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2030 vision

  • 19-05-2008 11:29am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭


    http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhgbcwojgbmh/

    It's as though there is a reasonable alternative. Provide proper integrated ticketing tomorrow and this could be looked at. Keep fluting about as has been done so far and this shouldn't be considered.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    could you at least quote the first paragraph of the story so the rest of us know what it's about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭egan007


    Can you change the thread title to Congestion Charge...


    "He said congestion charges had worked in London and he saw no reason why they shouldn't be introduced in Dublin."


    HE is lot looking too hard...
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭paulm17781


    Apologies, I pasted the wrong thing in the subject.

    Mods, could you change it to "Dublin transport chief backs congestion charges"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    CONGESTION CHARGING is the biggest sin of all sins if that even goes ahead in this present time


    Dublin Public transport is a joke... Therefore NO congestion charging should even be thought about until the public transport situation is fixed.


    Why are the stingy malice people behind this congestion plan are not even shot for suggesting this?/ at present Dublin looks like it can't survive without the motor car as Public transport intergration is non existant in this city. If it was there would be cars taken off the street and a bagillion times more than than the current congestion charging joke will ever do.... Deal with fixing the Public transport first. Stopp this faffing about will ye..

    Rant over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    Congestion charging works so well in the UK that the new mayor isn't extending it and is thinking of getting rid of it.rolleyes.gif

    Besides which the average speed in London has actually decreased since the C-charge was introduced, which surely defeats the whole point of it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭Chris_533976


    For once I agree with the Irish Politicians.
    Transport Minister Noel Dempsey and Environment Minister John Gormley have already said they would not support congestion charges until public transport services are improved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 de breeze


    why is this fine gentleman still pontificating on commuter traffic? His organisation has been superseded by DTA which has a board and Chairman and will hopefully soon have a statutory basis.

    We might even get our own version of Bo-Jo who would at least be directly elected and accountable....

    DTO has achieved precisely NOTHING in 20 years except preside over gridlock. They are the main inspiration behind the capital's tumbleweed bus lanes. Having published the fantasy transport plan 'Platform for Change', they promised an update about 4 years ago of which so far no sign at all.

    DTO is basically a fully resourced whinge-fest forum for the corpo, CIE and other dumbed-down agencies that make up its board. Their agenda is clear 'adopt whatever measures by whatever means that will eliminate cars from the city in the shortest possible time'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    paulm17781 wrote: »
    Mods, could you change it to "Dublin transport chief backs congestion charges"
    lol, I saw that and fixed it. Note that thread starters can edit the thread title. :)

    http://www.transport.ie/viewitem.asp?id=10616&lang=ENG&loc=2261
    Speech by Mr Noel Dempsey TD, Minister for Transport, at the Launch of Public Consultation for the new Transport Strategy for Greater Dublin Area
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    19 May 2008

    CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY

    Ladies and Gentlemen, these are exciting times for transport in the Greater Dublin Area. A new configuration of plans and institutions is emerging which will shape the development of transport in Dublin in the coming decades. The Dublin Transport Authority, once established will have the objective of delivering an integrated transport system which contributes to environmental sustainability and social cohesion and sustains economic progress.

    My Department is also preparing a new Sustainable Travel and Transport Action Plan, which will promote the development of healthy and environmentally friendly modes of transport. The forthcoming Transport Strategy for the Greater Dublin Area, which will cover the years 2010 to 2030, is a further significant component in these new arrangements, and I would like to thank the Dublin Transportation Office for inviting me to join with them in the launch of public consultation on this new strategy.

    Since its publication in 2001, the DTO's A Platform for Change has formed the basis of transport strategy in the GDA. I need hardly tell you that much has changed in the years since then.

    In the past decade, we have become the most consistently successful economy in Europe, with continued dramatic growth in our economy and in employment, and also in our population.

    This success may be gratifying, especially to those of us who remember the dire condition of the country as recently as the nineteen-eighties. If we are to remain competitive, and if we are to deliver not only sustained economic success but also the kind of society we want an inclusive society where there is a high quality of life for all then it is imperative that we address the transport challenges of today, and anticipate and prepare for the transport challenges of tomorrow.

    Over the last number of years we have spent large amounts in upgrading our transport system, through the National Development plans and my Departments Transport 21 programme. Nationally, we have delivered major upgrades to our road and rail network, while in Dublin, we have seen benefits across rail, road, luas and bus networks, details of which you are all familiar with, but if not my Department will be issuing a T21 newsletter tomorrow that you may find interesting.

    One indicator of the success that this has achieved, I am pleased to see is that the mode share for inbound public transport crossing the canal cordon in the morning peak was 51% in 2006, as against only 35% in 1997.

    The time has now come to revisit the strategic basis of transport planning in the GDA, looking beyond Transport 21. It is time to develop a new strategy which takes account of changes since A Platform for Change was drawn up, and which looks ahead to a longer-term future.

    The DTO has responded to this challenge by engaging with key stakeholders, including community and business groups, members of the Oireachtas and Local Authorities, as well as Government Departments and Agencies, to develop the outlines of a new transport strategy to cover the years 2010-2030.

    What does all that mean, well basically this consultation process is all about finding out the wider vision of the kind of transport system we need for the GDA the kind of city we want, and the question of how this vision will be transformed into reality.

    You are all very familiar with the projects that are continuosly talked about as not being in T21, such as Leinster outer orbital, Eastern bypass, various Luas and Metro projects, more buses etc& well this is the opportunity for these projects to be advanced and discussed. So lets hear about them and anything else that will deliver our goals for the GDA and Dublin city.

    Reducing congestion and emissions and encouraging greater use of public transport, cycling and walking will remain central to transport policy in the GDA. I urge all stakeholders the citizens of Dublin, transport users, business and community interests to participate in this first phase of the consultative process. I look forward with great interest to the outcome of this consultation, and I would like once again to thank the DTO for inviting me to join with them today in launching this process.

    Finally I want to make a few comments on an important topic for the future of this country.



    Lisbon/Reform Treaty

    We will invest €34 billion in our transport networks over the ten years up to 2015.

    Without any doubt, Ireland would not be a position to invest that €34 billion if it were not for our recent economic development.

    I want to acknowledge, at this point, the role that the European Union played in Ireland's ongoing development and economic success.

    For the future, the European Union remains critical to Ireland's development, allowing us open access for trade to a community of 27 Member States.

    The Government is supporting the Lisbon Treaty, with its focus on reform of this Union, as it is the best way to underpin our economic development and stability. We believe that the reform proposed in the Lisbon Treaty will enhance the Community and leave it better equipped to meet the challenges of the future and as such I would ask you all to vote YES in the referendum.

    Here's too a greener, cleaner, moving, public friendly city and a greater Dublin area that people are proud off.

    Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0520/greens.html
    Greens to launch transport strategy
    Tuesday, 20 May 2008 08:03

    The Green Party will board a bus today to launch its submission to the Government's transport strategy.

    Transport Spokesman Ciarán Cuffe will unveil a ten-point plan to promote a sustainable transport system that will reduce dependency on increasingly expensive fossil fuels.

    The proposals will be put to the Government's public consultation on sustainable travel and transport.
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    Yesterday, Transport Minister Noel Dempsey and Dublin Transportation Office director John Henry announced plans to allow commuters have a say in the future of Dublin's transportation system for the first time.

    Motorists, cyclists and pedestrians can give their views on the new strategy through the 2030 Vision.

    www.2030vision.ie

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0519/transport.html
    No Dublin city car ban until 2011
    Monday, 19 May 2008 16:30

    Minister for Transport Noel Dempsey has said a ban on private cars in Dublin city centre will not be introduced until 2011 during the run-up to the start of the Metro and Luas works.

    The head of the Dublin Transportation Office, John Henry, said he would like to see a ban made permanent and a congestion charge will also be considered.

    The DTO was today launching a public consultation process for the future of transport in Dublin up to 2030.
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    The most pressing concern now is the massive disruption that will occur once construction begins in 2011.

    Plans have been put forward on several occasions for a re-routing of private cars away from Dame Street and College Green, through Westmoreland Street and O'Connell Street.

    This will become necessary before work starts on the rail projects.

    Mr Henry cited the example of St Stephen's Green West, which has been closed to through traffic since the Luas was situated there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭paulm17781


    Victor wrote: »
    Note that thread starters can edit the thread title. :)

    I tried, it didn't let me. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    paulm17781 wrote: »
    I tried, it didn't let me. :confused:
    Strange, not to worry, I've just gone and given it a new name again. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭markf909


    de breeze wrote: »
    why is this fine gentleman still pontificating on commuter traffic? His organisation has been superseded by DTA which has a board and Chairman and will hopefully soon have a statutory basis.

    We might even get our own version of Bo-Jo who would at least be directly elected and accountable....

    DTO has achieved precisely NOTHING in 20 years except preside over gridlock. They are the main inspiration behind the capital's tumbleweed bus lanes. Having published the fantasy transport plan 'Platform for Change', they promised an update about 4 years ago of which so far no sign at all.

    DTO is basically a fully resourced whinge-fest forum for the corpo, CIE and other dumbed-down agencies that make up its board. Their agenda is clear 'adopt whatever measures by whatever means that will eliminate cars from the city in the shortest possible time'

    Hammer, nail, head.

    Listen to a clueless and shocked John Henry on Matt Cooper last night.

    http://www.radioireland.ie/lastword/1952008-18.wmv

    4 mins in. No idea of the reality on the ground, just looking for new colour crayons to paint a map of Dublin :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Renewed public consultation www.2030vision.ie


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