Boards.ie: The place to learn to break the law?

mikemac

Ok, I fully accept I'll be flamed but hear me out.
I could point to 15 plus threads in a few minutes of posters making purchases in the USA and looking for advice to dodge customs duty.

If someone asked for advice on breaking the law in the motors forum they'd get a warning pretty quickly. The high horse brigade miss nothing
And if you ask for personal advice on the legal forum you get an infraction.

But why can posters in Mac and Cycling forums for example ask for advice on buying gear in New York for example and how to dodge customs on their return? It's very prevelant on boards and I believe you can't ban and infract posters for suggesting breaching the law and then encourage others.

If I suggesting violence against an abusive boyfriend in personal issues for example I'd be banned. If I told a poster how to buy a new racing bike in the USA and how to dodge customs in Shannon airport the nothing would be said

Silverfish

Did you report any of those posts?

Ruu_Old

Did you report any of these posts? I don't allow customs or tax dodging in Online Buying and Auctions, used to happen a lot.

The Sparrow

Most likely because nobody really cares about a bit of customs dodging.

Seriously if this is your most pressing concern you need to get out more!

Sherifu

I don't think there's a lot to customs dodging anyway. Everyone knows the risks.

Onikage

micmclo wrote: »

If I suggesting violence against an abusive boyfriend in personal issues for example I'd be banned. If I told a poster how to buy a new racing bike in the USA and how to dodge customs in Shannon airport the nothing would be said

Because of the vast difference in how serious these two things are?

mikemac

I'll admit I didn't report these posts and I very rarely report anything.
This was more of a general question, I'm not looking to second guess mods and their policies.

To be fair the Mac forum did crack down but there's a few threads always on "I'm going to New York and............."

On the cycling forum, nothing is ever said or done

mikemac

woooo232 wrote: »

Most likely because nobody really cares about a bit of customs dodging.

Seriously if this is your most pressing concern you need to get out more!

Makes no difference to me, I'm not looking to change a mods policies or looking to set standards.
It's a general question so Feedback forum is the correct place to post it. So get lost with your "need to get out more" comment

CuLT

I don't know, maybe you should direct this question at the Cycling mods. Seems like they'd be the people who'd know.

The only people who regularly read Feedback are administrators and "the feedback crew", which encompasses various regular users and moderators who are interested. Moderators don't necessarily all read this forum.

Bob the Builder

Is that all you have for worrying about? I know some of the mods are idiots, but unless they were seriously uptight, I can't see why they would ban a user for saying "I went to NY, bought a laptop and customs didn't question me, so I left"

Customs is not an obligitory tax unless you are asked for it by an revenue/garda official. whats the problem dood?

CuLT wrote: »

The only people who regularly read Feedback are administrators and "the feedback crew", which encompasses various regular users and moderators who are interested. Moderators don't necessarily all read this forum.

Well said.

Overheal

I actually I wonder if the hike in Customs screening measures isnt a direct result of some of the posts that have been made on sites like boards over the years.

Shame too, its caused me to miss out on a lot of great opportunities

Bob the Builder

Overheal wrote: »

I actually I wonder if the hike in Customs screening measures isnt a direct result of some of the posts that have been made on sites like boards over the years.

Shame too, its caused me to miss out on a lot of great opportunities

Don't worry, it's just being brought into line with the rest of europe... and every christmas, it's all over television (ie. RTÉ news), about people escaping paying customs duties.. not Boards' fault..

Overheal

Ah yeah but sometimes you just get the feelings that some news stories and the like are sometimes just ripped right off the thread pages

ModeSkeletor

nevf wrote: »

Customs is not an obligitory tax unless you are asked for it by an revenue/garda official. whats the problem dood?

Car clocking is also not illegal (unless you try to sell the car after) but this type of discussion would not be allowed in the Motors forum.

Double standards if you ask me.

FruitLover

ModeSkeletor wrote: »

Double standards if you ask me.

Why, do the Motors moderators also moderate the Mac and Cycling forums?

Overheal

ModeSkeletor wrote: »

Car clocking is also not illegal (unless you try to sell the car after) but this type of discussion would not be allowed in the Motors forum.

Double standards if you ask me.

who clocks there car if not to extort the fabrication?

Esel

nevf wrote:

Is that all you have for worrying about? ...

No, you need to get out more!

nevf wrote:

Customs is not an obligitory tax

Not even a tax, but obligatory nonetheless.

Overheal wrote:

who clocks there car if not to extort the fabrication?

Say again. Message garbled.

Overheal

who goes to the bother of clocking their car if they arent trying to make a gain out of it.

Rb

Who cares if people don't pay customs tax? It's easily avoided, I'd be surprised if someone had to actually ask how to do it in the first place.

The government don't deserve the money so just avoid giving it to them wherever possible

aidan_walsh

But why can posters in Mac and Cycling forums for example ask for advice on buying gear in New York for example and how to dodge customs on their return?

Fail.

Sully

Its easy. You go up to the lad and explain your situation, wink, and walk away. Guarnteed.*

May or may not be true.

muffler

rb_ie wrote: »

Who cares if people don't pay customs tax? It's easily avoided, I'd be surprised if someone had to actually ask how to do it in the first place.

The government don't deserve the money so just avoid giving it to them wherever possible

That isn't the point the OP is making here. You're right when you say who cares about paying customs tax but the issue is should discussion on how to evade it be allowed on a particular forum when it appears that such discussion is taboo on other forums.

As a comparison we don't allow any debate or discussion on how to flaunt planning laws in the construction & planning forum.

My thoughts are that it should a be a site wide rule that such topics are not discussed.

mikemac

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Fail.

I acknowledged the great work the Mac forum mods did in Post 7

Bob the Builder

esel wrote: »

No, you need to get out more!

...and why's that? I'm not the one moaning about a stupid little "excise duty"

Not even a tax, but obligatory nonetheless.

It's not.
It can't be recalled on your tax statement as overdue. You can only be forced to pay for it if you are directly fined on the spot.

Overheal wrote: »

Ah yeah but sometimes you just get the feelings that some news stories and the like are sometimes just ripped right off the thread pages

Good point. I get that impression too sometimes.

Crash

My understanding in most forums was that there's no problem with people talking about going over to NY to shop etc., but nothing specifically about evading customs was allowed. Is that not so on most of them?

because thats perfectly fair and legal etc.

Bob the Builder

crash_000 wrote: »

My understanding in most forums was that there's no problem with people talking about going over to NY to shop etc., but nothing specifically about evading customs was allowed. Is that not so on most of them?

because thats perfectly fair and legal etc.

Yep, I agree with that sort of system in place.

bonkey

micmclo wrote: »

I'll admit I didn't report these posts and I very rarely report anything.
This was more of a general question, I'm not looking to second guess mods and their policies.

I guess the general answer would be that mods can't be expected to see and notice everything, but can be expected to see and notice everything reported.

If you think a problem is worth someone's attention, the first step should be to report the post(s) in question.

pwd

if you can get the seller to say that it costs less than 45 dollars you can dodge some charges when importing from usa.

randylonghorn

Overheal wrote: »

who clocks there car if not to extort the fabrication?

Overheal, English please! We don't understand your crazy Amerobabble on this side of the Atlantic!

pwd wrote: »

if you can get the seller to say that it costs less than 45 dollars you can dodge some charges when importing from usa.

Lol! Why do I get the feeling the previous poster missed the point just slightly?!

Rb

muffler wrote: »

My thoughts are that it should a be a site wide rule that such topics are not discussed.

Yeah I agree. No direct discussion of how to evade it should be allowed.

That said, if you're stupid enough that you can't figure out how to do it, you don't deserve to dodge the tax

Bob the Builder

rb_ie wrote: »

Yeah I agree. No direct discussion of how to evade it should be allowed.

That said, if you're stupid enough that you can't figure out how to do it, you don't deserve to dodge the tax

it's not that hard really... but at the same time,i dont think it should be specifically discussed.

Overheal

randylonghorn wrote: »

Overheal, English please! We don't understand your crazy Amerobabble on this side of the Atlantic!

who goes to the bother of clocking their car if they arent trying to make a gain out of it.

I will translate for you: what legitimate reason would someone have to clock their car?

Bob the Builder

Overheal wrote: »

I will translate for you: what legitimate reason would someone have to clock their car?

Just take out the word legitimate, and I'll answer that one for you...

Overheal

*facepalm*

Someone Else wrote:

Car clocking is also not illegal (unless you try to sell the car after) but this type of discussion would not be allowed in the Motors forum.

Double standards if you ask me.

Hence my question.

randylonghorn

Overheal wrote: »

I will translate for you: what legitimate reason would someone have to clock their car?

Oh, I got you the second time ... I'm still trying to figure out your first contribution to linguistics though.

Extracting the urine is a phrase I'm familiar with ... but extorting the fabrication?

Overheal

I was .... wait no, I was drinking LAST week.

I dunno

AlmightyCushion

randylonghorn wrote: »

Oh, I got you the second time ... I'm still trying to figure out your first contribution to linguistics though.

Extracting the urine is a phrase I'm familiar with ... but extorting the fabrication?

Making money out of a lie is the way I read it.

randylonghorn

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Making money out of a lie is the way I read it.

Hush, AC ... pish-taking in progress!