Whats The Chance Of The Irish Channels Being Taken Off Sky Soon??

Hero Of College

When DTT is rolled out, will this happen as a matter of course?? As Sky don't technically charge us for the Irish Channels, is there a chance that we could end up with SKY1, 2, 3 and the usual suspects???:eek:

Tony

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Hero Of College

Tony wrote: »

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...whats your basis for this view? I know RTE were signed up but I also heard that the contract could end soon.

Tony

Hero Of College wrote: »

I also heard that the contract could end soon.

Heard from whom?

Hero Of College

Tony wrote: »

Heard from whom?

I think someone on here said it...that the contract was due up or past-due up.

watty

They will do a new contract.
Probably very similar secret terms.

Yes, it is rumoured to be a 5 year contract... I don't think anything obvious will change.

Hero Of College

watty wrote: »

They will do a new contract.
Probably very similar secret terms.

Yes, it is rumoured to be a 5 year contract... I don't think anything obvious will change.

Why the Hush-Hush??? I mean........its OUR station, supposedly....Now....I would be installing SKY regardless, but I don't want to go the SKY route if I am losing the Irish.

Cheers:cool:

watty

Actually RTE is answerable only to the RTE Authority, not BCI. They may get the licence fee (TV tax) and may have a public service remit, but it's not ours in any direct sense.

BCI and RTE Authority to be merged into new agency that RTE will be accountable to.

RTE is (a) Not very transparent (c.f. current DTT secret activity) and (b) the RTE /Sky contract would be commercially sensitive for both parties. But RTE have always claimed the Sky deal was very good for Licence payers because it costs RTE nothing (in encryption, carriage or EPG. RTE pay for their own uplink, a capex possibly of 300,000).

Anyway, you will get RTE on TV aerial in Digital soon, likely. I'd not let it influence getting Sky Pay TV. Though extremely unlikely any change in new contract.

Hero Of College

watty wrote: »

Actually RTE is answerable only to the RTE Authority, not BCI. They may get the licence fee (TV tax) and may have a public service remit, but it's not ours in any direct sense.

BCI and RTE Authority to be merged into new agency that RTE will be accountable to.

RTE is (a) Not very transparent (c.f. current DTT secret activity) and (b) the RTE /Sky contract would be commercially sensitive for both parties. But RTE have always claimed the Sky deal was very good for Licence payers because it costs RTE nothing (in encryption, carriage or EPG. RTE pay for their own uplink, a capex possibly of 300,000).

Anyway, you will get RTE on TV aerial in Digital soon, likely. I'd not let it influence getting Sky Pay TV. Though extremely unlikely any change in new contract.

Hmmmm....what do you call "soon"...a year??? Sorry to be so pesky. I don't mind DTT, but the thought of having to switch between the AV and the Tele is just a pain the arse. For €11 a month I would, as you suggest, persevere with Sky. Thanks.

SkepticOne

RTE think they are getting a good deal from Sky but another way of looking at it is that Sky are getting RTE content for nothing. The presence of RTE on the Sky platform makes Sky a lot more attractive than Sky without RTE, particularly now that the UK terrestrials are FTA, yet they are paying nothing to RTE. Well done Murdoch!

Antenna

SkepticOne wrote: »

RTE think they are getting a good deal from Sky but another way of looking at it is that Sky are getting RTE content for nothing.

the same could be said for carriage on cable/MMDS. UPC don't have to pay RTE anything either (several years ago the cable companies did have to pay something to RTE! - but this was abolished).

When DTT is rolled out there isn't any more of a likelyhood of RTE being pulled from Sky as there would be of RTE being pulled from the cable and MMDS operators (though the possibility of RTE also being available with some type of FTV scheme on satellite is another debate)

SkepticOne

Antenna wrote: »

(though the possibility of RTE also being available with some type of FTV scheme on satellite is another debate)

Highly unlikely also given that RTE think they are getting a good deal from Sky.

Dr.Mark

it makes logical sense that RTE will depart SKY, just like the others. Once DTT is up and running, RTE will have no use for SKY.

With DTT boxes and FTA, it's hard to see any reason for SKY, other than soccer. Which is little reason at all.

byte

Dr.Mark wrote: »

it makes logical sense that RTE will depart SKY, just like the others. Once DTT is up and running, RTE will have no use for SKY.

With DTT boxes and FTA, it's hard to see any reason for SKY, other than soccer. Which is little reason at all.

Well, one significant reason for RTE to stay on Sky, would be perhaps the fact that DTT will not have 100% national coverage, nearer to 90% if not less, at best.

SkepticOne

While I feel that RTE should never have done such a deal with Sky (at least without payment) are pretty much forced to continue with it as there would be an outcry from Sky subscribers if RTE removed their content from the Sky platform.

givecredit

Dr.Mark wrote: »

it makes logical sense that RTE will depart SKY, just like the others. Once DTT is up and running, RTE will have no use for SKY.

With DTT boxes and FTA, it's hard to see any reason for SKY, other than soccer. Which is little reason at all.

Commercial suicide come to mind when I read this. Why would RTE cut themselves off from god knows how many 000s of sky subscribers. Many new build houses today dont even have a tv aerial.

watty

Dr.Mark wrote: »

it makes logical sense that RTE will depart SKY, just like the others. Once DTT is up and running, RTE will have no use for SKY.

With DTT boxes and FTA, it's hard to see any reason for SKY, other than soccer. Which is little reason at all.

No.

RTE is on Cable as "must carry". They regard Satellite as a kind of wireless cable.

Also they will only have 80% DTT coverage (TV3 has a shade less than 80% now).

So it makes Logical Sense that the status quo will be maintained. RTE can't afford their own satellite encryption nor can they afford FTA rights.

There are over 400,000 households that may not have an aerial in operation and have Sky. Sky has nearly 460,000 subscribers. About 1/3rd of viewers.

RTE arn't stupid and won't shoot off their own feet.

IT Loser

Dr.Mark wrote: »

it makes logical sense that RTE will depart SKY, just like the others. Once DTT is up and running, RTE will have no use for SKY.

With DTT boxes and FTA, it's hard to see any reason for SKY, other than soccer. Which is little reason at all.

And with Setanta offering a better platform of Sports for less money {though that could change, greedy barstewards} there may be no reason at all. Tell you the truth, outside of the SKY+ and the Irish Channels...I can see no need for Sky.

IT Loser

givecredit wrote: »

Commercial suicide come to mind when I read this. Why would RTE cut themselves off from god knows how many 000s of sky subscribers. Many new build houses today dont even have a tv aerial.

Well certainly a lof of apartments have no aerial, and the rabbits ears will only get you so far.

Nothingbetter2d

DTT is up n running.... I can tune in to 6 irish digital tv channels & 8 irish digital radio stations from mount leinster in carlow... its Oireactas Tv, HD test, RTE 1, & 2, TV3, & TG4. All you need to get them (and its perfect quaility sound and picture) is a UHF aerial placed up in your attic aim at your nearest RTE transmitter and either a DVB-T set top box (get them in Argos) or a DVB-T tv card for your pc

watty

The existing 13 sites give 77% DTT coverage. 188 HYPOTHETICAL Transmitters (some on existing sites) needed to get 95% coverage.

We won't be losing RTE on Sky anytime soon.

It's not likely that the UK DTT setboxes will have much future here.

Hero Of College

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

DTT is up n running.... I can tune in to 6 irish digital tv channels & 8 irish digital radio stations from mount leinster in carlow... its Oireactas Tv, HD test, RTE 1, & 2, TV3, & TG4. All you need to get them (and its perfect quaility sound and picture) is a UHF aerial placed up in your attic aim at your nearest RTE transmitter and either a DVB-T set top box (get them in Argos) or a DVB-T tv card for your pc

Would putting it on the roof/chimney have the same effect, and can I splitter it for two boxes the same way as I would use a QUAD Lnb??

Thanks.

barnicles

Is Oireactas Tv on DTT?

Does anyone know when DTT will be available from mullighanish?

icdg

watty wrote: »

Actually RTE is answerable only to the RTE Authority, not BCI. They may get the licence fee (TV tax) and may have a public service remit, but it's not ours in any direct sense.

BCI and RTE Authority to be merged into new agency that RTE will be accountable to.

RTE is (a) Not very transparent (c.f. current DTT secret activity) and (b) the RTE /Sky contract would be commercially sensitive for both parties. But RTE have always claimed the Sky deal was very good for Licence payers because it costs RTE nothing (in encryption, carriage or EPG. RTE pay for their own uplink, a capex possibly of 300,000).

Anyway, you will get RTE on TV aerial in Digital soon, likely. I'd not let it influence getting Sky Pay TV. Though extremely unlikely any change in new contract.

Off topic, but the whole thing RTÉ pedals about the RTÉ Authority being some sort of seperate body is nonsense. The RTÉ Authority IS the legal entity that is Radio Telefís Éireann. The rest of RTÉ are legally employees of the RTÉ Authority. What will happen if the Broadcasting Bill 2008 is enacted as currently stands is that the BCI will be wound up and its powers transfered to a new Broadcasting Authority of Ireland. RTÉ will still exist but will be described as a "board" rather than "authority", and will be answerable to the BAI in the same manner that programme contractors are. Except they won't be able to take away its licence...

Back on topic, and no, I doubt you'll see much if any change in the status of RTÉ on Sky, unless the two have a major falling out over the contract terms.

Tony

The guys on the terrestrial forum would know more about this.

barnicles wrote: »

Is Oireactas Tv on DTT?

Does anyone know when DTT will be available from mullighanish?