Boy Racers - Polish Style

Kintarō Hattori

Poland has developed a novel approach to dealing with boy racers by organising a monthly free-for-all round a city's ring road.
The Radio 1 Newsbeat team travelled to Lodz, where the Street Legal event is proving very popular with racers and spectators alike.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7416571.stm

Hmnnn an unusual approach alright. What do you guys think, would something like this help to solve the problem we have with boy racers or would it be more trouble than it's worth?

SV

That is one of the best ideas I've ever heard.

Love it..
It'd definitely help?

Cormic

Is there an option to sit by the side of the road and take pot shots at any cars that you don't like?

Slig

problem with boy racer cars is that they are more bark than bite, doesnt matter how much weight you add in fibreglass and spoiler down force or how big the aftermarket tail pipe is, its still a 1.0L fiesta!!! and I dont think trying to encourage a scumbag in an early 90's jap import rwd car with a big engine to drive as fast as they can is really all that clever, the cars are usually in p1ss poor shape structurally with bald tyres, home botched suspension, warped wheels and no handbrakes not to mention the fact that most have their seats adjusted so low they cant see over the dash!!

not all modified cars have boy racers behind the wheel Slig :rolleyes:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I never heard a more daft idea! Talk about pandering to the idiots that "Boy Racers" are!

Sorry but the Ring Road or any other road is there for public use within the law 24/7/365 not a race track for morons.

Cormic

hellboy99 wrote: »

not all modified cars have boy racers behind the wheel Slig :rolleyes:

Yeah. Sometimes it's a girl...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

hellboy99 wrote: »

not all modified cars have boy racers behind the wheel Slig :rolleyes:

Agreed - in the literal sense of "not all" - but you can't deny that most modified cars any of us encounter on the roads each day are driven by Boy & Girl Racers. They probaly give all drivers of modified cars a bad name but the general public can't do much about that.

Slig

not all modified cars have boy racers behind the wheel Slig

I never mentioned modified car owners, I specifically said Boy Racers!!!
There is a huge difference between a clapped out early 90's skyline with a messed up bodykit, 4 different rims and a bonnet painted a different colour in immulsion paint driven by a 17 year old with a baseball cap perched on top of his head and something presentable with a decent engine driven by somebody that knows what they are doing
(PS what does this :rolleyes: mean?)

I've a question, why is it then that the "boy racer" polish drivers (I'm not saying that all Polish drivers are boy racers) over here don't go to Mondello but instead drive like nutters on the main roads overtaking on bends :mad:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

hellboy99 wrote: »

I've a question, why is it then that the "boy racer" polish drivers (I'm not saying that all Polish drivers are boy racers) over here don't go to Mondello but instead drive like nutters on the main roads overtaking on bends :mad:

Because that's what all boy racers do. Nationality has nothing to do with it.

Slig

Slig wrote: »

I never mentioned modified car owners, I specifically said Boy Racers!!!
There is a huge difference between a clapped out early 90's skyline with a messed up bodykit, 4 different rims and a bonnet painted a different colour in immulsion paint driven by a 17 year old with a baseball cap perched on top of his head and something presentable with a decent engine driven by somebody that knows what they are doing
(PS what does this :rolleyes: mean?)

My apologies Slig

:rolleyes: (roll eyes) means sarcastic

Maggie Ancient Spanish

Maggie Ancient Spanish wrote: »

Because that's what all boy racers do. Nationality has nothing to do with it.

Thats true but on a road I frequently use 9/10 you will see PL plate cars (usually either BMW or Escorts, tinted windows, stickers etc..) coming at you round a bend on your side of the road or overtaking with traffic coming at them. Do they have a death wish

DaveyGem

Maggie Ancient Spanish wrote: »

Sorry but the Ring Road or any other road is there for public use within the law 24/7/365 not a race track for morons.

Some wouldargue that they use them as a rece track as it is...

Slig

Maybe, they feel more comfortable on that side of the road

bwardrop

Boy racers....? Not all of them... There's a Gallardo in the vid!!!!

Slig

that could well be an MR2 with a fibre glass kit:D

bwardrop

Slig wrote: »

that could well be an MR2 with a fibre glass kit:D

LOL !!! Never thought of that...

barryfitz

id say ensurance companies over here would have something to say about this. for example

you can **** off!!

kona

Slig wrote: »

There is a huge difference between a clapped out early 90's skyline ......... driven by a 17 year old with a baseball cap perched on top of his head and something presentable with a decent engine

my dear god you are the most ignorant person to post in a motors forum, of all the clapped out bangers that scumbags drive, you pick the one that is actually extremely fast and most definatly aint "clapped out"

decent engine???
i bet you €1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

the 10year old clapped out engine in any skyline would beat your car up a stick, back down then wheelspin on you bonnet:p

niceirishfella

Slig wrote: »

Maybe, they feel more comfortable on that side of the road

good post this.......post of the week for me!

cpoh1

kona wrote: »

my dear god you are the most ignorant person to post in a motors forum, of all the clapped out bangers that scumbags drive, you pick the one that is actually extremely fast and most definatly aint "clapped out"

decent engine???
i bet you €1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

the 10year old clapped out engine in any skyline would beat your car up a stick, back down then wheelspin on you bonnet:p

I was just about to say it Kona, obviously slig has more interest in boats than cars judging by his ill informed posts.

Slig just for the record, im willing to bet my house than the feat of engineering alone gone into my early 90's clapped out skyline engine tops the time spent designing all of your car. I dont know why I even bothered responding to this thread.

bwardrop

kona wrote: »

you pick the one that is actually extremely fast and most definatly aint "clapped out"...the 10year old clapped out engine in any skyline would beat your car up a stick, back down then wheelspin on you bonnet:p

Surely if an engine is 'clapped out', then it is knackered regardless of the car it is in... I reckon this is what Slig meant - not that all R32's are slow. An R32 with a 'clapped out' engine will go nowhere fast!

cpoh1

bwardrop wrote: »

Surely if an engine is 'clapped out', then it is knackered... I reckon this is what Slig meant - not that all R32's are slow. An R32 with a 'clapped out' engine will go nowhere fast!

He probably thought that because the 6 cylinder engine in the R32 sounded nothing like his 1.4L focus it must be clapped out

DamoDLK

The emphasis is attached to the stigma of driving one, they are percieved by most people to be a 'boy-racer' car. Infact any insurance company will more than likely take this view, particularly if there is a 17/18, male looking for insurance cover. However, I take the view that there does exist enthusiasts to this car, there after all is a difference between an enthusiast and a boy racer, it appears to depend on their age though.

Found one of the cars Slig is on about :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B56Q3E0g2bM

bwardrop

DamoDLK wrote: »

there after all is a difference between an enthusiast and a boy racer, it appears to depend on their age though.

This is getting a little OT, but you have to admit that the enthusiast - boy racer continuum has a significant gray area...

It is about perception though. I notice most cars on the road, and there are absolutely tons that have mods - subtle ones - that pass unnoticed to the vast majority of the general public. There are then the minority who are 'less subtle' (very PC!) who generate the negative connotations that are associated with boy racers.

Biro

2 revelations!
1 is not all Skylines are GTR's, and
2 is the 2 litre N/A Skyline isn't fast, 6 cylinder or not! Witnessed an R33 Skyline 2 litre V6 balls out and couldn't close the gap to a G40 Polo!

DamoDLK

That video was friggin deadly!!!!!

CPG

kona wrote: »

my dear god you are the most ignorant person to post in a motors forum, of all the clapped out bangers that scumbags drive, you pick the one that is actually extremely fast and most definatly aint "clapped out"

decent engine???
i bet you €1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

the 10year old clapped out engine in any skyline would beat your car up a stick, back down then wheelspin on you bonnet:p

Dont know much about Skylines do you ?

Cormic

hellboy99 wrote: »

Found one of the cars Slig is on about

Priceless. I was crying with laughter.

Slig

2L early 90's skyline with a clapped out engine is not a feat of engineering, its a ball of sh1te those interrested in performance will buy the 2.5, those interrested in a RWD that looks like a sports car will buy the cheapest piece of crap around.
Touched a nerve there KONA, how do you wear your baseball cap?

kona

Biro wrote: »

2 revelations!
1 is not all Skylines are GTR's, and
2 is the 2 litre N/A Skyline isn't fast, 6 cylinder or not! Witnessed an R33 Skyline 2 litre V6 balls out and couldn't close the gap to a G40 Polo!

fair enough the GT-R is extremely fast is what i ment to say, the others wouldnt be the slowest things on 4 wheels

i know thats why i said "take ANY skyline"

i know the 2 litre N/A isnt too quick, but id be still willing to bet it would piss all over a diesel passat or the like:D

kona

Slig wrote: »

2L early 90's skyline with a clapped out engine is not a feat of engineering, its a ball of sh1te those interrested in performance will buy the 2.5, those interrested in a RWD that looks like a sports car will buy the cheapest piece of crap around.
Touched a nerve there KONA, how do you wear your baseball cap?

to the side, like the fresh price of bel air.

but when i am driving i dont wear a sssssshchap.

i dont think you could call a skyline clapped out, now there is a vauxhall nova around my way (not a GSi) thats a clapped out sh!tter, and the bloke thinks its a ferrari!

Biro

kona wrote: »

fair enough the GT-R is extremely fast is what i ment to say, the others wouldnt be the slowest things on 4 wheels

i know thats why i said "take ANY skyline"

i know the 2 litre N/A isnt too quick, but id be still willing to bet it would piss all over a diesel passat or the like:D

To be fair, the 2 litre is fairly dismal. Around 153bhp in a car the weight of the skyline - they aren't all that light. It wouldn't take much to piss on a 1.9 105bhp Passat but a 170 would walk away from the 2 litre skyline.

Slig

Fair nuff, thats what I meant, (Seen a 90 skyline in town at lunch with desperate camber on the wheels from a home made lowering job, thats why it was a skyline I put in)

Slig

Fair nuff, thats what I meant, (Seen a 90 skyline in town at lunch with desperate camber on the wheels from a home made lowering job, thats why it was a skyline I put in)

BeardyGit

kona wrote: »

to the side, like the fresh price of bel air.

but when i am driving i dont wear a sssssshchap.

i dont think you could call a skyline clapped out, now there is a vauxhall nova around my way (not a GSi) thats a clapped out sh!tter, and the bloke thinks its a ferrari!

That's awfully sad. Poor illiterate gob****e can't even read the name badge on his car and you go making fun of him on the interweb.

Sam Kade

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boy+racer
7 definitions of boy racers.

Slig

Someone who thinks its clever to spend £5,000 tarting up a £50 piece of crap that is one MOT away from the junk yard, fit it with a stereo pumping out more power than the engine, remove the suspension, destroying what little handling ability it had, and a set of wheels that look like rejects for the London Eye. The exhaust must look like it's been robbed off an F15 Eagle. I have yet to find out what mod they do to the drivers seat to make them all drive canted over to the left like their spine is buggered.
Most Nova SR's

Absolute genious!!!:D

cpoh1

Slig wrote: »

Fair nuff, thats what I meant, (Seen a 90 skyline in town at lunch with desperate camber on the wheels from a home made lowering job, thats why it was a skyline I put in)

Most sports cars run slight negative camber Slig, the honda s2000 is just one example.

Ive never in my life heard of homemade suspension jobs please elaborate. You can however get coilovers for skylines, mine for example has Tein coilovers with EDA costing over €1000, you can adjust the damping and spring stiffness electroncially from inside the cabin. Also Slig the 2L six cylinder engine in a standard R32 run of the mill skyline has over 200hp with lots of room to play with, double wishbone suspension all round and better spec than most new cars today.

What type of car are you driving?

cianclarke

cpoh1 wrote: »

I was just about to say it Kona, obviously slig has more interest in boats than cars judging by his ill informed posts.

Slig just for the record, im willing to bet my house than the feat of engineering alone gone into my early 90's clapped out skyline engine tops the time spent designing all of your car. I dont know why I even bothered responding to this thread.

Jesus, is Skyline your religion? Tóg go bog é...

S.I.R

nobody in ireland can tune cars, they either come to me or go to england.


regardless of what car or drivetrain you have, with enough money you can make a respectablke car.... but haven said that im only repsonceable for the performance not the looks so yeah, if you have a fiesta with a veilside bodykit.... not my fault

cpoh1

cianclarke wrote: »

Jesus, is Skyline your religion? Tóg go bog é...

No but I do have an interest in cars and have the intelligence to see past cliches and ignorant misconceptions, my interest in cars starts with the engineering behind them with comfort and aesthetics coming second. Most people on here (I swear im not talking about you Slig) couldnt differentiate their arse from their elbow never mind understand the work and feat of engineering that goes into cars like the Skyline.

S.I.R

cpoh1 wrote: »

No but I do have an interest in cars and have the intelligence to see past cliches and ignorant misconceptions, my interest in cars starts with the engineering behind them with comfort and aesthetics coming second. Most people on here (I swear im not talking about you Slig) couldnt differentiate their arse from their elbow never mind understand the work and feat of engineering that goes into cars like the Skyline.

the skyline is a decent car but as shown , the newwer models such as the R34/35 are too heavy, with a rear set-up , if you Know what your doing you can extract 700 hp out of the engine cheapish.... then you just ligthen, 2 way diff and a decent set of tyres.

but the skyline engine is Very highly strung though on stock internals it can be brought up .5 of a psi if a front mounted cooler or some kinda cold air induction is devised.

skylines HATE head gaskets.

cpoh1

S.I.R wrote: »

nobody in ireland can tune cars, they either come to me or go to england.

What company do you work for SIR? What type of rollers do you ahve, what software do you specialise in?

Pretty sweeping statement considering the level of tune and reliablity of Robbie at Trackday Performances Skyline? Ive never heard of a headgaske problems on a skyline either?

BeardyGit

cpoh1 wrote: »

What company do you work for SIR? What type of rollers do you ahve, what software do you specialise in?

Pretty sweeping statement considering the level of tune and reliablity of Robbie at Trackday Performances Skyline? Ive never heard of a headgaske problems on a skyline either?

They come to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRr-sNlddRo

S.I.R

cpoh1 wrote: »

What company do you work for SIR? What type of rollers do you ahve, what software do you specialise in?

Pretty sweeping statement considering the level of tune and reliablity of Robbie at Trackday Performances Skyline? Ive never heard of a headgaske problems on a skyline either?

i work off my own back , i tune with spanners and yeah , its a dyeing trade... nobody can do it anymore, everyone Has to use computers ( i generally use them as a last resort ) but yeah , skylines there ok pretty over rated , also nobody has heard these reports mainly because of the simple fact that they very rarely get pushed , they might get a 4-6 k launch from the lights but thats it.

skylines do hate headgaskets though... the engin e is very highly strung... and it needs to be , the favorite model ( the r34 ) is 1500 kg without the driver and usual crap... thats the same as a toyota chaser. its basically tom cruises ego....


i dont doubt anyones tuning ability, but for all-round driving, i couldnt use a skyline , i'd Have to buy a bmw or a toyota. No two ways about it im afraid.... though classics peugeots are a nice alternitive.

cpoh1

S.I.R wrote: »

i work off my own back , i tune with spanners and yeah , its a dyeing trade... nobody can do it anymore, everyone Has to use computers ( i generally use them as a last resort ) but yeah , skylines there ok pretty over rated , also nobody has heard these reports mainly because of the simple fact that they very rarely get pushed , they might get a 4-6 k launch from the lights but thats it.

skylines do hate headgaskets though... the engin e is very highly strung... and it needs to be , the favorite model ( the r34 ) is 1500 kg without the driver and usual crap... thats the same as a toyota chaser. its basically tom cruises ego....


i dont doubt anyones tuning ability, but for all-round driving, i couldnt use a skyline , i'd Have to buy a bmw or a toyota. No two ways about it im afraid.... though classics peugeots are a nice alternitive.

You are a keyboard warrior simple as that. There are enough holes in some of the statements you have just made to sink the titanic.

How the hell do you tune a car without an ecu and computer unless its from the 80's and on carbs or else just advance the timing manually? Have you never seen a drifting event, skylines and sr20 engined cars make up 90% of the machines used, there's hardly a more stressful thing you can do to an engine and ive never heard of a head gasket going on a drift car! Anyway this is going off topic, SIR keep dreaming boy!

BeardyGit

I wouldn't let you tune a fork. Even with your bag of spanners.

peasant

Is it the weather or what ?

Second thread today that's miles off topic and heading towards fisticuffs.

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