look after/keep.

drunkmonkey

That sounds like a good little can any garage could turn a few quid on.........the milage is right and it's a toyota yaris, great for a first car.....

It's probably worth around €3500 - €5000 on a private sale depending how bad the scratch is......could a good buff take the worst out of the scratch?

Delaer won't give you much......

Don't be lazy put it in the buy and sell and get your moneys worth......it should go quickly...

I.S.T.

mrsmaths wrote: »

Hi everyone

I need to sell my car as I'm moving to the UK so don't want to bring it with me. I don't have the time to do a private sale where people come to look at car etc as I'm flitting back and forward from UK at the moment. Would a garage just buy my car (as in not a trade in)? It's probably not worth much, its a 99 Yaris, 70000 miles with a scratch down the side but with an NCT until April 09.

Apologies if this is a daft question but don't really know much about this area...
Thanks for any help

It might be worth your while bringing it to the UK and selling it there. You can drive on foreign plates for up to six months in the UK so gives you time to get settled before you look at selling. A car might also come in handy when you move first.

mrsmaths

Thanks for the replies everyone. I might look into asking my Dad to look after the private sale (not being lazy but I am in the UK mostly and moving fully v shortly)

Thanks again :cool:

mrsmaths

IrishSpeedTraps wrote: »

It might be worth your while bringing it to the UK and selling it there. You can drive on foreign plates for up to six months in the UK so gives you time to get settled before you look at selling. A car might also come in handy when you move first.

See problem is that you can't sell it on the Irish plates here and its a red tape nightmare trying to register it. Thanks anyway

S.I.R

yaris are very high in demand atm with all the new drivers and prove drivers having to down grade....

no trouble getting rid of it just ring atleast 10 garages and see what they will give.

blorg

You'll get a lot more with a private sale, and you'll sell quickly if you price it competitively. Look at the prices on Carzone and price at the bottom for comparable mileage (which would be no more than €3,200.)

Alternatively you could get your dad to do it and split the extra over a dealer sale with him. Make sure to take good photos.

Cars are cheaper in the UK so wouldn't see a lot of point in bringing it over there to sell.

mrsmaths

blorg wrote: »

You'll get a lot more with a private sale, and you'll sell quickly if you price it competitively. Look at the prices on Carzone and price at the bottom for comparable mileage (which would be no more than €3,200.)

Alternatively you could get your dad to do it and split the extra over a dealer sale with him. Make sure to take good photos.

Cars are cheaper in the UK so wouldn't see a lot of point in bringing it over there to sell.

Thanks Blorg for the effort of looking that up Ok think that's the best thing to do then. Thanks everyone for the advice

Biro

mrsmaths wrote: »

See problem is that you can't sell it on the Irish plates here and its a red tape nightmare trying to register it. Thanks anyway

It's not a red tape nightmare at all. Ring the DVLA, they're very helpfull. It only costs £50 to re-register it. Me thinks you're a bit lazy!

mrsmaths

Biro wrote: »

It's not a red tape nightmare at all. Ring the DVLA, they're very helpfull. It only costs £50 to re-register it. Me thinks you're a bit lazy!

I spoke to them via email yesterday and I got this back:

"Thank you for your email.

I should firstly mention that DVLA Swansea can only answer general enquiries regarding vehicles used/registered abroad prior to registration with the DVLA . Specific enquiries regarding the procedures or documentation required must be directed to the DVLA Local Office where the application will be made.

You should apply to tax and register the vehicle at your nearest DVLA Local Office, as soon as possible after arrival in the UK. A list of Local Office addresses may be found on our website as listed below, or in booklet V100 available at any tax disc issuing Post Office®. The vehicle must be in this country and available for inspection before you make the application. The only circumstances, in which you can drive the vehicle, are to and from a pre-arranged SVA/MOT test and to and from a garage for remedial work following failure to pass the test. Thereafter the vehicle should be kept off the road until the taxing and registration formalities have been completed. NB. UK law requires a vehicle to be licensed and registered for road use. To avoid difficulties, importers are advised to transport rather than drive their vehicles from the port of entry to home or first destination.

Please note applications will not be dealt with over the counter. Applications received outside a Local Office catchment area will be accepted and forwarded to the Local Office nearest the applicant’s home address for processing. Provided that the documentation is lodged with the Local Office in this way and the registration requirements have been complied with, the application will normally be dealt with by return of post.

From 1 January 2004 keepers who first license and register their vehicle(s) using application forms V55/4 or V55/5 will have to produce proof of name and address. A new information leaflet INF148 'Licensing and Registering Your Vehicle Using a V55/4 or a V55/5' has been produced giving details of the identity documents required. If you fail to read this information before submitting your application it may cause a delay in your application being processed.

The following documents will need to be submitted to the Local Office:

* Completed application form V55/4 or if appropriate V55/5:
* Form V55/4 is for "brand new" vehicles
* Form V55/5 is for "used" vehicles
* Appropriate Identity Documentation confirming your name and address
* A £55 registration fee (if applicable)
* The required fee for the tax disc
* British insurance certificate
* The appropriate Revenue & Customs form (see fact sheet 1)
* Foreign registration document and any other papers you have relating to the vehicle
* A current British MOT test certificate for:
* Cars, motorcycles, motor caravans and Light Good Vehicles if more than 3 years old
* Passenger carrying vehicles with more than 8 seats and taxis (excluding private hire cars) if more than 1 year old
* Evidence of type approval (see fact sheet 2)

A brand new vehicle can be driven to GB and registered as new provided the vehicle is registered quickly after collection, this is taken as 14 days, has reasonable delivery mileage and it has not been previously "permanently" registered.

On receipt of a completed application the Local Office will allocate a registration mark appropriate to the vehicle's date of first use abroad and issue a vehicle excise licence. The papers will be forwarded to DVLA Swansea and you will receive a registration certificate for the vehicle within 6 weeks.

FACT SHEET 1

REVENUE & CUSTOMS DOCUMENTATION

WHAT CUSTOMS FORM DO I NEED?

C&E 386 This form is issued by Revenue & Customs for a vehicle of any age personally imported from outside the European Union (EU).

C&E 388 This form is issued by Revenue & Customs for a Customs restricted vehicle of any age personally imported from outside the EU.

C&E 389 This is a self-declaration form which should be used by VAT registered traders for commercial imports from outside the EU.

BFG 414 This form is issued to all Customs relieved vehicles, irrespective of age,
which have been personally acquired within the EU by British Forces Germany personnel.

VAT 414 This self-declaration form (available at Local Offices) should only be used in the following circumstances:

a) For NMT vehicles acquired commercially within the EU by VAT registered traders.

b) For vehicles not classed as NMTs (ie. over 6 months old and having travelled more than 6,000 kms) which have been acquired from within the EU.

VAT 415 This self-declaration form (available at Local Offices) should be completed by customers when they have personally acquired a New Means of Transport (NMT) from within the EU. Following licensing and registration the form will be forwarded to Revenue & Customs.

Please note that a VAT 415 cannot be used for vehicles imported from outside the EU (eg. Japan or the USA – even if the vehicle has been driven to the UK via an EU country).

NB: New Means of Transport (NMT) vehicles are defined by Revenue & Customs as originating from within the EU and are either less than 6 months old or have travelled less than 6,000 kms.

FACT SHEET 2

TYPE APPROVAL

Most cars and light goods vehicles manufactured up to 10 years old need to produce evidence of type approval.

For vehicles brought in from the European Union this will take the form of an ECWVTA (Certificate of Conformity (CoC). Copies can be obtained from the manufacturer – a charge is usually made for this.

If you have been unable to obtain a Certificate of Conformity for a vehicle previously registered in another Member State prior to import it might be acceptable in the UK under the mutual recognition procedure. Further advice on this can be obtained from the Vehicle Certificate Agency – Telephone 0117 952 4125.

Vehicles imported from a non-European country will need to be submitted for an SVA inspection. Until 31 July 2001, one level of test applied to all vehicles. But from 1 August 2001 a more stringent test has been introduced. Enhanced SVA (ESVA). The Basic SVA will be retained only for the following main categories of imported vehicle.

* "personally imported" vehicle as defined below
* any left hand drive vehicle

From 17 June 2003, motorcycles must either have Type Approval, Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval or Mutual Recognition. Without such approval or exemption, such motorcycles cannot be registered in GB.

WHAT IS A PERSONAL IMPORT

As from 1 February 2001 you are a personal importer only

1. if the vehicle has been imported by a person entering the United Kingdom;
2. that person had, at the time the vehicle was imported, been normally resident in a country other than the United Kingdom for a continuous period of at least 12 months;
3. that person intends to become normally resident in the United Kingdom;
4. the vehicle has been in the possession of that person and used by him in the country where he has been normally resident for a period of at least 6 months before its importation; and
5. the vehicle is intended for his personal or household use in the United Kingdom. Establishing the criteria of the new "Personal Import" criteria will be the responsibility of the Vehicle Inspectorate.

Vehicles over 10 years old are exempt from type approval and from SVA.

NB: Vehicles over 3 years old are also required to pass an MOT (Passenger Carrying Vehicles with more than 8 seats and taxis – excluding private hire cars – if more than 1 year old).

Further information can be obtained from the booklets "How to Import a Vehicle into Great Britain" (PI5) and "The Single Vehicle Approval Scheme" (SVA4)."

To me, that seems like a red tape nightmare.

Mylow

See if you can get Certificate of Conformity from Toyota Ireland, If you have been unable to obtain a Certificate of Conformity for a vehicle previously registered in another Member State prior to import it might be acceptable in the UK under the mutual recognition procedure.

You will have to get the car MOT'd on it VIN and insured using VIN number, then go to registration office. Fill out SAV55 form and pay fee, they will issue you with roadtax. DVLA will post out V5 document to you.

You will also have to change over your driving license if your there for more than 6 months

Done and dusted.

mrsmaths

Is the VIN number the one on the reg document? See its the MOT i'd worry about for my poor old Toyota!

I.S.T.

mrsmaths, you can bring it in to the UK as a "temporary" import and keep your Irish plates, road tax and instrance for up to six months.

I.S.T.

Mylow wrote: »

You will also have to change over your driving license if your there for more than 6 months

Done and dusted.

That is not true. You can drive on an Irish (or EU) licence for up to three years after becoming resident...

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/DrivingInGbOnAForeignLicence/DG_4022556

EDIT: Actually you can drive on your Irish licence until you are 70 years old!

noeld6

probably havent put this post in the right place but im planning on movin to uk is it better to sell car and buy one there or try re register, prob is it 06 almera and it in km ph and they use mph is it a law there that i have both mph and kpm on the speedo :( confused help

Del2005

noeld6 wrote: »

probably havent put this post in the right place but im planning on movin to uk is it better to sell car and buy one there or try re register, prob is it 06 almera and it in km ph and they use mph is it a law there that i have both mph and kpm on the speedo :( confused help

Better off selling here. It won't be worth much over there as it'll be a poverty spec compared to UK models.

It'll fail it's MOT for the speedo as it has to have MPH. But if you put a sticker beside the speedo with speed confersions it should get through

noeld6

ouch poverty spec:mad: 2yr old sxe model ,, hhmm is it easy to re register for uk reg, how long can i keep irish plate , tax etc?