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"Begrudgers"

  • 22-05-2008 3:44am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭


    First of all, is this a real word? What I want to know is why this word ALWAYS comes up in discussion about anything to do with Irish life, politics, or even building roads or the Metro or whatever. If you google it, on the first page of results, most of the results have something to do with Ireland or Irish people. Can we ban the word? Like when you try to say **** on this you just get stars? Please?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    But we ARE begrudgers :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    First of all, is this a real word? What I want to know is why this word ALWAYS comes up in discussion about anything to do with Irish life, politics, or even building roads or the Metro or whatever. If you google it, on the first page of results, most of the results have something to do with Ireland or Irish people. Can we ban the word? Like when you try to say **** on this you just get stars? Please?
    are you begrudging me my use of the word begrudger? :eek:

    your such a *********!
    oh noes!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Nerin wrote: »
    are you begrudging me my use of the word begrudger? :eek:

    your such a *********!
    oh noes!

    Excellent, prompt customer service, it's gone already, bunch of f**king ********* f**king ****s!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭gogglebok


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    First of all, is this a real word? What I want to know is why this word ALWAYS comes up in discussion about anything to do with Irish life, politics, or even building roads or the Metro or whatever. If you google it, on the first page of results, most of the results have something to do with Ireland or Irish people. Can we ban the word? Like when you try to say **** on this you just get stars? Please?

    "To begrudge" has been around since 1362. On "begrudger", the OED says this:

    Now chiefly Irish English.

    [< BEGRUDGE v. + -ER suffix1.]

    A resentful and dissatisfied person; a habitual naysayer or complainer.
    (In quot. 1876, a poetic personification of a mythological deity.)

    1876 W. MORRIS Sigurd II. 98 Loki, the World's Begrudger, who maketh all labour vain. 1953 Indiana (Pa.) Evening Gaz. 11 Mar. 6/4 You're probably already begrudging the time you'll have to spend caring for the lawn. If you're a begrudger, there's glad news for you. 1977 J. JOHNSTON Shadows on our Skin (1991) 79 My mother, God rest her, was no begrudger. 2006 Irish Times (Nexis) 21 Jan. (Mag. section) 16 The begrudgers give out about the prices, but Italian food doesn't get any better than this.

    *

    As to why it's used so much, it seems to me it's often used to disarm a criticism of something Irish without actually answering it. You think Boyzone are crap? Oh, you're a begrudger. As if the only reason to dislike them was that they were successful.

    On the other hand, that sense seems to be falling out of use. Maybe we're growing out of that brainless small-town patriotism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Nerin wrote: »
    are you begrudging me my use of the word begrudger? :eek:

    your such a *********!
    oh noes!

    Hey wait a minute there was already a thread on this where I said the same thing... hmmm....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Can we ban the word? Like when you try to say **** on this you just get stars? Please?
    Add a feature request ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    What I want to know is why this word ALWAYS comes up in discussion about anything to do with Irish life, politics, or even building roads or the Metro or whatever.

    It's because we are begrudgers, other nations give praise and a pat on the back to the successful ones, we tend to ask things like "yeah well, what about the time I did X" or "the time you did Y" (where X= a good thing and Y = a bad thing).

    As the joke goes:
    An American-man was walking along one day and came to the gates of a large house on the top of a hill, looking up he said "someday I'll own that place".
    An Irish-man was walking along the road later that day, came to the gates, looked up and said "someday I'll get that f*cker!".

    A sad reflection upon our society but certainly not lacking in accuracy in my oppinion.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    First of all, is this a real word?
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/begrudge


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