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Help with a tricky calculus question

  • 13-05-2008 6:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭


    This question has got me well and truly stumped. I've tried several things but can't work out the integral. I'm probably missing something stupid.:o

    tricky_integral.jpg

    Would anyone know how to do it?

    Thanks
    Sean


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    Did you try splitting it up into two integrals?

    Let F be your integrand. Then your question can be written as

    d/dx(integral[0 to x^2](Fdt)) + d/dx(integral[x to 0](Fdt)

    then the fundemental theorem of calculus should work after a change of variables


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    I'm not quite sure I understand you, what should I be changing the variables to?

    For the FTC to work, shouldn't it be differentiation and integration with respect to the same variable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    d/dx(integral[0 to x^2](Fdt)):

    set u = x^2
    then d/dx(integral[0 to x^2](Fdt)) = (d/du(integral[0 to u](Fdt)))*du/dx

    or 2x*F(u), which is equal to 2x*F(x^2)


    d/dx(integral[x to 0](Fdt):

    same as -1*d/dx(integral[0 to x](Fdt) = -F(x)
    For the FTC to work, shouldn't it be differentiation and integration with respect to the same variable?

    well, it's the same principle as this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorem_of_calculus#First_part


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael Collins


    Yeh that integral isn't solvable in terms of elementary functions like sin and cos. However, since you don't actually need to find an anti-derivative you don't need to actually solve the integral, just apply the chain rule.

    e.g. let F(t) be the anti-derivative of your integrand f(t). So then the definate integral becomes:

    F(u2) - F(u1) (where u2 and u1 are the upper and lower limits respectively)

    but you want the derivative of this so

    F'(x^2).2x - F'(x) ...by the chain rule

    f(x^2).2x-f(x) ...where this is your integrand function, just with respect to t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Gotcha, wraps up neatly (I had gone and tried to solve the integral...things got messy), thanks a mil for the help.

    Hopefully it'll come up in my exam on thurs now:p


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