Why all the bad feeling?

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Although I never added to the thread, I really enjoyed reading the Radio Nova thread on here recently, and the obvious love that people had for it and what came about as a result of it.

Radiowaves has been mentioned on here recently too.. I spent many years contributing to that site also, when it was, as so many criticised, a place for anoraks, a place for people who enjoyed radio, and enjoyed talking about radio.

However, these are probably the only two threads that have conjured good images of radio for me. The later soon stopped that too, when it ended up a mess and coming to the most negative conclusions possible.

People have stopped posting in Radiowaves and here because of this repeated repeated repeated lashing out at anything radio that is posted. Whether it be somebody in RTE taking a week off ‘at the tax-payers expense’ or Ray Darcy reading out a text that says something good about his radio station.

It has descended in to a mess. Is Irish radio really THAT bad? Do you still believe that RTE 2FM come in to your house, rob you piggybank and give it to the G Monster? Does one silly comment by a radio presenter really grind your gears THAT much? Do you have to listen at all? Do you just have a grudge against someone or some establishment in the industry? Is everywhere outside The Pale really the bog?

Is everyone that manages to get on the airwaves (often for pittance money) really a C*NT , JERK, *****R , BIT*H, TROLL*P, CLOWN, IDIOT, WHO*E, ATTENTION SEEKING WHO*RE, TWAT, MUPPET, DICKHE*D, FOOL, FAT, IGNORANT, BOGGER, USELESS, UNFUNNY, UNIMAGINATIVE, CHEESY, BORING, D4 HEAD, EGOTISTICAL, RUBBISH, SHI*E etc etc

Why all the hate?

mike65

Ah come on now, whatever about RadioWaves, this board is thriving right now. We love our radio and for reasons best explained by a psycho-logo-ist peeps take ownership of radio stations and programmes in a far more powerful way than TV could ever ilicit.

We don't hate - we love we love so much we want to kill.

Mike.

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mike65 wrote: »

Ah come on now, whatever about RadioWaves, this board is thriving right now.

Maybe I worded that badly... I meant some people who had good contributions left. But obviously there are still plenty posting!

mike65 wrote: »

we want to kill.

*runs away

FlutterinBantam

maybe we are telling it as it is.:cool:

jor el

elviscostello wrote: »

Is Irish radio really THAT bad?

I don't think so. Using the wonders of "The Internet" we can now listen to radio stations from all over the world, and I have to say there's not much difference out there (admittedly my "around the world" stretches as far as the UK).

There does seem to be quite a bit of hatred of Mr D'Arcy, in particular, around these boards, not to mention G Ryan. The only person I can't stand to listen to though is Nikki Hayes, mainly because she always comes across as a dizzy bimbo. Not doing much for the image of girls on the radio.

godfrey

well, if I could air my feelings here without being banished as I was from the RW site (twice!), I think some of it may be because there are so many posters who don't actually work in radio but feel they know everything about it and how to do every job in radio better than the people who do work in radio.

nothing's perfect in any walk of life, and radio is no exception.

I got thrown off RW twice, as I mentioned above, and though I asked why, no reason was ever given. perhaps it was because I speak plainly about things I have a knowledge of, I don't have to offer an opinion on each & every post regardless of whether I have something constructive to say, and I don't have any time for bashing or rumours. maybe not!

I have to say the atmosphere here is far more positive, which is very refresing.

nice one

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LordSutch

I will certainly come straight out & say that Radio in Ireland leaves a lot to be desired in the Quality stakes when compared to Radio Stations from our nearest & dearest neighbours!

As mentioned in other radio threads, I recently purchased a DAB/FM radio which (when plugged into the NTL socket) gives me instant access to all the BBCs + one or two other "UK" Stations ~ & what a contrast when I compare them to the "Local" Irish stations!

BBC Radio Five has replaced Newstalk in my affections 100% = Massive jump in content quality + professionalism + no more repeats at night, no more Shop Window broadcasts, no more Crapp Adverts, and the same goes for all the Local stations which I only tune into for Local News broadcasts!

Go on, give a UK Station a Try why not, and see what you have been missing . . . . .

P.S. I also spend a Lot of time in the South of England, & I can also vouch for the Quality of most of their local stations when compared to our 'Local' stations, which seem to be stuck & stranded in some type of poor quality, second rate 'pre Nova' time warp!

Radio Nova really was a Ray of Light ~ sadly extinguished.

Paddy P

I reckon a good percentage of it is sniping by two faced colleagues of those who are targeted on these boards (and radiowaves).The negative posters are more than likely jealous of various radio people because these people have some inherent quality, be it their manner, style, voice, etc etc that the jealous colleague doesn't and will never have.

It's a sad aspect of human nature that, if you don't have it, you then must undermine someone who does. Now, not all of us are consumed with backbiting, envy, and begrudgery, but unfortunately these one dimensional characters will always exist. He or she could be sitting in the office outside or in the other studio :eek:

More Music

..... or at home, and not be working in radio but think they know it all!:D

FlutterinBantam

Lads,the way you go on you would think people shouldn't have opinions.

We fund the Radio service and are entitled to voice an opinion.

Thanks to Boards.ie this is about the only place you can do it,as expecting any reaction other than automatic replies from RTE is a waste of time.

You don't have to know everything about Radio to form an opinion!!
You people should really take off the tinted glasses and look at reality.

pirate reject

ArthurF wrote: »

I will certainly come straight out & say that Radio in Ireland leaves a lot to be desired in the Quality stakes when compared to Radio Stations from our nearest & dearest neighbours!

BBC Radio Five has replaced Newstalk in my affections 100% = Massive jump in content quality + professionalism + no more repeats at night, no more Shop Window broadcasts, no more Crapp Adverts, and the same goes for all the Local stations which I only tune into for Local News broadcasts!


P.S. I also spend a Lot of time in the South of England, & I can also vouch for the Quality of most of their local stations when compared to our 'Local' stations, which seem to be stuck & stranded in some type of poor quality, second rate 'pre Nova' time warp!

I am living in the South of England at the moment and I can honestly say that with a few notible exceptions (the BBC being one of them) the quality of radio over here can be just as erratic as at home.

I wouldn't say that there are exactly the same problems, but the quality of some of the broadcasting does leave a lot to be desired. Im not quite sure why, but I have a feeling that much of the problem is similar to that in Ireland, and that is that radio is not the well paid profession that many people see it to be, with the result that there is not a rush of talent to to the airwaves. Ironically some of the most listened to programmes on any local station tend to be those, which are syndicated from one of the big radio production companies, a common feature of local radio. This allows local radio stations to broadcast a 'big name' (if people like Myleen Klass are big names), pull in the listeners and save on paying a local presenter.

Those local presenters that do 'make it' onto local stations often suffer from the same cliche quirks that plague their Irish counterparts. The ums and ehs 'big shout outs' and dull monologues about how great they are and what great things they did last evening are just as prevelant over here as they are when I listen back in Dublin. And though I often cringe a wee bit more when I hear it at home, on reflection it is just because I expect more from those stations I am familiar with at home than those I still consider 'foreign'.

I am not for one minute excusing lazy or arogant presenting or presenters, and I am the first to recognise that there is a lot of that about. But I wonder if in many cases our critisism is a case of familiarity breeding contempt.

dulpit

Going back to the OP's original thought, i think the reason that there's more "negative" posts than "positive" is that we as human beings are far more likely to vent about what we dislike than we are to praise what we do...

You're not likely to post here telling people that you enjoy listening to a certain radio show, are you?

FlutterinBantam

Aul Fulton Crown just did.

Toto Wolfcastle

More Music wrote: »

..... or at home, and not be working in radio but think they know it all!:D

I'm actually sick of hearing people say this. You don't need to have experience in radio to be able to form and opinion. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. None of us have experience of presenting the Late Late Show and there's no problem when we slate that.

Rented Mule

I have often been critical of the state of radio here in Ireland. I often find myself looking forward to going back to Chicago and listening to the diversity of the dial offered in my hometown.

The truth of the matter.......it is almost (mind you I did say almost) as bad there these days.

I blame the state of the music industry more than anything else.

Radio is just a reflection of what they (the music industry) have to offer.

DMC

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

You don't have to know everything about Radio to form an opinion!!
You people should really take off the tinted glasses and look at reality.

I agree. As listeners, we are the ones who have to listen to the output.

We are the audience.

Just because the vast majority of posters here do not work in the industry, doesn't mean we don't have the right to argue, agree and disagree with each other here, or to be dismissed as clueless heathens.

The posters on boards (or radiowaves for that matter) are a small, but vocal source of feedback to radio stations.

People will slag a station or a presenter, and people will stand up for that station or presenter. Some stations and presenters get more volume here than others.

MarkN

DMC wrote: »

The posters on boards (or radiowaves for that matter) are a small, but vocal source of feedback to radio stations.

You would be very wrong however to assume that what's posted on any website is taken seriously by people in management in stations. Yep, presenters egos can get bruised but I have yet to meet a PD that would give two f's about what's posted on a website!

DMC

MarkN wrote: »

You would be very wrong however to assume that what's posted on any website is taken seriously by people in management in stations. Yep, presenters egos can get bruised but I have yet to meet a PD that would give two f's about what's posted on a website!

I'm under no illusions about that, that is certainly the case for any company that gets binned throughout boards.

Its feedback, weather they choose to act on it or not.

We're a little unleashed focus group