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Aer Lingus unions

  • 15-05-2008 10:41am
    #1
    El Stuntman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭


    story from RTE today

    not sure about the democratic structures in SIPTU - their members vote 60/40 in favour of the deal but it is still deemed 'rejected'? :confused:

    I have a few flights coming up in the next few weeks. Avoid AL I presume?


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  • #2
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,472 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Avoid like the plague.

    Give your money to a more reputable company that have the unions under control.


  • #3
    penexpers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭penexpers


    Or no unions at all.


  • #4
    dogmatix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭dogmatix


    Or even give your money to a company that has a sane and reasonable senior management who are prepared to treat their staff (and union members) reasonably?

    BMI anyone?


  • #5
    El Stuntman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    dogmatix wrote: »
    Or even give your money to a company that has a sane and reasonable senior management who are prepared to treat their staff (and union members) reasonably?

    BMI anyone?

    but....but..but....the staff majority-voted in favour of the management plan

    staff happy, management happy - oh wait, arcane union rules - let's go on strike!


  • #6
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Bond-007 wrote: »

    a more reputable company

    Why arent they a reputable company?


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  • #7
    mickoneill30
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    Avoid like the plague.

    I know of two major travel agents that follow this policy now. You can only mess their customers around so much before they give up using them. I'm sure they'll eventually end up with fantastic working conditions ... and no customers.


  • #8
    tbh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    then, and only then, will Clare Daly be happy.


  • #9
    Voipjunkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Voipjunkie


    El Stuntman wrote: »
    story from RTE today

    not sure about the democratic structures in SIPTU - their members vote 60/40 in favour of the deal but it is still deemed 'rejected'? :confused:

    I have a few flights coming up in the next few weeks. Avoid AL I presume?

    I presume the membership is divided in to different branches so for example engineering , baggage handlers, flight attendants etc so the deal may be good for the flight attendants who form a majority of the work force but bad for say engineers who would be a much lesser number than the flight attendants hence a majority vote in favour but not in each branch as such there is no agreement

    This is more democratic as it removes the ability of the employer to play one section of against the other
    So for example if the employer offered to increase the flight attendants wages and to fund this by reducing the engineers wages the majority of staff may vote for the pay rise and **** the engineers hardly fair on the engineers
    (btw this is purely for example purposes)


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