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Vicky Guerrero

  • 17-05-2008 5:12pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone else here hate her? I think she's a joke.She can't act and this thing with Edge is just atrocoius.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    You hate a heel character.

    Seems like Vicky is doing her job quite well so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Seems like Vicky is doing her job quite well so.

    +1, But yeah she really gets on my nerves, bad acting and that voice goes through my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭Kid Nothing


    I hate her in an X-Pac kinda way, as in i change the channel when she comes on! I know they're trying to make her someone you hate but not if it's losing you viewers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    You hate a heel character.

    Seems like Vicky is doing her job quite well so.

    There's a big difference. Like Amull said, I just turn of the TV when she's on. I watch ECW ahead of SD because of her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    I have to say that I do like her. She's come a long way from when she first appeared, and it's great to see a woman on wwe who doesn't fit into the diva mould.

    It's very unfair to put her in the x-pac category. She doesn't deserve that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭DRakE


    Cactus Col wrote:
    it's great to see a woman on wwe who doesn't fit into the diva mould.
    er, why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭hunter164


    Ah but like people have said it's not like I hate her but watch her, it's like if she comes on I will change the channel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭Kane-N-Nite


    All I hear when I watch her is : "I'm Vicky Guerrero, Blah Blah Blah La Familia Blah Blah Blah....."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭fatal


    WWE want you to hate her.She's a heel and she's doing a bloody good job at it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Tricity Bendix


    I think she does a fantastic job.
    To bad she didn't get chokeslammed on SD! That whole storyline was a let down. They built the whole show around it and then didn't give the fans any sort of payoff. I hope this means she gets it on the PPV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭ec18


    I read a spoiler that
    Kane came out and forced vickie back to the ring where she got tombstoned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Dickmcsavage


    Yes Vickie is a heel but as a few people have already mentioned here, I would rather not watch SD! because she and that storyline with Edge sucks. Mr. Kennedy is a heel that I don't particularily like but I would never change the channel when he's on.
    Kennedy = heel
    Guerrero = terrible actor / channel change inducing headwrecker!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭mehfesto2


    Yes Vickie is a heel but as a few people have already mentioned here, I would rather not watch SD! because she and that storyline with Edge sucks. Mr. Kennedy is a heel that I don't particularily like but I would never change the channel when he's on.
    Kennedy = heel
    Guerrero = terrible actor / channel change inducing headwrecker!

    Good point. HHH was a great heel years back. You'd like watching him, even though he was a heel. She could be he worst heel in a long time. Who do people think was/is the best wwf/wwe heel?

    But I agree with people's view on her voice. It's like white noise dragging it nails across a blackboard whilst singing something by Avril Lavigne.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    DRakE wrote: »
    er, why?

    Most of the divas are hot as hell. But, at this stage most of them are pretty interchangeable. May as well be watching kelly kelly as michelle mccool, as ashley, as whoever, so much so that the diva division seem bland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    There is a major difference between not liking somebody because they are meant to be a heel and not liking somebody because they simply cannot act and any scene with them in it makes you cringe, Vicky at Backlash was a prime example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭de5p0i1er


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    There is a major difference between not liking somebody because they are meant to be a heel and not liking somebody because they simply cannot act and any scene with them in it makes you cringe, Vicky at Backlash was a prime example.

    +1
    Ican't stand to see her on tv, why is she in a wheel chair anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    For someone who never before had anything to do with a mic vicky is doing a great job.The fact that she is not liked(when so many loved Eddie)shows how good she has become.you can see how much she is getting into her role and really enjoying it.
    If the fans couldn't care less they would stay silent,so the amount of BOOs she gets speaks volumes.
    Eddie would be proud of his mamacita.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Prufrock


    I think she's a good heel but the act is getting a bit stale. But she does her job well. She could never be a face!

    The angle with Edge is disturbing though....never liked it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Prufrock wrote: »
    I think she's a good heel but the act is getting a bit stale.

    Her crowd reaction doesnt say so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,005 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Prufrock wrote: »
    I think she's a good heel but the act is getting a bit stale. But she does her job well. She could never be a face!

    Her crowd reaction is getting more and more heat every week which surely means she is improving every week and is not getting stale


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    :pac:
    rovert wrote: »
    Her crowd reaction doesnt say so.

    Some would say its X-Pac heat though;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    :pac:

    Some would say its X-Pac heat though;)

    I don't agree with that. She's getting a reaction. People hate her. They shout more loudly at her than anyone else in WWE it seems. I'd call it Terry Funk heat. Or Bruiser Brody heat. Or Freddie Blassie heat. It's all the same thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Fozzy wrote: »
    I don't agree with that. She's getting a reaction. People hate her. They shout more loudly at her than anyone else in WWE it seems. I'd call it Terry Funk heat. Or Bruiser Brody heat. Or Freddie Blassie heat. It's all the same thing
    She is relishing this role and it shows,she comes across as really believing that she has total control(not the creative team)
    Go Vicky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Cactus Col wrote: »
    I have to say that I do like her. She's come a long way from when she first appeared, and it's great to see a woman on wwe who doesn't fit into the diva mould.

    It's very unfair to put her in the x-pac category. She doesn't deserve that.

    Yes she hasnt had any cosemtic surgery yet anyways

    I hate her also but that causes she is a heel and she plays her heel character so well she is probably the biggest heel in WWE at present


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 868 ✭✭✭tdv


    I don't hate this women. I hate the WWE for putting her on TV. She cant do anything. The acting is so bad I get embaressed watching her if somebody else is the room with me. It's just cring worthy promo after cringy worthy promo. It's unwatchable. They have to let her go or there going to loose ratings fast.

    And for the people who say she is doing a good job as heel I bet your DVD collections are full of films that MSTK ripped on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    tdv wrote: »
    I don't hate this women. I hate the WWE for putting her on TV. She cant do anything. The acting is so bad I get embaressed watching her if somebody else is the room with me. It's just cring worthy promo after cringy worthy promo. It's unwatchable. They have to let her go or there going to loose ratings fast.

    And for the people who say she is doing a good job as heel I bet your DVD collections are full of films that MSTK ripped on.

    Who or what is MSTK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    she's the poor mans stephanie! now she was a heel you hated but loved to hate! i dont hate vickie coz shes a heel, i hate her because she is annoying in the way she is not supposed to be....plain and simple as people have said before she cannot act!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    she's the poor mans stephanie! now she was a heel you hated but loved to hate! i dont hate vickie coz shes a heel, i hate her because she is annoying in the way she is not supposed to be....plain and simple as people have said before she cannot act!

    it is kinda the point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    rovert wrote: »
    it is kinda the point

    that she can't act and everything she says isnt believable!? i dont think so tbh!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    that she can't act

    Which they play off from if you havent noticed. It is supposed to be hammy.

    everything she says isnt believable!? i dont think so tbh!

    for example?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    rovert wrote: »
    for example?

    her angry face is like a child going "grrrr"

    and the speech about the divas was just horrible!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    her angry face is like a child going "grrrr"

    and the speech about the divas was just horrible!

    It was intentioned to be. All dialogue is written for those skits and they do multiple takes to make sure what is intented goes over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    her angry face is like a child going "grrrr"

    and the speech about the divas was just horrible!

    That was the whole point of it in the first place! She is out there to make sure you boo the hell out of her, to make sure you don't like her. She's out there to purposely get on your nerves!

    Man, some people just aren't getting this, are they?

    VR!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭mehfesto2


    I don't disagree with you about the 'hamminess' of her acting/presentation, Rovert, but I think that the fact that the WWE are fine with this, is a reason why so many people are losing interest in the SD! product. I know I am for one.

    I've no problem with this style of acting on its own, per se, but this is SD's biggest feud, I think it should be less "cheesy". I'd rather see this 'punch and judy show' on a lower mid-card. And Edge is better that this, I feel.

    Just my personal thoughts on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Look at the history of Smackdown since 2002 when they started bringing GM's in, How anyone can say Vickie is horrible after the year we had to put up with Stephanie McMahon's grating squeaky voice. Not to mention the horrible storylines involved. Signing Zack Gowan to spite Vince, a story that reeked of cheese. Even her part on the talent steal from brand to brand was so bad, that Bischoff had precious little to work with.

    By comparison, with Vickie, you've never had it so good! ;)
    VR!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭mehfesto2


    Look at the history of Smackdown since 2002 when they started bringing GM's in, How anyone can say Vickie is horrible after the year we had to put up with Stephanie McMahon's grating squeaky voice. Not to mention the horrible storylines involved. Signing Zack Gowan to spite Vince, a story that reeked of cheese. Even her part on the talent steal from brand to brand was so bad, that Bischoff had precious little to work with.

    By comparison, with Vickie, you've never had it so good! ;)
    VR!

    :D Fair cop!

    But still SD! had hardly been that enjoyable for me since about '03/'04! Maybe I'm just too serious about it, or that SD! is aimed at a younger audience, I dunno.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    mehfesto2 wrote: »
    I don't disagree with you about the 'hamminess' of her acting/presentation, Rovert, but I think that the fact that the WWE are fine with this, is a reason why so many people are losing interest in the SD! product. I know I am for one.

    I've no problem with this style of acting on its own, per se, but this is SD's biggest feud, I think it should be less "cheesy". I'd rather see this 'punch and judy show' on a lower mid-card. And Edge is better that this, I feel.

    Smackdown's ratngs sre fine considering the slip in Raws

    I agree that it hurts Edges crediblilty as a main event and he is not as "dangerous" and edgey compared to the Rated R days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 868 ✭✭✭tdv


    Who or what is MSTK?

    It short for Mystery Science Theater 3000. And I could really picture her being in one of there movies.

    The point of the matter is that this women has no right being on TV.
    It's like they took some random wierdo of the street stuck her in a wheelchair & gave her a mic.

    Like I said I don't blame the women. If someone offered me job with really good money involved that I had no experience doing I'd take it. I blame the crap writters for it. The last good storyline the WWE came up with was back in 1999. Vikki is like a symbol of what the WWE has become.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    It does and it doesn't, the second Edge kicks Vickie to the curb, provided it's done right (making sure Edge isn't turned a face in the process), and the crowd will sympathise with Vickie, Edge will "get his edge back" (bad pun, i know). ;)

    VR!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    What i would really love to know is why the f*ck can't anyone spell Vickie Guerrero correctly? It's like people who mis-spell "Micheals", it's f*ck annoying!
    tdv wrote: »
    The point of the matter is that this women has no right being on TV.
    It's like they took some random wierdo of the street stuck her in a wheelchair & gave her a mic.

    She's doing a better job of that role than Kurt Angle did a few years back. She's no Paul Heyman in the role, but for what the role is worth, she rubs the fans up the wrong way and does a great job of it, exactly the point of a heel GM does! And with all due respect, but who are you to judge if she has or has no right to be on TV? Because i'd like to see you go out there and see if you can get that kind of reaction. :)
    Like I said I don't blame the women. If someone offered me job with really good money involved that I had no experience doing I'd take it. I blame the crap writters for it. The last good storyline the WWE came up with was back in 1999. Vikki is like a symbol of what the WWE has become.

    You must have about 20 volumes of the best of Vince Russo then! Which storyline would you be refering to here exactly? Where Boss Man cooked Al Snow's dog? Bob Holly because "hardcore" hoping people would forget Bombastic Bob, or Thurman Sparky Plugg?, Billy Gunn's attempt at main event or Big Slow winning the championship belt?

    Sorry, WWE has improved a lot since then, HHH v Flair series in 05, Rey v Eddie series in 05, Shawn v Jericho program in 03 to name three good examples right there. But each to their own I guess.

    VR!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Anyone who can garner that much heat, whether intentional or not, is ok in my book. Anytime someone reports the Smackdown spoilers they say that it is so defeaning that they can barely make out what she is saying. The key issue is that the crowd are reacting and are not being silent.

    It's so disappointing that Edge won't get drafted to Raw as it would present a great scenario for the wedding. Now that he wouldn't need Vicki anymore he could dump her right in the middle of the vows. How awesome would it be if Edge started out being all nice and loving in his vows, and then it slowly descends into a hate filled speech about he was just using her and dumps her on the spot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Anyone who can garner that much heat, whether intentional or not, is ok in my book. Anytime someone reports the Smackdown spoilers they say that it is so defeaning that they can barely make out what she is saying. The key issue is that the crowd are reacting and are not being silent.

    It's so disappointing that Edge won't get drafted to Raw as it would present a great scenario for the wedding. Now that he wouldn't need Vicki anymore he could dump her right in the middle of the vows. How awesome would it be if Edge started out being all nice and loving in his vows, and then it slowly descends into a hate filled speech about he was just using her and dumps her on the spot?

    as awesome as when Triple H did the same thing 6 years ago?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I don't see the similarity. It was portrayed to look like that HHH was obviously at the end of the tether with Stephanie, I think everybody saw it coming that he was gonna humiliate her during the renewal of the vows.

    But with Edge/ Vicki, it's unpredictable as to how it will end. Something is going to ruin the wedding. Whether it be Mysterio, Undertaker, Chavo, her daughters or Edge himself it will happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I do find it funny that a little mexican woman that has only become part of the business ,in a long time onscreen capacity anyway, can garner the heat that about 80% of the locker room can only DREAM of, Sgt Slaughter in 1991 type heat that woman generates, and more power to her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    krudler wrote: »
    I do find it funny that a little mexican woman that has only become part of the business ,in a long time onscreen capacity anyway, can garner the heat that about 80% of the locker room can only DREAM of, Sgt Slaughter in 1991 type heat that woman generates, and more power to her

    Exactly. I have to commend her, and I think it's unfair to say that it is heat because she's crap. I think she has really grown into the GM Role. For instance the SD after One Night Stand, she knew when to stop and let the fans at it and she knows what vibes to send out to the crowd.


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