Red light but green turning light

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:14pm #1

If you turn into a lane where the cars are stopped for you as you have a green light but in the process of the turn go through the red light that theyre waiting at, what would be the situation with this?

Also can you only get caught (for a fine etc) going through lights if traffic corps catch you as that situation worries me.

blackbox · 07-05-2008 9:17pm

Can't understand either question. A diagram for the first one might help. As for the second one...

Wishbone Ash · 07-05-2008 9:18pm

carlostevez90 wrote: »

but in the process of the turn go through the red light that theyre waiting at, what would be the situation with this?

Could you describe it a bit more clearly?

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:23pm

Diagram... bit crude sorry

Kimbot · 07-05-2008 9:25pm

Basically your turning Right, and what you are asking is when turning right if the lights are red for people that are going from left to right (straight through the lights) can you be done by the gaurds??

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:26pm

Yeah Thanks

Neilw · 07-05-2008 9:27pm

You would go thru the lights that are red as this set of lights is for cars to the left before the junction. The stop line for the red traffic lights is before the junction.

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:28pm

Yeah i thought that..
just another question
can you only get penalty points if seen by traffic corps?

Kimbot · 07-05-2008 9:28pm

Exactly sd Neil says, once you have a green light then you are good to go.

Are you currently driving OP??

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:29pm

whats OP?

Cionád · 07-05-2008 9:33pm

carlostevez90 wrote: »

whats OP?

Original Poster, i.e. Are you a driver?

Wishbone Ash · 07-05-2008 9:33pm

carlostevez90 wrote: »

whats OP?

You! (Opening poster/post).

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:35pm

Yeah... so thats grand.. no one beeped or anything so i assumed it was fine
yes im driving awhile (passed test ages ago) but the area was unfamiliar . the junction was strange to me,
just dont wanna get any unwanted fines...

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:44pm

so it seems grand??

stepbar · 07-05-2008 9:47pm

There's a junction in Ranalagh the same as your diagram. Plenty of people make the mistake you describe and it annoys the fcuk out of me.....

"Get off the road you fcukwit... ARRRRRRRRRRRAGHHHHHH!" (not at you OP comment in general

)

corcaigh07 · 07-05-2008 9:47pm

judging by your diagram, you answered your own question!

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:47pm

so i wasnt pulled in or anythin. so i wont get points?

Cionád · 07-05-2008 9:49pm

carlostevez90 wrote: »

so i wasnt pulled in or anythin. so i wont get points?

How would you get points? If a traffic corps saw you do something wrong they would have told you about it.

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:50pm

Cionád wrote: »

How would you get points? If a traffic corps saw you do something wrong they would have told you about it.

no.. no-one said anything,so ive nothing to worry bout?

Cionád · 07-05-2008 9:51pm

carlostevez90 wrote: »

no.. no-one said anything,so ive nothing to worry bout?

Nope

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:52pm

so just explain to me.. whats the only way you can points for red light situations.

delly · 07-05-2008 9:53pm

carlostevez90 wrote: »

no.. no-one said anything,so ive nothing to worry bout?

100% nothing to worry about. Now fix yourself a stiff drink before the special branch call around :pac:

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:54pm

how do you know its 100%?

Cionád · 07-05-2008 9:55pm

List of offences: http://penaltypoints.ie/driving_offences.php

Failure to obey traffic lights or to stop at traffic sign adjacent to such lights- 2 points

Don't worry about it.

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:56pm

Cionád wrote: »

List of offences: http://penaltypoints.ie/driving_offences.php

Failure to obey traffic lights or to stop at traffic sign adjacent to such lights- 2 points

Don't worry about it.

i dont understand your point?

Cionád · 07-05-2008 9:57pm

carlostevez90 wrote: »

i dont understand your point?

You were not pulled over by the Gardai, you don't have points.

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 9:58pm

is there any other way they can do anything?

Cionád · 07-05-2008 9:59pm

carlostevez90 wrote: »

is there any other way they can do anything?

Gatso camera's can catch you speeding i suppose.

What are you so worried about?

carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 10:00pm

because im a bit obsessive and worry alot..
this was in a residential area, so only stuff cud come back to me if i had have been pulled over?

Cionád · 07-05-2008 10:02pm

Cionád wrote: »

You were not pulled over by the Gardai, you don't have points.

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carlostevez90 · 07-05-2008 10:03pm

Thank you

i can rest easy now

Holsten · 07-05-2008 10:05pm

If I'm looking at your drawing correctly, there is one of these type of set ups in Maynooth, no one would stop at the reds.

I've gone through them with the guards behind me and nothing happened.

HJL · 07-05-2008 10:40pm

Isnt it one of the reasons that there would be traffic lights on the other road so that it would cause a break in traffic to allow the OP's road to pull out safely?
Perfectly legal move by what you describe, as they say around here
'horse her on' !

Esel · 07-05-2008 10:49pm

Based on the diagram posted, and assuming the road you were coming from was not controlled by lights, I'd say you should not go through the red light. At that point you are on the road that is controlled by the red light. Was there a pedestrian crossing there?

Was there a yellow box in the junction? If so, you should have entered it, stopped before the red light, and waited for it to change.

Neilw · 08-05-2008 1:59am

esel wrote: »

Based on the diagram posted, and assuming the road you were coming from was not controlled by lights, I'd say you should not go through the red light. At that point you are on the road that is controlled by the red light. Was there a pedestrian crossing there?

Was there a yellow box in the junction? If so, you should have entered it, stopped before the red light, and waited for it to change.

Wrong

Esel · 08-05-2008 2:14am

Neilw wrote: »

Wrong

Nice rebuttal! Care to explain why you think so?

Neilw · 08-05-2008 2:21am

Neilw wrote: »

You would go thru the lights that are red as this set of lights is for cars to the left before the junction. The stop line for the red traffic lights is before the junction.

Posted already.

Esel · 08-05-2008 2:58am

Fair enough. I read the first post again. The OP had a green light. Crazy question really!

cyclopath2001 · 08-05-2008 6:41am

carlostevez90 wrote: »

so just explain to me.. whats the only way you can points for red light situations.

The key to this is the presence of a stop line.

Crossing a stop line when the lights are red is an offence. In the situation you outlined, there was no stop line (for you) before the second set of signals as stop line associated with those signals was set on the road whose traffic they controlled.

BTW, there's a common misconception that you only stop on red The regulations require you to slow down and stop on amber.

MrPudding · 08-05-2008 7:41am

carlostevez90 wrote: »

Thank you

i can rest easy now

Good. Unfortunately some of the rest of us will not be resting easy. It is kind of scary to think that someone can have passed a driving test and then has to come onto an internet bulletin board to ask how red lights work.

cyclopath2001 wrote: »

BTW, there's a common misconception that you only stop on red The regulations require you to slow down and stop on amber.

Baby steps. Let's see if we can get them to stop a red lights before we go for the advanced driving techniques.

MrP

L1011 · 08-05-2008 9:10am

Theres an exception to this you see occasionally - main street in Maynooth is one - where theres both a repeater for the red for the far side of the T, and a seperate red light for you for a pedestrian crossing directly afterwards.... your light is further forward and on the left and the repeaters on the right.

Causes some fun when yours is green and the repeaters red and someone shoots across from the other side!

Blue is direction of travel, green/red dots are the lights, the fun starts when you go around just as its about to go amber, come around to find your light for the pedestrian crossing red, stop and get honked out of it by people that don't know the junction.

Tails142 · 08-05-2008 9:19am

This thread cracks me up, as do people who stop at red lights on the other side of a junction when turning right, which unfortunately happens all too often.

I saw it a few times on the old red cow roundabout aswell, hilarious. I see it very regularly on the junction in Drumcondra at Fagan's pub there.

I generally just give a wee toot of my horn and drive around them, I've no time for morons really.

guil · 08-05-2008 9:44am

carlostevez90 wrote: »

If you turn into a lane where the cars are stopped for you as you have a green light but in the process of the turn go through the red light that theyre waiting at, what would be the situation with this?

Also can you only get caught (for a fine etc) going through lights if traffic corps catch you as that situation worries me.

how on earth did u pass ur test

Red light but green turning light

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