have a work related issue

curehead

basically i am working two part time jobs about 22 hours per week in each tues wed thurs in one job and fri sat sun in another , neither of them pay prsi tax its cash in hand though i do not draw (dole ) or whatever its called so i am not registered as working what are my rights regarding these i am doing both jobs for about 6 months .
a couple of questions i work long days on my own with no break just a quick sandwich behind the desk if lucky ,
i dont get any holiday pay i took four days off last month never got paid
i have to sit on a chair with no back on it my back is fooked
the list goes on '
one of these companys may be selling up and i will be out of work
what i want to know is can i claim something from them not paying a stamp for me or any of the other hardship i know they are at fault but don't know where to turn

Eoin

curehead wrote: »

basically i am working two part time jobs about 22 hours per week in each tues wed thurs in one job and fri sat sun in another , neither of them pay prsi tax its cash in hand though i do not draw (dole ) or whatever its called so i am not registered as working what are my rights regarding these i am doing both jobs for about 6 months .
a couple of questions i work long days on my own with no break just a quick sandwich behind the desk if lucky ,
i dont get any holiday pay i took four days off last month never got paid
i have to sit on a chair with no back on it my back is fooked
the list goes on '
one of these companys may be selling up and i will be out of work
what i want to know is can i claim something from them not paying a stamp for me or any of the other hardship i know they are at fault but don't know where to turn

So, you have no payslips, no contract and basically no record of working whatsoever?

curehead

that is correct '
but i work in the public so hundreds of people know i work in these places
if i need proof

Eoin

curehead wrote: »

that is correct '
but i work in the public so hundreds of people know i work in these places
if i need proof

Do you have proof of income tax paid?

curehead

no its cash in hand ? is that my fault for accepting it ?

Eoin

curehead wrote: »

no its cash in hand ? is that my fault for accepting it ?

If you're happy to work without a contract, and without paying your share of income tax, then I'd say it's a good bet that any rights you may have are diminished considerably.

Check out www.citizensinformation.ie or www.entemp.ie - there may be more information there.

Agent Smith

Your breaking the Law by Not paying Tax, so why should the law protect you?
(other then in extreame curcimstances)

curehead

well i'm not happy about it at all but i need the money

curehead

is my employer not meant to pay tax on my behalf ?
excuse me i have no idea how this works any other jobs ive been in my employers done all of that

Eoin

curehead wrote:

is my employer not meant to pay tax on my behalf ?
excuse me i have no idea how this works any other jobs ive been in my employers done all of that

You can also declare your own income tax, but if you were happy to work without a signed contract and didn't look into this immediately, it's at best naive. You must have known that this wasn't an above the board deal?

curehead

naive yes but i'd like to know how to get these's companys to do everything above board without losing my job ' i guess to somebody who will put up with all these back door shenanigans
basically if they wont do these things how do i make them
and if i'm told if i dont like it look for something else
and what if i cant find a job immediately and sign on as it were do i say the company never registered me or is it my fault and will i get in trouble '
i really am naieve to all this stuff

Agent Smith

You could ask for them to Sort out your Paye, as woul want to try and claim for the dentist.

Eoin

curehead - if this company is happy to pay you under the counter, then they are probably the same sort of crowd that will tell you there's no more work for you if you make a fuss.

I don't know if there are any legal options open to you, and I wouldn't look on a message board for legal advice either, other than having a look at those two links I posted earlier.

Really the best advice I can offer is to look for a job in a company that won't act like cowboys.

AARRRGH

Couple of questions...

Are you from the EU?
Do other people who work there pay tax/prsi?
Have you given your employers a copy of your P45 from your previous employment? Have you given them your PPS number?
Could you talk to your manager about your situation?