CPT REVIEW Why do people go What are they doing right

aidankk

I have always avoided the CPT events held locally to me as ive read all the bad press on boards and ive spoken to a good few players who went on few occasions, in fact ive always preached to players thinking of going that they might be better checking out Big Slick or one of the clubs around.

On friday last i was late and had to cancel going to the 75fo in waterford, so at the last minute i decided to go to Carlow and try out a CPT event that i was told by a friend there had only 60 runners at the time and haddn't started yet.. There was a 10k guarentee, so i went over safe in the knowledge that the payout should be good with such a low attendence (well low for CPT who regulary get over 100)

When i got there it had started and there was about 80 playing. The game was 100 + 15 reg, and one 50 rebuy or topup.

Its self deal at the start, and this is just wrong for the size of the buyin (165), and when i looked around there seems to be loads of people working at the tourney, almost enough for a dealer at each table..

In fairness when the total prizepool was announced at 11.5k i got a pleasent surprise are with 80 players at 100 and not everyone topping up it seams that on this occasion all of the money went into the pot.

I've often wondered why these events are doing so well, when there is much better organised poker going on locally, i.e. Big Slick in SE . There is a few things ive noted.

The general standard of play is waaaayyyyy lower than say a big slick 100fo or likewise.. Its like going back in time to when i first started playing 4-5 years ago.. Things like family pots early on, no one bothering to steal later on and any number of other things. Chips being spewed off at an alarming rate..

I asked a player who drove from NEWBRIDGE:eek: especially to play why he would come so far when there would be any number of good tourneys in dublin with dealers transparent pricepools etc, he just said he enjoyed CPT and that was it. I think he felt comfortable playing what he knew best and perhaps would be intimidated going into some poker clubs

I think the main reason for their success is that they create the atmosphpere of a pub game but with large prizepools. The organiser knows everyone by name (and i mean everyone) and they have built up a large following of people who have only ever played CPT or pub poker..

If i played a Big Slick event in carlow or waterford , i would know or have played with 75% of the players at some point.. But i had never seen all but about 5 of the players playing, only 20mins from my home town..

The question id ask myself is it worth going again, and id have to think it might be worth going occasionly as this event is definatly +EV for any good player (not that im any good but in this field i may be above average), even tought it would be frustrating to deal, and cope with the rapidly increasing blinds later on. But id much prefer a properly run tourney.

• All the way trough no one else at any of my tables ever tried to steal with nothing, critical with the blinds escalating
• There was plenty of opertunities to get huge pots early on as it beggers belief some of the calls id seen
• A lot of players got way too tight later on, trying to make the money
• The prizepools are big, and if the right number of players are there i.e. 80 or less its not as much of a crapshoot as with some of the 150+ turnouts

So what are they doing right to attract such large crowds when other better organised events are not.

• To your average pub player who has never been to a club it just seems big time, Big trophy, Large Guarenteed prize pool, and dealers at the last 4 tables
• They seem to create a comfortable atmosphere in comparison to some clubs ive been in
• I think most of their players only play their events and wouldnt bother trying anything else
• Organisers have a certain country charm, knowing names etc

Sure hope this huge pool of poker:rolleyes: players can eventually persuaded to try other properly organised events. I told as many as i could that they should try sone big slick events but im not sure i got trough to anyone.:(:(.

5starpool

If you think there is value and that you can make money then by all means go.

eoin-dubh

fantastic guaranteed quality spot prizes......

Sirtoyou

I made my CPT debut this month and everything the OP has said is valid.I found it to be very friendly and very fishy.I got over the self deal by taking it upon myself to deal for the table(i saw more value in getting extra hands in per level.)
It certainly had a very pub tourney feel to it and any boardsie worth his salt is +ev in this tourney.Again it had circa 80 runners so I could not see the prizepool being fleeced.They had a van and a truck for transport and about 12 staff,room hire and accommodation to pay for so I cant imagine it being an enormously profitable night for them.
I also saw a lot of players there who would normally be at the city casinos 100fo that night so there's a follow the fish mentality for a decent pot.
The cash games are very juicy and it could be possibly more profitable to bust out of the tourney early to join these games.You cannot play the cash games unless you've played the tourney but i suggest it could be worth the fee.
Overall it had a big event feel for a small fee.Every player is made to feel special and there is a commentary on all final table activity.Their website is an example for any organiser with comprehensive reports of all games etc.
I enjoyed my night there,sure it has its faults which are well documented but with an open mind it can be a very profitable night for any decent player.

Ps I'd imagine the overheads on this venture to be quite expensive considering the mileage they seem to put in on just a friday and sunday event.

CHD

meh here it goes again

Four of a kind

just wait for this thread to kick off!!!! Hell will break loose:eek:

Jools Poker

I've played in many CPT events over the last few years all over the country depending where I was based at the time....and while I personally prefer a better structured dealer dealt game, I still enjoy going to CPT events.

One of the main reasons is that CPT have a hugely loyal following- it's like a mini circuit tour of Ireland and you'll meet the same people and the same staff in every location. Imo they cater perfectly to a specific part of the market "the country" (btw I'm a culchie myself before any culchie hackles rise)-they run a tournament which appeals to people who are mainly living in rural Ireland and they focus on not just the tournament but creating a relaxed atmosphere, where you won't get many spouting metagames theories and the like. It's like the modern version of dancing at the crossroads ( I'm a culchie btw before anyone ) i.e. A CPT tournament is actually about far more than the actual tournament -it's a social occasion and imo it definitely has it's place in the Irish poker scene. It's not for the purist but it answers the demands of a lot of players who like a game and a few drinks and a bit of craic and aren't too worried about a bit of string betting

(CPT is also a very finely oiled advertising machine that covers huge mileage and their league pulls in a lot of the same people to multiple venues)

Good luck to them I say - if you don't like it, don't go
jools

Four of a kind

Jools Poker wrote: »

I've played in many CPT events over the last few years all over the country depending where I was based at the time....and while I personally prefer a better structured dealer dealt game, I still enjoy going to CPT events.

One of the main reasons is that CPT have a hugely loyal following- it's like a mini circuit tour of Ireland and you'll meet the same people and the same staff in every location. Imo they cater perfectly to a specific part of the market "the country" (btw I'm a culchie myself before any culchie hackles rise)-they run a tournament which appeals to people who are mainly living in rural Ireland and they focus on not just the tournament but creating a relaxed atmosphere, where you won't get many spouting metagames theories and the like. It's like the modern version of dancing at the crossroads ( I'm a culchie btw before anyone ) i.e. A CPT tournament is actually about far more than the actual tournament -it's a social occasion and imo it definitely has it's place in the Irish poker scene. It's not for the purist but it answers the demands of a lot of players who like a game and a few drinks and a bit of craic and aren't too worried about a bit of string betting

(CPT is also a very finely oiled advertising machine that covers huge mileage and their league pulls in a lot of the same people to multiple venues)

Good luck to them I say - if you don't like it, don't go
jools

Hi Julie,
While I see your point of view and accept that every individual has a right to their own opinion, I have to disagree with CPT been good for Irish Poker.

I heard many people saying that they will never play a poker tournament again after playing with CPT because its all "luck"! Now everyone know's that CPT don't provide a decent structure tourney and therefore when the chip leader has only 20+ Big blinds when there's 25 players left...of course its more of less luck.
They come out of the tournament thinking that the luckiest player wins...which can be true in any given tourney(not just CPT). They develop this notion that all poker tournaments are the same and therefore don't bother going to any other ones.

I understand that CPT caters to a specific market of players but this also leads newbie players to believe that their's no element of skill involved in Poker, and thats the point I'm trying to make.

If I'm slated for this so be it. Fair play to CPT for getting the hugh numbers week in week out.....no one else comes close to them in that respect. But IMHO I don't think having poorly structured tourneys is good for improving poker as a whole in Ireland.

Just my two cents and nothing personal so be taking from it Julie.

Jools Poker

Four of a kind wrote: »

Hi Julie,
While I see your point of view and accept that every individual has a right to their own opinion, I have to disagree with CPT been good for Irish Poker.

I heard many people saying that they will never play a poker tournament again after playing with CPT because its all "luck"! Now everyone know's that CPT don't provide a decent structure tourney and therefore when the chip leader has only 20+ Big blinds when there's 25 players left...of course its more of less luck.
They come out of the tournament thinking that the luckiest player wins...which can be true in any given tourney(not just CPT). They develop this notion that all poker tournaments are the same and therefore don't bother going to any other ones.

I understand that CPT caters to a specific market of players but this also leads newbie players to believe that their's no element of skill involved in Poker, and thats the point I'm trying to make.

If I'm slated for this so be it. Fair play to CPT for getting the hugh numbers week in week out.....no one else comes close to them in that respect. But IMHO I don't think having poorly structured tourneys is good for improving poker as a whole in Ireland.

Just my two cents and nothing personal so be taking from it Julie.

hey Four of a Kind - dunno which one of you I've got now but I totally hear what you're saying- I think however you've missed the point I was making - I never said CPT was good for Poker! The point I made is that CPT is not just about poker - it fills a big demand for people living in rural areas to have a good sociable night out, a few drinks, a game of cards a bit of craic and meet a few people. Poker is almost incidental to the package..
I'm not purporting it to be the shining light in tournaments in this country but it does serve an important purpose....

Four of a kind

Jools Poker wrote: »

hey Four of a Kind - dunno which one of you I've got now but I totally hear what you're saying- I think however you've missed the point I was making - I never said CPT was good for Poker! The point I made is that CPT is not just about poker - it fills a big demand for people living in rural areas to have a good sociable night out, a few drinks, a game of cards a bit of craic and meet a few people. Poker is almost incidental to the package..
I'm not purporting it to be the shining light in tournaments in this country but it does serve an important purpose....

Sorry forgot to say it was me...Carlo. Yeah i know what you mean by the social aspect of the tourneys for rural areas.

doke

Sure us culchies would never manage to reproduce if there wasn't something to fill the void left by church dances and the like.

On a marginally more serious note, if anyone thinks poorly structured tourneys dominating the poker scene in terms of punters numbers is unique to that part of Ireland that isn't Dublin, bear in mind that on any given night in the Big Shmoke you'll have way more people playing in poorly structured pub events and the like than in the casinos here. The reality is that most people don't want a "good structure". It's not even in their best interest: it'd just make it easier for the average boardsie to rise to the business end rather than the local luckbucket who wins 15 handicap races out of 15 that night.

This is particularly true of beginners. The more luck involved, the better their chances. It's only as a beginner improves and realises it's not all luck that they'll start to see the advantage of better structures, and hopefully seek them out. But you're always talking about the top 5-10% anyway: the rest will be better off in the bingo crapshoots all their lives.

gazman59

aidan i think i was talking to you at the break i was d young guy wearing grey top.. anywho just a few numbers.. i played this as im from carlow and had nothin else to do. there was 92 players = €9200 which means there was €2300 of rebuys which = 46 rebuys which means only half the field rebought.. now somehow i would think alot more ppl would have rebought?

Russh

Total Prizepool is announced when at most there is 15-20 players left...Why not announce it after top up's are complete...Why not put total no. of entrants on screen along with rebuy's/topup's like most reputable tourney organisers...

Although reports of late makes me think they have recognised they have been seen to be creaming it in the past and maybe their holding back a tad....Their numbers seem to have taken a dive also...

10K Gtd seems to be the carrot....

Carlow and Newbridge are hardly rural....

Conbro

Carlow and Newbridge are hardly rural....

lol of course not :rolleyes:

tipp86

Sirtoyou wrote: »

I got over the self deal by taking it upon myself to deal for the table(i saw more value in getting extra hands in per level.)

If i didnt know you and you put yourself forward to deal id object as whats to stop you been a genius with cards and fiddle the deck.

With regards to cpt think i may give them a chance next time there local. Il probably spend the whole time bitching about things.

theGIANT

Iv played CPT maybe two or three times now.Would have to say they really do need dealers.Last time i played when we came close to the bubble i suggested that we do a deal so every one gets paid.Cpt had an issue with this and said it would be to much trouble to do.to lazy to deal cards to lazy to count money!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ste05

Four of a kind wrote: »

I understand that CPT caters to a specific market of players but this also leads newbie players to believe that their's no element of skill involved in Poker, and thats the point I'm trying to make.

If I'm slated for this so be it. Fair play to CPT for getting the hugh numbers week in week out.....no one else comes close to them in that respect. But IMHO I don't think having poorly structured tourneys is good for improving poker as a whole in Ireland.

Just my two cents and nothing personal so be taking from it Julie.

Who cares about the standard of Poker in Ireland or improving the average poker skill in the country??

To most people, all that Poker will ever be to them, is a bit of craic, just like spending the day in the pub while running over to the bookies to bet on the races.

It's a fun social occasion for them, not everyone gives a monkey's whether they shouldn't be playing A3o UTG, but the craic of winning a pot is what it's all about, they don't care about "the long run" or "EV" etc. etc. We're the freaks here, remember.

These same people understand that there is some skill involved (but usually think it involves soul reading mainly with a little maths added in, maths isn't a fun topic for most people and if you don't have "the gift" of soul reading there's not much point, just like playing Soccer professionally, you're either born with it or your not, but there's still thousands of people playing at all levels of Soccer around the country and world who will never make it as a Pro, but still enjoy playing it at the level they are at. They know all this because just like Cristiano Ronaldo and Fernando Torres are brilliant at soccer, the likes of Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu and Phil Hellmuth are brilliant at Poker and wouldn't have made so much money over the years if there wasn't some skill involved, but most people don't care and never will care that Poker is alot more maths and studyable then Soccer.

So in conclusion, if these people are given the choice of playing with sharks in the "Casino's" or Joe the farmer and Mick from down the road, they'll always choose the bit of craic, over the (presumed) sharks because that's what they want.

What is important though, is that these people aren't getting the eyes ripped out of their heads on a weekly basis, and by some reports CPT have cleaned up their act on this front.

/rant

DEEP THROAT

Ste05 wrote: »

Who cares about the standard of Poker in Ireland or improving the average poker skill in the country??

To most people, all that Poker will ever be to them, is a bit of craic, just like spending the day in the pub while running over to the bookies to bet on the races.

It's a fun social occasion for them, not everyone gives a monkey's whether they shouldn't be playing A3o UTG, but the craic of winning a pot is what it's all about, they don't care about "the long run" or "EV" etc. etc. We're the freaks here, remember.

These same people understand that there is some skill involved (but usually think it involves soul reading mainly with a little maths added in, maths isn't a fun topic for most people and if you don't have "the gift" of soul reading there's not much point, just like playing Soccer professionally, you're either born with it or your not, but there's still thousands of people playing at all levels of Soccer around the country and world who will never make it as a Pro, but still enjoy playing it at the level they are at. They know all this because just like Cristiano Ronaldo and Fernando Torres are brilliant at soccer, the likes of Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu and Phil Hellmuth are brilliant at Poker and wouldn't have made so much money over the years if there wasn't some skill involved, but most people don't care and never will care that Poker is alot more maths and studyable then Soccer.

So in conclusion, if these people are given the choice of playing with sharks in the "Casino's" or Joe the farmer and Mick from down the road, they'll always choose the bit of craic, over the (presumed) sharks because that's what they want.

What is important though, is that these people aren't getting the eyes ripped out of their heads on a weekly basis, and by some reports CPT have cleaned up their act on this front.

/rant

And of course the fact that they wont have people making negative comments about their play.... In fact at these events every winning call is brilliant and the more outlandish the call is the more appreciation you will get

eagle eye

As far as their structure goes, the eglinton in galway runs an event every wednesday night that costs 100+15(yes 15% reg.) and is a total crapshoot.
The funny thing about is that there are a lot of players playing in galway who pay this 15 euro reg. fee that would not be seen dead at a cpt event and would constantly give out about the structure of their events which makes me lmfao.
I personally would not support the cpt and the reason is that when I was a noob at texas holdem, I attended three of their events and they ripped off people taking in 20-30k and only having a 10k prizepool.

There was also an incident at one of their events, the last one that I attended where I was seated at a table full of donkeys and was running over the table while they used up their many rebuys, there was another well known face at the table and he had been doing well at that table until I arrived.
I noticed him talking to one of the hosts/bouncers/employees who removed me from that table a very short time later and I was not next bb and strongly protested but it fell on deaf ears. I was told that as I was last to be seated at that table that I would be the first one to be moved.
I cannot be certain that this was what they discussed, but this player never looked my way while I protested at being moved, which is always a sign of guilt.

I am not the type to forgive and forget thievery and crookedness.

Unfortunately they will always have support as there are now quite a number of those who attend their events that have become good friends and look forward to meeting each other at these gatherings.

It makes me so angry just to think that these conmen are still in business.

Edit to say, its great to finally have some good organisers running good events around the country, such as messrs. Kelly, O'Sullivan, Dobbins and of course not forgetting JP.

Goodluck2me

when is their tournament on in Ballybofey Julie?

Coillte_Bhoy

eagle eye wrote: »

As far as their structure goes, the eglinton in galway runs an event every wednesday night that costs 100+15(yes 15% reg.) .

And what is your problem with the reg?? Dealers at all tables i believe. FFS some of the muppets that post here and constantly moan about reg fees, structures etc...blah blah blah. Simple solution then...dont play it.

I have been critical of CPT in the past but in fairness i believe they have improved things from what i hear and i probably will play next time they are in my area. And as has been posted the social/crack part of it is a big attraction. I still think their structure sucks but hey it's a good day out, a few pints with mates etc.....just dont think you are playing the wsop and enjoy it.

Sirtoyou

tipp86 wrote: »

If i didnt know you and you put yourself forward to deal id object as whats to stop you been a genius with cards and fiddle the deck.

With regards to cpt think i may give them a chance next time there local. Il probably spend the whole time bitching about things.

They had no problem with it Enda and in fact provided me with a professional deck when they saw I was dealing.

I've thought a lot about what the Cpt reminded me of and I think I know its appeal.I played cards since a young child.My parents main social lives was 45 progressive card drives.they started bringing me to these things when I was 9 4/5 times a week.Many of these tourney were played in community halls and gaa clubs that didnt have a bar.You would see the sames faces night in night out and very few even drank when there was a bar.
The standard was also very mixed at these events.I knew people playing these games every night that never improved or even wanted to.My Father who was a brilliant player used to get very frustrated at bad play yet my Mother who was a good but not great player never bothered if she won a game because she was having fun with friends.
I used to alternate partnering them on different nights and it was always a different experience.Playing with my father was always serious which I enjoyed because I was also there to win but I dare not make a mistake.We often discussed hands etc. afterwards and he was a great teacher.Playing with my mother was different and more laxed but I also learned a lot.I always knew when she had good cards because she gave off so many tells not intentionally but I knew when she had no interest in her hand.
My point is that at any event of these sorts ie, outside of a casino you'll find a mix of people who want to take it seriously and people who just dont care and are there to get out of the house.My mother used to say that everyone pays their money and are entitled to play their cards any way they want.
These games have largely died bacause it was an older generation playing them for the most part and poker has taken over.But the social outlet is still a need for the bachelors widows etc. of this world.
The CPT are the closest thing I've seen to capturing what was good about the games I remember and if they can prosper from it fair play to them.Lets take it for what it is a not take ourselves too seriously as a community.

Ps I am as guilty of that as anyone I know sometimes.

mormank

goodluck2me wrote: »

when is their tournament on in Ballybofey Julie?

didnt they stop their games up here due to a lack of numbers??

careca

Sirtoyou wrote: »

.I always knew when she had good cards because she gave off so many tells not intentionally but I knew when she had no interest in her hand.
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Aren't you supposed to give off tells when playing 45 (or 31 in Kerry) partners

Brayruit

Ste05 wrote: »

We're the freaks here, remember.

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Sirtoyou

careca wrote: »

Aren't you supposed to give off tells when playing 45 (or 31 in Kerry) partners

No its cheating/collusion.I saw a lot of it in my time(signalling) but my mother was certainly not teaching me collusion at age 9 i hope.

mocata

45 was great entertainment, remember being about 14 or 15 and being all chuffed when the local card shark called me a "slippy wee hoor!" lol

Sirtoyou

mocata wrote: »

45 was great entertainment, remember being about 14 or 15 and being all chuffed when the local card shark called me a "slippy wee hoor!" lol

Yes a game you couldn't win without getting cards but lots of skill knowing how to play them when they came.No better satisfaction than 'holding/saving a game' ie.basically colluding with fellow shorties to prevent leader from winning a game.

I think I was able to play 45 before I could read and write.

careca

Sirtoyou wrote: »

No its cheating/collusion.I saw a lot of it in my time(signalling) but my mother was certainly not teaching me collusion at age 9 i hope.

if signalling in 45 is cheating, then there isn't an honest player in Ireland. I would have to disagree with you there, it was considered part and parcel of the game.

I saw games twenty years ago for ten pounds a game (which was big money at the time) and fellows would be talking openly after about kicking under the table, loud coughs, etc etc. It was generally accepted at the time, imo.

Sirtoyou

careca wrote: »

if signalling in 45 is cheating, then there isn't an honest player in Ireland. I would have to disagree with you there, it was considered part and parcel of the game.

I saw games twenty years ago for ten pounds a game (which was big money at the time) and fellows would be talking openly after about kicking under the table, loud coughs, etc etc. It was generally accepted at the time, imo.

I know it went on but to say it was common I feel is wronging lots of honest players who from what i saw had enough troubles knowing how to play their own cards without having the complexities of signalling burdened upon them.I also remember the big money games ie green glens/ hazel tree etc.where I witnessed this cheating but to say it was accepted is wrong.Generally these people were known and talked about and frowned upon.


I waiting for the 45 for rolls thread.

mocata

There were quite a few unique skills in 45 as i remember it, one being the old "I'm on 40 so i'll try and deflect attention away from meself" routine

gorrrr72

Let's get back to what this thread is about:rolleyes:

I have played with CPT about 5 or 6 times when they are in my area (Toughers Naas)
The standard is quite good for the most part but there are a lot of fish there too. The structure isn’t bad considering it starts at 8pm. 25 mins blinds allows a bit of play before you are under pressure. The cash games are very loose, you really need to hit your hand as they have plenty of money and won’t lay runner runner hands down. I watched guys blow 8 or 9 hundred euro on the 2-5 game while I turned my 150 into 485. I always (bar once when my qq went down to jj, j on the riverL) manage to make a tidy profit even though I haven’t managed to cash in the main game.
It’s a good option for players who don’t want to travel to Dublin for a game. I haven’t had any problems with the organisers; they seem like a good bunch of lads.
Once I did overhear players discussing buying the top up chips from their mates who were chip leaders at the break but I would hope CPT would be wise to this.

What I like is 100 plus players, 25 mins blinds as apposed to 15 mins pub blinds. By midnight or so you should be in the money or bust either way is ok as you still have a couple of hours to play the cash games before you are knackered. Any card club tournies I’ve played ended up being 3 am finishing up and the bubble boy going shortly before. Nothing as disappointing as playing for 7 hours to go out around the bubble.
Has anyone played in Roy the boys in Newbridge btw, I’ve heard good things about it. Does anyone know if he advertises his tournies anywhere?

oneillMan999

ive played a few CPTs and consider myself a good player but never did well in them, i kept forgetting that bluffing wasnt allowed in these tournaments..EVEN THO I WAS GETTING CALLED BY BOTTOM PAIR ON A BOARD OF STRAIGHTS AND FLUSHES!!!...so there was nothin wrong with my bluffs as i knew the opponents had crap and surely cudnt call me!!..but they did so there aint much poker involved at these things (whoever has the best hand wins, and if ur card dead...then u cant accumulate chips!! :mad:

Another thing that really bugs me about them is why they use really crappy cards like the old ones ur mom bought u when u were 10..good for one or two deals then almost unusable...they bring out the good ones for the last 2 table crapshoot/shoot-out.

I think everyone knows by now that they are more a social event than an actual poker tournament, so when i go now (which aint too often) i go to get pissed and have a bitta craic...:pac:

gigetheman

gorrrr72 wrote: »

Let's get back to what this thread is about:rolleyes:

I have played with CPT about 5 or 6 times when they are in my area (Toughers Naas)
The standard is quite good for the most part but there are a lot of fish there too. The structure isn’t bad considering it starts at 8pm. 25 mins blinds allows a bit of play before you are under pressure.

gorrrr72 i have to disagree the standard of poker is quite poor as for the structure the last time i played at the final table the chip leader had 7 big blinds iwas second in chips with 5 big blinds it became a complete crap-shoot,some thing needs to be done with the structure, but there is a great atmostphere and u are treated very well i must say

eagle eye

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

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And what is your problem with the reg?? Dealers at all tables i believe. FFS some of the muppets that post here and constantly moan about reg fees, structures etc...blah blah blah. Simple solution then...dont play it.

I don't play it any more as it happens. And the fact that I am not happy about paying a 15% reg fee in a casino where they have cash tables and blackjack, brag and roulette does not mean that I am a muppet.
I don't play it anymore because of the structure. The structure in the tournament is diabolical with an ante coming in on I think the fourth level which they do not advertise as part of the structure on their website.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on here, and being called a muppet for having an opinion is a bit over the top.
And here is an edit of interest to you sir, I live in the west of Ireland and was thinking of attending one or two or your events but you just lost a potential customer.

aidankk

gazman59 wrote: »

aidan i think i was talking to you at the break i was d young guy wearing grey top.. anywho just a few numbers.. i played this as im from carlow and had nothin else to do. there was 92 players = €9200 which means there was €2300 of rebuys which = 46 rebuys which means only half the field rebought.. now somehow i would think alot more ppl would have rebought?

I have to aggee with you id bay there was definatly more rebuys than that, seemed to be about 2-3 per table who didnt.. Event tought its still wrong i have heard of even worse from there previous events, particulary when it get over 150 players..

As i was telling you at the time id always prefer to play a proper dealed event run by big slick or similiar but i was interested to see soooo many players that i didnt know turning out for these, i have alway boycotted these events as a matter of principal but on this occasion i went as i was late the blazing aces tourney.

Even tough there are a lot of problems in terms of rullings, structure, prizepool etc, these events are still +EV for any good players and if these players could be eventually persuaded to play properly run events it would have a dramatic effect on the numbers turning out for good tourneys in the SE.. They nearlyalways get 90-150 at each of their events..

gorrrr72

gorrrr72 i have to disagree the standard of poker is quite poor as for the structure the last time i played at the final table the chip leader had 7 big blinds iwas second in chips with 5 big blinds it became a complete crap-shoot,some thing needs to be done with the structure, but there is a great atmostphere and u are treated very well i must say[/quote]


In fairness I never got that far but I didn't think it was that bad.

I will be playing next Friday the 6th so hopefully if I am on the final table or watching it I will post it on this thread.

Jools Poker

goodluck2me wrote: »

when is their tournament on in Ballybofey Julie?

not sure Joe- am down in Dublin this last 6 months now:D -you can usually get their schedule on the website