Handicap Question ??

Dublin Spur

I am in the process of getting my GUI handicap.

I have completed 3 rounds and I'll be submitting my cards in the next few days.

My gross scores are:
82 (par 72)
82 (par 71)
82 (par 71)

I'm just wondering what kind of a handicap do you think I will be given. I have been playing off 12 in a society and I imagine I will be given 10 or less.

I hope it's not less than 9 because although I have been playing well lately I'm not sure I could consistantly shoot low 80s scores in the long term.

Also, only 1 of the 3 rounds was at the club I've joined, is this acceptable ??

Thanks

ShriekingSheet

Dublin Spur wrote: »

I am in the process of getting my GUI handicap.

I have completed 3 rounds and I'll be submitting my cards in the next few days.

My gross scores are:
82 (par 72)
82 (par 71)
82 (par 71)

I'm just wondering what kind of a handicap do you think I will be given. I have been playing off 12 in a society and I imagine I will be given 10 or less.

I hope it's not less than 9 because although I have been playing well lately I'm not sure I could consistantly shoot low 80s scores in the long term.

Also, only 1 of the 3 rounds was at the club I've joined, is this acceptable ??

Thanks

From the GUI...

"To obtain a handicap a player is required to submit a number of cards over 18 holes at his Home Club (preferably over a Measured Course), in such a manner as his Home Club specifies, but not less than three. Each card must be signed by a responsible person acceptable to the Handicap Committee.

Any score of 2 over par for men and 3 over par for ladies shall be amended to 2 [3] over par respectively. After these adjustments have been made an Exact Handicap (whole number) should be allotted equivalent to the number of strokes by which the best of the submitted cards differs from the Standard Scratch Score."

I'm fairly sure the h'cap sec will require the scores to be on the home course issuing the h'cap.

As for what you'll get, while there seems to be a set mathematical process above, I never cease to be amazed at some of the h'caps given out whether they be high or low. It rarely seems to be the case that they just tot up as above and there it is.

I think you could just as easily get 6 or 16. You just never know in my experience.

copacetic

your handicap is supposed to be your best potential score, not your average score, with scores of 10, 11 and 11 over I'd imagine you will be put off 7 or 8.

Dublin Spur

Thanks for the info.

I have been asking a few friends and the there definately seems to be more questions than answers around the whole area of handicaps.

God knows what I'll be given !?!?

Dublin Spur

copacetic wrote: »

your handicap is supposed to be your best potential score, not your average score, with scores of 10, 11 and 11 over I'd imagine you will be put off 7 or 8.

Wouldn't fancy that !!

Mister Sifter

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Wouldn't fancy that !!

Impossible to tell by the round scores what you will get. Depends alot on the individual hole scores too. I think Copacetic could be on the right lines.

That said, your three cards need to be from your home club.

Dublin Spur

Graeme1982 wrote: »

That said, your three cards need to be from your home club.

Okay, that changes everything then.

Thanks

Sandwich

copacetic wrote: »

your handicap is supposed to be your best potential score, not your average score, with scores of 10, 11 and 11 over I'd imagine you will be put off 7 or 8.

I dont think so.
By that logic anyone beating theirhandicap was playing with an incorrect handicap.

Swinging Looney

Sandwich wrote: »

I dont think so.
By that logic anyone beating theirhandicap was playing with an incorrect handicap.

That's exactly right. That is why they cut your handicap afterwards.

clog

Swinging Looney wrote: »

That's exactly right. That is why they cut your handicap afterwards.

That is a great way of explaining it i'm tired of people who expect that their handicap entitles them to score 36 pts every week.

copacetic

Sandwich wrote: »

I dont think so.
By that logic anyone beating theirhandicap was playing with an incorrect handicap.

by the odds in any comp someone should shoot the lights out, they should score their handicap or a bit better. No-one should come close to averaging to their handicap imo. Of course the system gets messed up by the amount of people who don't have the correct handicap but thats life I guess.

Sandwich

Swinging Looney wrote: »

That's exactly right. That is why they cut your handicap afterwards.

Not really.
They only cut it by a small proportion of the 'error' in your handicap. eg shoot 40pts off 12 with SSS of 37 : cut by 0.6. Your playing handicap might not even change. But by the logic of the (erroneous) post above that your handicap should be your best potential score, it should cut you at most to 9 if not lower.

From my experience most "reasonably correct" handicaps are about 6 shots higher than their best score. For anyone playing regularly in qualifying competitions, say 20 to 30 cards per year, to shoot 42pts equivalent once in the year, and to beat their handicap on another 3 or 4 ocasions by a lesser amount is not untypical. Approx 12- 15 cards will probably be outside 2 strokes of SSS (so gaining 0.1 each time). The remaining cards will be within the no-handicap-adjustment range. i.e. be cut 8 or 9 x(fraction), and be increased 15 x 0.1. Leaving much the same handicap at the end of the year.

Certainly not a bandit.