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Oireachtas Report - spot the difference

  • 14-05-2008 11:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭


    Someone here might be able to come up with an explanation for this, but there seems to be a marked difference in the picture quality for Oireachtas Report this week versus last week. The current images appear much closer to that you'd normally see on a documentary - grainier, more photorealistic I guess.

    Last week:

    2492738315_1263184131_o.jpg

    This week:
    2492738145_2c5ba1152c_o.jpg

    I don't think it's an upgrade of cameras in Leinster House, as the bits outside the Dáil with the presenters show the same difference in image quality. Different recording medium maybe?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    I saw "Drunks and Insomniacs"* Report the other night, and I cant help but think that they have done something. You've confirmed it wasn't mine eyes! :D

    The Oireachtas Channel has started on the DTT trial, using MPEG4, and the web version on the Oireachtas site is down. But I dunno if all these events are connected or not.









    * Thank you Pat Rabbitte. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭egan007


    Do i win? :p

    oreachtasxu4.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,139 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I thought it was Diddly D Higgins that used that term first, DMC?

    http://www.irlgov.ie/debates-98/2apr98/sect1.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    MYOB wrote: »
    I thought it was Diddly D Higgins that used that term first, DMC?

    http://www.irlgov.ie/debates-98/2apr98/sect1.htm

    I'd read that piece again, dude, its not Michael D, its the former Mayo TD (now MEP) Jim Higgins and he quotes Pat Rabbitte. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,139 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Damn and blast you Google.... and me early in the mornings!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    Oireachtas Report back to normal last night.

    egan007 wrote: »
    Do i win? :p

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Looks overcompressed to me. An evil MPEG4 recompression from broadcast MPEG2 instead of compressing a higher feed quality directly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I'd say they've upgraded the cameras or the setup somewhere along the line. The poorer quality screenshot looks like a 4:3 picture cropped and resized to 16:9, and the better picture is using a proper anamorphic 16:9 setup.

    A lot of news stuff on RTÉ looks like this - some of them look like analogue sources too (noticeable colour shimmering, dot crawl etc.). I guess they still have some Betacam SP camcorders still doing the rounds? Any pre-widescreen archive footage is also resized like this (sometimes with slight pillarboxing).

    In the attached picture, I cropped the better looking picture to 4:3, crapified it a bit, then cropped to 16:9 and resized back to 576 lines - looks similar to the blurry original, no? Actually I prob made it too blurry (hard to do it right without the original interlaced source)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    The Oireachtas looked poor and over compressed on the SD test channel yesterday.
    (Lyngbox as receiver off Three Rock).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Deflector


    For the past few years since the introduction of widescreen the Oireachtas facilites have been framing for 16:9 using the existing 4:3 cameras and then cropping on output. I don't think they even have guide bars as the headroom allowance has often be way over-estimated (though that could by typical sloppy Irish production standards).

    I too have noticed the cinematic sheen of late on Oireachtas Report - appearing in the past couple of months - suggesting that the Dáil facilities are/have finally being updated to 16:9 but aren't fine-tuned yet. If the case, it's certainly not before time - the cropped output has been appalling during continuous Budget events and of course Dáil coverage generally.


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