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Two identical machines.

  • 08-05-2008 2:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭


    I have Two identical machines & one of them appears to have overheated & blown the processor due to the 775 heat-sink not been fully clipped in on one of the legs. Both systems are running a Stripe Raid.

    My question:

    Can I remove the two drives from the problematic machine & fit them to the working machine(Temporarily swap the drives) in order to retrieve some data?

    Will it boot up that way?


    ...

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Is it onboard raid or a separate card?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    as long as raid is configuered in the same way on the working pc then yes it will work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Is it onboard raid or a separate card?

    Onboard Raid.
    Anti wrote: »
    as long as raid is configuered in the same way on the working pc then yes it will work.

    Theoritically you would imagine it should but I just don't want to screw up the working machine.

    There's no way it could reconfigure anything on t he Mobo chip-set or anything silly like that?


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    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    no, it should work fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭SickBoy


    I have Two identical machines & one of them appears to have overheated & blown the processor due to the 775 heat-sink not been fully clipped in on one of the legs. Both systems are running a Stripe Raid.

    My question:

    Can I remove the two drives from the problematic machine & fit them to the working machine(Temporarily swap the drives) in order to retrieve some data?

    Will it boot up that way?


    ...
    Just swap the processor with the one from the working system...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    SickBoy wrote: »
    Just swap the processor with the one from the working system...

    I'm looking for the lesser of two evils here.

    There's already one processor down & I sure as hell don't want to mess with the other one :eek:



    -

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    I'd swap the processor. The Raid card holds the stripe info, so swapping the hard disks may result in an error. I don't know about PC's, but I do know for a fact (tried it!) from HP servers that if you take out your 6 HD's and move them to another one, it won't boot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    If the two system are using the same Raid Chipset then you can just swap the drivers.

    Just make for you connected then to the exact connector on the system and also MANUALLY check the RAID chipset by LOOKING at it, I've seen company's use completely different components in systems that are meant to be the same {ever in a batch of 5 that had concurrent serial numbers !?!?!?!}


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    It should work, I've moved raid volumes before, but the chip is a safer option IMO,


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,763 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Biro wrote: »
    The Raid card holds the stripe info, so swapping the hard disks may result in an error.

    The most basic part of the RAID set is in the RAID volume descriptor on each hard disk. The RAID controller will reassemble the RAID volume from the separate descriptors on each disk. Just move the disks to the other machine, set them to RAID mode in the BIOS and that's it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Well I swapped the two drives booted the machine & it booted straight into Windows no problem.

    Retrieved the data I needed & put the original drives back in & all is fine.

    I absolutely hate them socket 775 heat sink clips.

    Maybe it's just me? but I find it awful difficult to get the last of the four legs to lock in.

    All my own 775 machines have the screw down heat sinks (I just refuse to use the others) :D


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    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Biro wrote: »
    I'd swap the processor. The Raid card holds the stripe info, so swapping the hard disks may result in an error. I don't know about PC's, but I do know for a fact (tried it!) from HP servers that if you take out your 6 HD's and move them to another one, it won't boot.
    I think (but am not sure) that with a SCSI RAID card it will hold the disk IDs as part of the RAID configuration data. I've no idea if an onboard IDE/SATA raid chip would do the same, but I suspect it wouldn't be as fussy and once the disks were the same type it wouldn't care about ID/serial numbers.


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