PS3 without high definition tv ?

MooseJam

Has anyone out there got a PS3 without a high def telly ? can you even use it without a high def telly and would it really matter that much anyway, would it be a bad buy without a high def telly ?

Kintarō Hattori

There are plenty of people on here who are enjoying the delights of a PS3 without a HD television. Obviously you're missing out on the complete experience but it can be done! Graphically it still looks excellent, if your coming from a PS2. Yes you are missing out big time but as I said you can still enjoy it without a HDTV.

bandit197

MooseJam wrote: »

Has anyone out there got a PS3 without a high def telly ? can you even use it without a high def telly and would it really matter that much anyway, would it be a bad buy without a high def telly ?

I had no high def telly when I first got mine and it was fine. Of course a high def tv looks better but a standard tv is perfectly playable. Its not a bad buy at all without a high def, prices are coming down for tvs every week too so in a few months you will be able to get a good high def tv for under 500

Dues Bellator

i play mine on standard def no complaints, as the post above me says the prices are coming down all the time, as soon as a 1080 p 42 inch comes down to a grand im in, cant help feeling hard done by with the sd, i know it can be so much better, mate of mine has a hdtv and the difference is huge when you play for a couple of hours ,peats in rathmines are doing 42 inch 1080 p panisonic for 1200 at the mo and the guy said [wont mention his name] if i can wait 2 or 3 mths the price is going to drop to around 800 euros , fair play to him and im going to make sure he gets the commision when i do get it there.

MooseJam

I've got a 26 inch monitor that does 1900*1200 could I connect a ps3 to it ? looking at the inputs it's got the one my pc is connected to, an s-video and then there is a group of small connections - green blue red and yellow ? it's a dell

K.O.Kiki

You can connect via S-video or Y-Pb-Pr component; IIRC you will be limited to 480p (or maybe it's 576i/p).
For full resolution gameplay you'd want a HDMI-to-DVI connector, and possibly a DVI switch.

Niall0

component (red green blue) would limit you to 720p youd need hdmi or dvi for 1080p whats the max resolution for VGA?

ongarite

Basically PS3 was not designed to be connected to monitor. A TV, preferably HDTV is its favoured display medium.

If you do try to connect PS3 to PC monitor, it doesn't support VGA output at all. It will support component output up to 1080i.
It will connect using HDMI/DVI connection IF the monitor supports HDCP protocol. If it doesn't you are getting nothing on screen at all.

MooseJam

looked it up and it has D-Sub and DVI, and also Composite, S-Video and Component so I guess I could connect it right ? what would I do for sound though ?

guil

ongarite wrote: »

Basically PS3 was not designed to be connected to monitor. A TV, preferably HDTV is its favoured display medium.

If you do try to connect PS3 to PC monitor, it doesn't support VGA output at all. It will support component output up to 1080i.
It will connect using HDMI/DVI connection IF the monitor supports HDCP protocol. If it doesn't you are getting nothing on screen at all.

ya can connect it to non hdcp with a component connection

moose jam ya could buy something like a speaker setup i got in gamestop ages ago, it has an adaptor that ya connect to the av multi out and it has a 3.5mm jack on the side of it that the speakers run off, it's not that good but it will be the cheapest way, only cost a tenner

Niall0

what model is the monitor, if it has dvi a hdmi to dvi lead would be the best way to hook it up.if theres no speakers you can just connect the red and whit cables to a hifi or something.

MooseJam

its a 2405fpw , it's actually a 24 inch and there was me thinking I had a 26

Qs

almanu wrote: »

i play mine on standard def no complaints, as the post above me says the prices are coming down all the time, as soon as a 1080 p 42 inch comes down to a grand im in, cant help feeling hard done by with the sd, i know it can be so much better, mate of mine has a hdtv and the difference is huge when you play for a couple of hours ,peats in rathmines are doing 42 inch 1080 p panisonic for 1200 at the mo and the guy said [wont mention his name] if i can wait 2 or 3 mths the price is going to drop to around 800 euros , fair play to him and im going to make sure he gets the commision when i do get it there.

Keep an eye on ibood.com, they had a 42" full HD and every feature you could ask for for 850 a few weeks ago. Thats less than I paid for my 40" Bravia.

Holsten

I have it connected to a 32 inch SD TV. Doesn't look that bad, then again it doesn't look anywhere close to what I've seen it look.

Should be getting a nice 1080p 40 inch soon...

bandit197

almanu wrote: »

as soon as a 1080 p 42 inch comes down to a grand im in

Would ya settle for a 40inch 1080p Samsung for €952 eur delivered??:eek:
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/2/articledetail.jsp?aid=18995&agid=570

jArgHA

Like the OP I also have my PS3 attached to my computer monitor, which doubles up as a TV. The monitor is a 19" LG M198WA (http://svp.co.uk/product/lg_m198wa_19_lcd_monitor_with_integrated_tv_tuner_44007_clearance), which has a max resolution of 1440 x 900pixels. I find that using component video input on this monitor, GTA4 looks absolute pants (definition is very poor, and I have set aspect ratio to 16:9 in PS3 settings).

The monitor does have a DVI input (which my PC uses), but I was wondering if I got a HDMI > DVI cable to connect PS3 to this monitor would I see much of an improvement in defintion? Or would it even work at all - monitor only supports 1440 x 900, and as HD is 1920 x 1080 would it automatically downscale to fit this res?

Niall0

jArgHA wrote: »

Like the OP I also have my PS3 attached to my computer monitor, which doubles up as a TV. The monitor is a 19" LG M198WA (http://svp.co.uk/product/lg_m198wa_19_lcd_monitor_with_integrated_tv_tuner_44007_clearance), which has a max resolution of 1440 x 900pixels. I find that using component video input on this monitor, GTA4 looks absolute pants (definition is very poor, and I have set aspect ratio to 16:9 in PS3 settings).

The monitor does have a DVI input (which my PC uses), but I was wondering if I got a HDMI > DVI cable to connect PS3 to this monitor would I see much of an improvement in defintion? Or would it even work at all - monitor only supports 1440 x 900, and as HD is 1920 x 1080 would it automatically downscale to fit this res?

You must be using composite (the yellow cable) that will look crap alrite , get a hdmi>DVI cable and you should be able to get 720 (im not sure about p)Your monitor has HDCP so a hdmi-Dvi will work and it will look better.

jArgHA

Niall0 wrote: »

You must be using composite (the yellow cable) that will look crap alrite , get a hdmi>DVI cable and you should be able to get 720 (im not sure about p)Your monitor has HDCP so a hdmi-Dvi will work and it will look better.

thanks Niall0, can anyone recommend a good cheap online supplier of HDMI to DVI cable/adapters ?

guil

gtaiv looks crap on all ps3 cos it's ported from the x box

guil

http://search.ebay.ie/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=hdmi+-+dvi+cable

bandit197

guil07 wrote: »

gtaiv looks crap on all ps3 cos it's ported from the x box

What has that got to do with the op asking if he should get a ps3 without a hdtv......troll:mad:

mathias

The monitor does have a DVI input (which my PC uses), but I was wondering if I got a HDMI > DVI cable to connect PS3 to this monitor would I see much of an improvement in defintion? Or would it even work at all - monitor only supports 1440 x 900, and as HD is 1920 x 1080 would it automatically downscale to fit this res?

Actually HD is anything better than 700 lines vertical resolution , most HD content comes in either 1280 x 720 , or 1920 x 1080 , the smaller one is called 720p , and the higher one is called 1080p. Unless you have a TV set which has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 , all content will be scaled by the TV to fit the screen ( it will scale either up or down depending on what it gets), the PS3 will interrogate the TV over HDMI and tell you the best way to set it up.

A 1440 x 900 is typically referred to as HD ready , and should be fine for HD from the PS3.
Use either the HDMI or DVI , or the component connection ( which is typically colored red green blue ) for HD.

If your going the component route make sure not to get mixed up with the yellow , red , and white connections on the PS3 as that is composite and is not what you want.

AtomicHorror

guil07 wrote: »

gtaiv looks crap on all ps3 cos it's ported from the x box

What's that statement based on? Never heard anything of the sort and given that the two versions were coded in parallel it'd seem kinda tricky for one to be said to be a port of the other.

guil

bandit197 wrote: »

What has that got to do with the op asking if he should get a ps3 without a hdtv......troll:mad:

jArgHA wrote: »

GTA4 looks absolute pants (definition is very poor, and I have set aspect ratio to 16:9 in PS3 settings).

can ya not read

guil

AtomicHorror wrote: »

What's that statement based on? Never heard anything of the sort and given that the two versions were coded in parallel it'd seem kinda tricky for one to be said to be a port of the other.

asked about gta in gamestop cos thought it looked really bad and they told me it was ported

guil

http://www.bingegamer.net/index.php/2008/gtaiv-the-only-version-is-the-xbox-360-version

mathias

Enough of the childish fanboyism , it has nothing to do with the OP's question and the actual truth of it is theres nothing between the two versions , its all fanboy BS pure and simple.

guil

do u think i'm an xbox fanboy ha ha i hate them never played it but i'm just sayin what i heard and i though it was possible cos it look bad on the ps3 whats wrong with havin an opinion

Otacon

guil07 wrote: »

whats wrong with havin an opinion

guil07 wrote: »

gtaiv looks crap on all ps3 cos it's ported from the x box

Sounds more like you're trying to pass it as fact...

guil

i dont mean to come across like thati'm just postin what i heard and then looked for a link to c if it was true.. whats so bad bout that

ongarite

That article you linked to was the biggest load of crap i've read on gta comparisons.
Both versions are nearly identical each having their own pros and cons. You will enjoy the game on either console.

311

The PS3 version of gta4 is known to more populated in all parts of the game.

bandit197

guil07 wrote: »

can ya not read

Of course I can read, Im sure the poster didnt mean that gta4 looked pants on the monitor and every other game looked excellent on it. He was just using an example. Statements like 'gtaiv looks crap on all ps3 cos it's ported from the x box' are'nt helpful to his problem.
In fairness to you, you did post a link to a cable for him.

guil

yeah i know he siad he wanted a better connection in hope of the game lookin better and i said that it doesnt look good on a hd tv and meant to not get his hopes up, i dont know what it looks like on 360 as i've said i've never played one before

bandit197

guil07 wrote: »

yeah i know he siad he wanted a better connection in hope of the game lookin better and i said that it doesnt look good on a hd tv and meant to not get his hopes up, i dont know what it looks like on 360 as i've said i've never played one before

I dunno I think it looks excellent on a 720p and I dont think Im alone. Everyone to their own opinion tho. Sorry for continuing this off topic discussion OP.