Experience With Irish people

LaVidaLoca

So in the interest of balance.

How many of you have been treated badly, spat at, insulted or vomited on by a member of the "Irish" community?

RedXIV

I've done work on doors so i've pretty much had that from EVERY community

Rb

Oh for the love of God. We discuss bad things that Irish people do on a regular basis here, there's no need for some shíte thread in order to "balance" AH on 20/05/08.

javaboy

Feckin' Gaeltacht b@stards and they're 50p fines for a bit of Béarla!

Yes for treated badly, insulted and spat at by Irish people. Never been vomited on except by a baby. Don't get me started on those sponger babies. They expect to be waited on hand and foot!

On the other hand, I've been treated well at some stage by people of just about every race,creed, colour and nationality. Except Roma, Irish travellers and English travellers.

Affable

LaVidaLoca wrote: »

So in the interest of balance.

How many of you have been treated badly, spat at, insulted or vomited on by a member of the "Irish" community?

I've encountered good natured stuff only from the Irish, great bunch of lads.

Blisterman

Not exactly a fair comparison to the other poll.

You're asking have people "ever" had this from an Irish person, which obviously, seeing as most people here have encountered thousands of Irish people, has a high possability.

The other poll was asking "What is your general experience been like, with regards to Roma people".

There's a big difference.

LaVidaLoca

the riduclousness of the below thread.

Most of the crime, violence and bad stuff I have experienced in my life has been commited by Irish people. This could be something to do with me living in Ireland, but still, dem feckin' Oirish bastards.

javaboy

LaVidaLoca wrote: »

the riduclousness of the below thread.

Most of the crime, violence and bad stuff I have experienced in my life has been commited by Irish people. This could be something to do with me living in Ireland, but still, dem feckin' Oirish bastards.

+1

I can honestly say that Eskimos are the nicest people in the world because I have never been insulted by one.

Captain Darling

I've worked in various positions involving customer service/sales and have found that people in general can be a shower of bar stewards, doesnt necessarily have to be an ethnic grouping/nationality/etc. I've been spat at, stuff chucked in over a counter at me, verbally abused, intimidated, death threats (yes), unwanted sexual advances/requests from both sexes and various other pleasant experiences.

Rb

LaVidaLoca wrote: »

the riduclousness of the below thread.

Most of the crime, violence and bad stuff I have experienced in my life has been commited by Irish people. This could be something to do with me living in Ireland, but still, dem feckin' Oirish bastards.

Maybe that's because there's a few MILLION Irish people in the country and only a handful of Romas in comparison, ever think about that? Did that ever go through your brain or were you distracted by a shiny object when compiling this farce?

Those travellers control the drug!Eleventy1111111110000001010101!

javaboy

rb_ie wrote: »

Maybe that's because there's a few MILLION Irish people in the country and only a handful of Romas in comparison, ever think about that? Did that ever go through your brain or were you distracted by a shiny object when compiling this farce?

Wow that went right over your head Rb_ie didn't it. They're making the same point you are making.

Overheal

Strange poll. No Atari Jaguar. No 'meh'. And why would a non-Irish person respond to a question about Irish people in Irish slurr?

Rb

javaboy wrote: »

Wow that went right over your head Rb_ie didn't it. They're making the same point you are making.

No. Just no, javaboy.

Abi

Nobody claimed the Irish were angels. Our own filth is more than enough imo.

Ruu_Old

Flippin' spud eaters!

We're better than everyone and loved by everyone.

Dudess

LaVidaLoca wrote: »

So in the interest of balance.

It's not remotely balanced. Obviously you're just taking the piss but you're still making an argument via comparison and you don't have much of an argument when the two aren't comparable. Roma - a community; Ireland - a country/bunch of communities.

LaVidaLoca wrote: »

Most of the crime, violence and bad stuff I have experienced in my life has been commited by Irish people.

We're not talking about the fact that we've all experienced so much crime, violence and bad stuff, we're talking about what our general experiences with Roma gypsies have been. Those who have had positive experiences are invited to join in if they wish.

This could be something to do with me living in Ireland, but still, dem feckin' Oirish bastards.

Indeed it could... in fact it is.

Xavi6

javaboy wrote: »

Feckin' Gaeltacht b@stards and they're 50p fines for a bit of Béarla!

People got sent home from mine for that :mad: (not me though)

I tells ya we're better off with all them foreigners in the country to bring us up.

Jumpy

Not many bad irish people around. Yiz are generally unreliable and think you are better than you are, but all in all a good bunch.

monkeyfudge

I've only ever been stabbed once and it was an Irish person who did it!

Jigsaw

There will be a proportion of Irish who are lovely folk, a portion who are cnuts. Same goes for British people, French people, German people, Tunisian people.

However, it seems to me that Roma are cnuts and I must maintain that view until someone shows me an exception to the rule.

LaVidaLoca

Maybe that's because there's a few MILLION Irish people in the country and only a handful of Romas in comparison, ever think about that? Did that ever go through your brain or were you distracted by a shiny object when compiling this farce?

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Rb

Where's that proper rolleyes smiley when you need it? That blue yoke just doesn't make the cut.

My father owns a pub.About 10 years ago.There was atinker convoy that pulled into our village and swarmed into our pub.They had been at a funeral.We tried to close the doors but they pushed my father to the ground.They demanded we give them half price beer or that they would torch the place.The guards were rang but of course when they arrived and seen 200 tinkers in a bar.They stayed in their cars.While my parents were busy in the bar trying to control them.I was in the house part of the kitchen,noticed their kids had snook into our back garden.They tried to steal tools.

I went out and tried to stop them.I was only about 10.Managed to make sure they didn.t steal anything else by staying out there.This was reported to the guards sitting outside.Yet again.They did nothing.

At 4AM.They decided to leave having got the parting gift of 3 slabs of Bulmers and they went off on their drunken way.Yet again,the guards did nothing about the tinkers drink driving.

All in all. They caused 2000 pounds damage,most of the glasses in the bar broken due to the fact that when they finished their drink. They smashed it.

This is one of many reasons why I think that Travellers are down there with the Romas.

Slow Motion

A poor attempt at humour/sarcasm/balance, but then being Irish maybe I'm biased!

Jigsaw

Deleted User wrote: »

My father owns a pub.About 10 years ago.There was atinker convoy that pulled into our village and swarmed into our pub.They had been at a funeral.We tried to close the doors but they pushed my father to the ground.They demanded we give them half price beer or that they would torch the place.The guards were rang but of course when they arrived and seen 200 tinkers in a bar.They stayed in their cars.While my parents were busy in the bar trying to control them.I was in the house part of the kitchen,noticed their kids had snook into our back garden.They tried to steal tools.

I went out and tried to stop them.I was only about 10.Managed to make sure they didn.t steal anything else by staying out there.This was reported to the guards sitting outside.Yet again.They did nothing.

At 4AM.They decided to leave having got the parting gift of 3 slabs of Bulmers and they went off on their drunken way.Yet again,the guards did nothing about the tinkers drink driving.

All in all. They caused 2000 pounds damage,most of the glasses in the bar broken due to the fact that when they finished their drink. They smashed it.

This is one of many reasons why I think that Travellers are down there with the Romas.

We want to be able to rely on the State to which we faithfully pay our taxes to defend us in our hour of need. That is a terrible story. I do not condone vigilanteism, but if you or your father decided to exercise some revenge, I would find it very hard to hold it against you.

If the Guards were willing to arrive in a few vans and dish out a few slaps things would be a bit different but the hierarchy of the Garda Siochana are probably scared of attracting legal action or one of these bloody independent public enquiries etc. Things would be very different if I had the reigns of power I can tell you.

Jigsaw

Jigsaw wrote: »

We want to be able to rely on the State to which we faithfully pay our taxes to defend us in our hour of need. That is a terrible story. I do not condone vigilanteism, but if you or your father decided to exercise some revenge, I would find it very hard to hold it against you.

If the Guards were willing to arrive in a few vans and dish out a few slaps things would be a bit different but the hierarchy of the Garda Siochana are probably scared of attracting legal action or one of these bloody independent public enquiries etc. Things would be very different if I had the reigns of power I can tell you.

Neither my father or I would want to attack them etc., just would have been proper order if some arrests were made or some brought to court.This happened when the equality act was brought in,i believe around 1997/98.At the time, you could be prosecuted for not serving travellers even if they were drunk.It was amended so that anybody could be refused if they were drunk or threatening to a customer or publican which means that it is easier to reject them now.

Feckin' Irish, coming over, taking our jawbs 'n' our wimmen.

kerash

LaVidaLoca wrote: »

So in the interest of balance.

How many of you have been treated badly, spat at, insulted or vomited on by a member of the "Irish" community?

What is the "Irish" community? why the quotation marks? Do you mean Irish people in general or some specific cultural group? Do I even care?

The_Minister

Good experiences and bad.
Mostly good.
Which is more than I can say for the Roma, OP.
I know that you are trying to make a point, but the only thing this thread has made me realise is that I have never had one positive interaction with one of the Roma. Ever.

Sherifu

I find them salty.

Kooli

I think there is a fair point being made by this poll.

As anyone who has done any introductory psychology or anyone interested in the roots of racism knows, we are programmed to think this way:

When someone from an 'outgroup' (i.e. a group we don't belong to) does something negative, we see them as being 'representative' of that whole group, and attribute what they did to the fact that they are from that group.
When someone from an 'outgroup' does something positive, we seem them just as an individual, and possibly as an exception to the rule. We don't take it as disproving the rule.

When someone from an 'ingroup' (i.e. the group we belong to) does something negative, we see them as just an individual who did something wrong and it has no bearing on the group they are part of.

So an Irish person who does something bad is just a b*stard himself as an individual. A roma who does something bad is a roma b*stard, and proof that they're all b*stards. A roma who comes across as nice and polite doesn't change your opinion on that, he's just the exception.

faceman

This thread should be locked. The OP is trying to incite racial hatred.

javaboy

Kooli wrote: »

I think there is a fair point being made by this poll.

As anyone who has done any introductory psychology or anyone interested in the roots of racism knows, we are programmed to think this way:

When someone from an 'outgroup' (i.e. a group we don't belong to) does something negative, we see them as being 'representative' of that whole group, and attribute what they did to the fact that they are from that group.
When someone from an 'outgroup' does something positive, we seem them just as an individual, and possibly as an exception to the rule. We don't take it as disproving the rule.

When someone from an 'ingroup' (i.e. the group we belong to) does something negative, we see them as just an individual who did something wrong and it has no bearing on the group they are part of.

So an Irish person who does something bad is just a b*stard himself as an individual. A roma who does something bad is a roma b*stard, and proof that they're all b*stards. A roma who comes across as nice and polite doesn't change your opinion on that, he's just the exception.

Oh is that how I think. Thanks for clearing that up. :rolleyes:.

Talk about generalisations :rolleyes:

Kooli

It is a generalisation, but it is based on evolutionary principles, and it is how we are programmed to think, and is totally natural.

It's the same as loads of principles in psychology, like the fact that we are more likely to notice or seek evidence that confirms what we already believe than to notice evidence that disproves it.
Like the fact that people without a sound knowledge of probabilities will not switch doors in the Monty Hall problem.
Like the fact that people are more likely to regret action than inaction if something turns out badly.
Like the fact that people who have trouble sleeping consistently underestimate how much sleep they get.
You get my point!

I'm not generally a fan of generalisations, but I don't think it's too far fetched to say there are general principles that guide how the mind works - principles that have been tested and proven.
If we DENY we think that way (because we feel guilty), than it's not as easy to combat it.

Kintarō Hattori

Well now I don't take people on a basis of where they are from or what group they may come from. I take everyone on an individual basis and judge them on their actions.

So in relation to that it would seem that you fail OP as your poll in relation to me at least FAILS.