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Best fuel economy - cheapest car to run

  • 28-05-2008 8:14am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭


    My wife is looking for a new car - she has a yaris at the moment but rising fuel costs are starting to bite so for a replacement. So what is the cheapest car to run? She does mostly city driving and is looking for a small car so I imagine its down to the toyota aygo/peugeot 107//Citroen C3. Or is there something else out there.
    I think VW have a new polo coming out thats fairly fuel efficient too.

    Is there any site out there which lists the cheapest cars to run based on actual tests not manufacturers stats?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    diahatsu charade can do from 70 to near 80 mpg... looks arent great but if you want a bullet proof ( mechanically ) then buy this...


    if you need a little ripper to blast around town in i reccomend getting her a cheqachento


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    if a Yaris is getting too expensive to run you should just get rid of it and buy her a bicycle :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    MINI Cooper D. Most economical car on sale, with an average fuel consumption of 74.3 mpg.

    Alternatively, the Aygo/C1/107 does 61.4 mpg. Cheapest of all would be to keep the yaris. The Yaris is a complete miser on the petrol really.

    The efficient Bluemotion polo won't be here till next year, owing to a supply boo bah by VW. Though when Fifth Gear tested it they ionly managed 47.5 mpg from a car claimed to do 74.3 mpg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    You'll spend far more changing to a newer more economical car, that staying with what she currently has. is the cost of motoring the only reason she want's to change or is she changing anyway and wants to get something economical?

    4.3kWp South facing PV System. South Dublin



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Soarer


    If it's mostly city driving, wouldn't a Prius be the most fuel efficient as it doesn't use the petrol engine below 30mph?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    Good point. Hybrids are particularly efficient at low speeds. Cars like the MINI Cooper D have auto start stop which makes it very efficient if the car is spending a lot of time in traffic.

    Alternatively they reckon on a conventional car that idling for more than 20 seconds is less efficient than turning off the car and starting up again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭thejuggler


    Shes changing anyway but may as well get something economical with fuel prices on the rise at ever increasing rates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    thejuggler wrote: »
    Shes changing anyway but may as well get something economical with fuel prices on the rise at ever increasing rates

    It has to be brand new? Why not buy a year old car for 2/3 the money??? :confused: Then it doesn't matter if its thirsty, you just saved 5 or 6 grand.

    Am I missing something? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    If you work out the total cost of motoring cost it would be more accurate..
    Take payments, tax, insurance, servicing etc all in and the sums will look different..
    As previous posters have mentioned, the cost of upgrade will blow any potential savings as you are already driving an efficient car...
    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭jimogr


    Fiat 500 1.3 Diesel - lowest CO2 band for tax (and will see a price drop in July) 68 mpg combined. And it's a bit different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    jimogr wrote: »
    Fiat 500 1.3 Diesel ... will see a price drop in July
    It won't. It was launched at "July prices" back in January (yeah right but either way it won't be reducing in price from July)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭Darwin


    E92 wrote: »
    ...The Yaris is a complete miser on the petrol really.
    Have to disagree here, wife has a 1.0L new Yaris and it's only slightly better on fuel consumption than her old 1.6 206cc (daily journey is 70 mile round trip on national roads). But I concur with the others here in that the amount of money you lose on your trade-in is the most significant cost in owning a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭jimogr


    E92 wrote: »
    It won't. It was launched at "July prices" back in January (yeah right but either way it won't be reducing in price from July)

    My mistake :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,689 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I was looking at mini cooper d and the petrol is still 1200 cheaper in july and not a massive difference in economy and most likely better resale after


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭NedKelly


    My dad had a Diesel Yaris that did 60 mpg in the city and more on long runs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Soarer wrote: »
    If it's mostly city driving, wouldn't a Prius be the most fuel efficient as it doesn't use the petrol engine below 30mph?
    Prius does a very good 56mpg urban which, euro for euro, is a bit better than the brand new Cooper D. Prius also has the edge on practicality, as it has a boot. Still tho, the MINI looks all cutesy (even if it smells bad).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Soarer wrote: »
    If it's mostly city driving, wouldn't a Prius be the most fuel efficient as it doesn't use the petrol engine below 30mph?

    Keep it below 30mph and you'll never have to put petrol in :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Capital Slow


    E92 wrote: »
    MINI Cooper D. Most economical car on sale, with an average fuel consumption of 74.3 mpg.

    Alternatively, the Aygo/C1/107 does 61.4 mpg. Cheapest of all would be to keep the yaris. The Yaris is a complete miser on the petrol really.

    The efficient Bluemotion polo won't be here till next year, owing to a supply boo bah by VW. Though when Fifth Gear tested it they ionly managed 47.5 mpg from a car claimed to do 74.3 mpg.

    Just past the Texaco near Cabinteely, the diesel was 141.9:D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭Balfa


    Juggler, you're going at it the wrong way. You can't just say you're shopping for fuel economy because good fuel economy means lower cost of ownership. That's an assumption that doesn't always follow. It's the same as saying you want fuel economy because good fuel economy means environmentally friendly.

    Just ask for recommendations based on what you really want. If you want low cost of ownership, stick with your Yaris. There's no way getting a new car will come close to matching it, regardless of its fuel economy.

    Check out Edmunds True Cost to Own.
    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/toyota/yaris/100919847/cto.html?setzip=75067&vdp=off
    These figures are for the US, where fuel is cheaper, so keep that in mind. But who's to say depreciation isn't cheaper as well? And besides, you say the missus only uses it for puttering about town, and probably comes nowhere near the annual 15k miles that Edmunds based their numbers on.

    Say you own a three year yaris, and you swap it for a new car that's similar in running costs except it has 20% better fuel economy. For the next three years, your fuel costs will be $4278, while the person who bought your Yaris will pay $5446, so you've saved $1168.
    But since you also paid $5922 in depreciation, and the owner of your old car paid $2854, you made a net opportunity loss of 1900 over sticking with the Yaris.

    Remember, there's an awful lot more to the price of a car than its sticker price, or indeed its miles per gallon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Balfa wrote: »
    Juggler, you're going at it the wrong way. You can't just say you're shopping for fuel economy because good fuel economy means lower cost of ownership. That's an assumption that doesn't always follow. It's the same as saying you want fuel economy because good fuel economy means environmentally friendly.

    Just ask for recommendations based on what you really want. If you want low cost of ownership, stick with your Yaris. There's no way getting a new car will come close to matching it, regardless of its fuel economy.

    Check out Edmunds True Cost to Own.
    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/toyota/yaris/100919847/cto.html?setzip=75067&vdp=off
    These figures are for the US, where fuel is cheaper, so keep that in mind. But who's to say depreciation isn't cheaper as well? And besides, you say the missus only uses it for puttering about town, and probably comes nowhere near the annual 15k miles that Edmunds based their numbers on.

    Say you own a three year yaris, and you swap it for a new car that's similar in running costs except it has 20% better fuel economy. For the next three years, your fuel costs will be $4278, while the person who bought your Yaris will pay $5446, so you've saved $1168.
    But since you also paid $5922 in depreciation, and the owner of your old car paid $2854, you made a net opportunity loss of 1900 over sticking with the Yaris.

    Remember, there's an awful lot more to the price of a car than its sticker price, or indeed its miles per gallon.

    I hate these sensible posts and logical arguments! ;)


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