Job finished, must relocate

Gumbo

dont know if this is the right forum for this but here goes, mods feel free to move if placed in the wrong section.

my friend has been working for a big construction firm for the last 4 years doing office admin on site.

when she first started it was a temp position for 6 months but has been kept on working in the offices on site.

now the job is finishing up and the company want her to move into the companies head office in Tallaght but she doesnt want to as it will mean sitting in traffic trying to travel from finglas to tallaght everyday, not to mention the extra fuel bills and tool fees but its the 1.5-2 hour commute each way that she hates!

im just wondering, she asked me, but i had no idea, where she stands if she says no, she doesnt wana go to Tallaght?

if she is let go, will she still get her redundancy as her employment was based in Finglas and now it ceases to exist as such?

thanks for any comments.

Beruthiel

Moved to the correct forum.
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Gumbo

Beruthiel wrote: »

Moved to the correct forum.
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cheers Beruthiel

Spocker

I'm not 100% on this, but I don't think that your friend would qualify for redundancy, as the job will still exist, just at a different location. Redundancy would only occur when the business is being closed, or there would be a reduction in staff numbers.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/unemployment-and-redundancy/redundancy/redundancy

The difficulty is that your friend doesn't want to do the commute, rather than a problem with the job. The company have offered her the same work at a different location, so I'm guessing if she refuses, then they will just let her go.

Is there a contract or any other documentation in place for the job? In my experience, they generally have a clause/wording that says "or at some other location of the employers choosing..", or words to that effect.

Given that it was a building site, where the construction work was going to be finished eventually, then it was maybe inevitible that she was going to have to move anyways...?

Some good info here: -> http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/

Gumbo

Spocker wrote: »

I'm not 100% on this, but I don't think that your friend would qualify for redundancy, as the job will still exist, just at a different location. Redundancy would only occur when the business is being closed, or there would be a reduction in staff numbers.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/unemployment-and-redundancy/redundancy/redundancy

The difficulty is that your friend doesn't want to do the commute, rather than a problem with the job. The company have offered her the same work at a different location, so I'm guessing if she refuses, then they will just let her go.

Is there a contract or any other documentation in place for the job? In my experience, they generally have a clause/wording that says "or at some other location of the employers choosing..", or words to that effect.

Given that it was a building site, where the construction work was going to be finished eventually, then it was maybe inevitible that she was going to have to move anyways...?

Some good info here: -> http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/

thanks, her contract mentions "Finglas site office" in it.
the other job is a new post in head office, doing something different as far as im aware.

Spocker

The devils going to be in the detail of the contract so; I'm not going to second guess what might or might not be in there, so now would be a good time for your friend to have a good look over it.

I'm pretty sure though, because she has been offered similar work in another location, if she refuses she wouldn't get any redundancy

Gumbo

Spocker wrote: »

The devils going to be in the detail of the contract so; I'm not going to second guess what might or might not be in there, so now would be a good time for your friend to have a good look over it.

I'm pretty sure though, because she has been offered similar work in another location, if she refuses she wouldn't get any redundancy

thanks spocker, i will tell her to thread carefully and study her contract ASAP.

thanks for your help.

Eoin

My last contract said that my location would be xxx, but I must be available to work anywhere in Dublin, definitely have a thorough read of the contract.

I don't know if an office location would make the job no longer available, which I thought was a pre-requisite for voluntary redundancy (i.e., they can't fill the same job after giving someone a leaving package)?

It's a complete pain in the bum though, my new company will be moving next year to one of several horrible locations.

Gumbo

eoin_s wrote: »

My last contract said that my location would be xxx, but I must be available to work anywhere in Dublin, definitely have a thorough read of the contract.

I don't know if an office location would make the job no longer available, which I thought was a pre-requisite for voluntary redundancy (i.e., they can't fill the same job after giving someone a leaving package)?

It's a complete pain in the bum though, my new company will be moving next year to one of several horrible locations.

yeah i know what you mean, if it was a simple job relocation then i would tell her that you must go, but her job is in a finglas site office, now all the apartments are built and the site is closing thenthe employee is no longer required as such.

its a tough one, and i will be very carefull in telling her what to do.

she just rang me and said that her contract states "your initial place of work will be Finglas site office"

Eoin

kceire wrote: »

yeah i know what you mean, if it was a simple job relocation then i would tell her that you must go, but her job is in a finglas site office, now all the apartments are built and the site is closing thenthe employee is no longer required as such.

But is it not the same job she would be doing? Is it even a permanent contract, or has her temporary one just been extended?

kceire wrote: »

its a tough one, and i will be very carefull in telling her what to do.

she just rang me and said that her contract states "your initial place of work will be Finglas site office"

Uh oh, "Initially" doesn't sound good at all.

RIRI

Hi

I've worked as Site Secretary in the past and am still in the industry. It's standard in construction for your contract to state something along the lines of "initially based in.." or for it to have a clause stating that you must be available to travel.

As spocker said, it's a building site and it's inevitable that the job will eventually be complete. Has she asked about moving to another site instead?

Gumbo

RIRI wrote: »

Hi

I've worked as Site Secretary in the past and am still in the industry. It's standard in construction for your contract to state something along the lines of "initially based in.." or for it to have a clause stating that you must be available to travel.

As spocker said, it's a building site and it's inevitable that the job will eventually be complete. Has she asked about moving to another site instead?

yeah, they have a site in Ashbourne which would be great for travel etc etc, so they are looking into that at the moment.

thanks guys.