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Dance Music that Never became Mainstream in Ireland

  • 27-05-2008 9:02am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭


    Whilst perusing this esteemed site, it occured to me that some genres of Dance Music never really "caught on" over here whereas they were quite popular in England. Two that readily spring to mind were Acid Jazz and Northern Soul. There may have been club nites but they were never huge over here. Am I wrong in this and are there any other genres that just never gained acceptance with clubbers here?


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Northern Soul never made it across the Irish Sea.

    A bit of acid jazz survived the trip, I'd say US3 and Brand New Heavies and the like had a few hits in the early 90s, and Jamiroquai is popular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭jonny68


    Rave Music or as most would call it UK Hardcore is another prime example of dance music that never took off here.

    Dublin in the early 1990's was (and still is to an extent)very House Music orientated, but i lived in London in 1991 for a year and Hardcore was becoming big then and went overground in 1992 with the likes of The Prodigy and Altern-8 amongst others making it onto Top Of The Pops,and all of a sudden everyone jumped on the bandwagon, Rave was big business and everyone wanted a slice of the action so to speak,id always liked Hardcore since id first heard it, actually The Asylum sometimes brought over Hardcore DJ's like Nikki Blackmarket (who nows plays D & B) also the early Prodigy gigs in the Point Depot were amazing and if dj's here would've started playing Hardcore it would've IMO been massive here, but i remember even back then people for the most part didn't really know much about it apart from say Prodigy or Altern-8 who they had seen on TV, whereas there was so much underground stuff coming out on labels like Basement, Strictly Underground, Surburban Base, XL, Moving Shadow,Production House,etc,etc, i used to say to people they didn't know what they were missing out on, indeed i used to save up years ago and get the ferry (tooo expensive to fly back then) over to massive events like Helter Skelter and the likes, and come back to Dublin wondering why there was nothing happening like that here on a regular basis, i was blown away by the size and atmosphere of these events.

    A shame really as this music was groundbreaking and i was and still am seriously into it, some people might think some of it sounds cheesy but they are probably mistaking Happy Hardcore from 1995 for UK Hardcore which for the most part was not cheesy in the slightest.

    Here is a classic example of vintage 1992 Hardcore.

    http://www.discogs.com/release/29758

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu9gocPqNac&feature=related


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Always thought UK garage should have been huge in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    Nolanger wrote: »
    Always thought UK garage should have been huge in Dublin.


    was a little bit too early imo; if it had been a liiiittle later then it might gained a foothold, but dublin was just a little too "white" for it to really catch on at the time.. i remember going to a few garage nights in swich though, wednesdays used to be jamie skills and leroy stitch's night in there, great craic

    speakertreatz had a decent radio show on power fm as well..

    i think the poppier end of garage got played a fair bit at commercial clubs though, and i remember the dj in fibber magees of all places used to play that mr oizo "flat eric" tune along with "smack my bitch up" as the token dance tunes in between the marilyn manson tunes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    Nolanger wrote: »
    Always thought UK garage should have been huge in Dublin.

    After living for nearly 3 years in London, I have to say I hate UK garage and thank the lord it never made it over here!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    jonny68 wrote: »
    Rave Music or as most would call it UK Hardcore is another prime example of dance music that never took off here.

    Dublin in the early 1990's was (and still is to an extent)very House Music orientated, but i lived in London in 1991 for a year and Hardcore was becoming big then and went overground in 1992 with the likes of The Prodigy and Altern-8 amongst others making it onto Top Of The Pops,and all of a sudden everyone jumped on the bandwagon, Rave was big business and everyone wanted a slice of the action so to speak,id always liked Hardcore since id first heard it, actually The Asylum sometimes brought over Hardcore DJ's like Nikki Blackmarket (who nows plays D & B) also the early Prodigy gigs in the Point Depot were amazing and if dj's here would've started playing Hardcore it would've IMO been massive here, but i remember even back then people for the most part didn't really know much about it apart from say Prodigy or Altern-8 who they had seen on TV, whereas there was so much underground stuff coming out on labels like Basement, Strictly Underground, Surburban Base, XL, Moving Shadow,Production House,etc,etc, i used to say to people they didn't know what they were missing out on, indeed i used to save up years ago and get the ferry (tooo expensive to fly back then) over to massive events like Helter Skelter and the likes, and come back to Dublin wondering why there was nothing happening like that here on a regular basis, i was blown away by the size and atmosphere of these events.

    A shame really as this music was groundbreaking and i was and still am seriously into it, some people might think some of it sounds cheesy but they are probably mistaking Happy Hardcore from 1995 for UK Hardcore which for the most part was not cheesy in the slightest.

    Here is a classic example of vintage 1992 Hardcore.

    http://www.discogs.com/release/29758

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu9gocPqNac&feature=related
    Any of the Mansion House gigs that I went to used to play Hardcore

    but dublin was just a little too "white" for it to really catch on at the time..
    I'd say that's the main reason why an awful lot of "black" influenced music never took off over here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭empirix


    jonny68 wrote: »
    Rave Music or as most would call it UK Hardcore is another prime example of dance music that never took off here.

    Dublin in the early 1990's was (and still is to an extent)very House Music orientated, but i lived in London in 1991 for a year and Hardcore was becoming big then and went overground in 1992 with the likes of The Prodigy and Altern-8 amongst others making it onto Top Of The Pops,and all of a sudden everyone jumped on the bandwagon, Rave was big business and everyone wanted a slice of the action so to speak,id always liked Hardcore since id first heard it, actually The Asylum sometimes brought over Hardcore DJ's like Nikki Blackmarket (who nows plays D & B) also the early Prodigy gigs in the Point Depot were amazing and if dj's here would've started playing Hardcore it would've IMO been massive here, but i remember even back then people for the most part didn't really know much about it apart from say Prodigy or Altern-8 who they had seen on TV, whereas there was so much underground stuff coming out on labels like Basement, Strictly Underground, Surburban Base, XL, Moving Shadow,Production House,etc,etc, i used to say to people they didn't know what they were missing out on, indeed i used to save up years ago and get the ferry (tooo expensive to fly back then) over to massive events like Helter Skelter and the likes, and come back to Dublin wondering why there was nothing happening like that here on a regular basis, i was blown away by the size and atmosphere of these events.

    A shame really as this music was groundbreaking and i was and still am seriously into it, some people might think some of it sounds cheesy but they are probably mistaking Happy Hardcore from 1995 for UK Hardcore which for the most part was not cheesy in the slightest.

    Here is a classic example of vintage 1992 Hardcore.

    http://www.discogs.com/release/29758

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu9gocPqNac&feature=related


    Johnny mate, that aint hardcore, go to Belgime, holland and germany for hardcore - still going today. Class tune though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭jonny68


    empirix wrote: »
    Johnny mate, that aint hardcore, go to Belgime, holland and germany for hardcore - still going today. Class tune though!

    You cant get MORE Hardcore than that tune mate, your confusing Gabba that you get in Holland and Germany with UK Hardcore;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭jonny68


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Any of the Mansion House gigs that I went to used to play Hardcore



    I'd say that's the main reason why an awful lot of "black" influenced music never took off over here.

    That is true indeed but they were few and far between and unfortunately Hardcore never took off here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭empirix


    I stand corrected Johnny! you the man:pac: I sent a friend request to your myspace -->urbanbeatmaker (new tracks up very soon), i live up the road in baile phib! EZ


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭JcDubz4life


    hard house never really caught on or rave. All ireland does is house and commerchial shi*t likr tiesto who has apparently only ever made Adagio For Strings. Shame to cos nothing gets ya goin like some hardhouse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭francois


    hard house never really caught on or rave. All ireland does is house and commerchial shi*t likr tiesto who has apparently only ever made Adagio For Strings. Shame to cos nothing gets ya goin like some hardhouse

    whaddyamean hard house never caught on??? or rave? Just look at clubbing section here-Senan and the lads put loads on, Trade do nights here as does one of the few irish DJ's who have made it abroad like mark kavanagh (who has been running a hardhouse label for ages)
    Though i agree DJ Testicle should have a bounty put on his (sweaty without the pills) head


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