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Michael Gomez v Amir Khan

  • 06-05-2008 05:03PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭


    looks like the McDonagh fight has been scrapped in favour of what I can only see as a "cashing out" venture.

    Three rounds of war and then a KO - feck it I'll be there!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7385918.stm

    Links need to be added for news stories

    Thanks


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭akindoc


    looking forward to this one, I''ve always liked Gomez since he destroyed Alex arthur in edinburgh in 2004. BRILLIANT fight that was.

    Khan is bigger though and stronger and faster.

    He should win.

    But Gomez will bring a high level of intensity. The pre fight schnanigans should be entertaining.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Gomez do this. He is in with a shout. But it's more likely that Khan blitzes him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 968 ✭✭✭ODD-JOB


    Gomez will make Amir Khan look v.good
    It's a careful choice of opponent.

    Gomez is (like most of Khan's opponents) feather/super featherweight fighter !
    where as Khan is very big for his weight, I dont know how he manages to make weight sometimes.

    Gomez is almost defenceless....... He'll be picked off by Khan , probably KO'd by round 7.

    Another public con-job by Warren imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭sligobhoy67


    ODD-JOB wrote: »
    Gomez will make Amir Khan look v.good
    It's a careful choice of opponent.

    Gomez is (like most of Khan's opponents) feather/super featherweight fighter !
    where as Khan is very big for his weight, I dont know how he manages to make weight sometimes.

    Gomez is almost defenceless....... He'll be picked off by Khan , probably KO'd by round 7.

    Another public con-job by Warren imo.


    too harsh OJ - I agree with you about Gomez - the man is **** - but he's a lightweight now and has been up and down from LW for a bit now.

    Hardly a "con job" though!

    Can wait for the "shennanigans" that Gomez gets up to - the man is scum but 100% pure entertainment - and he sure know how ta av a paaaaaartehhh!!! scattah!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭c1979


    gomez has no chance, but he will run a muck in all the pre fight press conferences.

    Sure johanson destroyed him and he's super feather, all warren is showing is that khan is going to be protected like all his fighters like calzaghe fighting an old bernard hopkins abd now an old rjj, hatton (when he was with him) etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 968 ✭✭✭ODD-JOB



    Hardly a "con job" though!

    scattah!!

    Total con-job. Gomez is a total joke, pissed up ol washed out bum , whoose last 6 fights have seen him knocked out 3 times by super-feathers , and the other three fights he won were against a guy with 61 losses , a guy with 7 fights only , and lastly to a guy who hasnt won a single match in his last 18 fights.

    I hate Khan and I hate Gomez for turning me over on my bet against Mc Donagh.
    Gomez owes me a small bundle , and it gives me pleasure when i seen s-f Johanson demolish him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Looks like Khan will keep his unbeaten record sweet until a wbo title shot comes about.
    He should be fighting levels above this but at least it should be entertaining for a few rounds. what happened to fighting in America in the Summer? Maybe Warren is tied to an ITV show with Khan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Khan demolises the shot Gomez anytime frio 30 seconds in and the 3rd round .
    This is a sick joke of a fight .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 968 ✭✭✭ODD-JOB


    joepenguin wrote: »
    Looks like Khan will keep his unbeaten record sweet until a wbo title shot comes about.
    He should be fighting levels above this but at least it should be entertaining for a few rounds. what happened to fighting in America in the Summer? Maybe Warren is tied to an ITV show with Khan?

    WBO is less likely to happen than the WBC imo.
    Khan is higher on the WBO , but Anthony Peterson is next in line , Khan is #2 in contention.
    Anthony Peterson recently signed up with TOP RANK , the very next day Warren announces that Khan's next fight will be domestic.

    Now that seemed odd because only 2 weeks before that a casino in Vegas claimed to have agreed to hold Khan's next 2 fights.

    Obviously what happened was that Bob Arum (TOP RANK) managed to get in there ahead of Khan for a title shot this year.
    Warren failed to do the business, and whilst only having 1 more fight on contract, Warren was desperate.

    Within 4 or 5 days , WBC announced that Khan had been promoted to #4 , and not on merit imo.
    Boxing is a dirty business ,especially at the top level, favours-envelopes-strings pulled , its as crooked as a dog's back leg.

    Warren appeared to have moved his plan towards the WBC route.
    Of all the titles to have at lightweight the WBC has the most potential at the moment.
    Manny Pacquaio upgrades to lightweight to challange the weakest of the champions @ lightweight. He fights , and should beat David Diaz.
    The WBC is where its at then .

    Khan has maybe 2 more fights beofre a title shot imo, one against M Gomez (:mad:) , and then one against some washed out old bum...early Sept ??

    Warren and Khan will then agree a new deal , probably on the basis of shot at the WBC title.

    Everything must go according to expectations, Khan beats Gomez , Manny beats Diaz, and the other obstacles in the way is Ali Funeka who will get beaten by Raheem .


    Ive done a lot of homework on this ,.... carefully monitoring the situation.
    I traded a large amount on betfair's boxing market over the last few months. Traded out my last bit of red this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Odd-job, interesting to see you trade on Betfair. So do I.

    I'm very selective about my betting and I'm certainly not a big punter, but boxing and the GAA draws in the championship have earned me a nice few euros over the last few years.

    I've always wanted to see do any of the regulars have a particular method for betting, as with boxing I wait for an obvious distance fight (Calzaghe/Hopkins) then cover all the distance options with the most money going on the result I most fancy and in general I come out smiling (Rees/Kotelnik stoppage cost me though).

    Any tips ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 968 ✭✭✭ODD-JOB


    Well , the boxing market is great.
    Generally you have a large number of people who log-in and stick their 10 or 20 quid on whatever price is available.
    So always offer(lay) something well short of the bookmakers price.
    You'll be surprised how often people will take a silly price.

    The best trading comes in the 2 weeks up to fight day.
    By the time the day of the fight comes around , you have a small number of heavy betters who go 4 fighures in a close lay/back selection.
    There is no decent room for profit.

    My Amir Khan bet involved the specials market.
    For some reason , betfair included it in Khan v Kristian market.
    I managed to sell a heap of "khan to be champion by dec31 2008" between 1.9 and 1.3 .........
    I got stuck with a 500 red situation ,as the liquidity is virtually non-existant . I managed to trade it out , with a 300 green situation now.

    By the time Khan beats Gomez , Ill expect "khan to be champion" to be backed at around 1.4 or so.
    The general public havent a clue, and get completely tangled up in the hype and patriotism !

    Did a nice bundle on the Hopkins calzaghe fight.

    Ill be quite keen to lay froch just before the fight starts,.... he'll be a silly short price. Rubin W is actually ok.

    The best tip , is to lay the "method of victory" market.
    Every fan backs his boxer to win by KO/Tko ..........
    it ends up being backed into a price that is way off the actual probability of occurance.

    That dela hoya fight did me a nice number , Dela hya started by ko @ 9/4 and ended up at even's or 11/10 by fight night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Thanks for that Odd-Job, I'll certainly be referencing that post from time to time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    Big Ears wrote: »
    Khan demolises the shot Gomez anytime frio 30 seconds in and the 3rd round .
    This is a sick joke of a fight .

    Agreed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭theone


    sadly i have to agree aswell when is warren going to put khan in with someone half decent gomez was good in his prime but not now.

    gamboa vs khan would be some fight but can't see it happening for a few years if at all.Khan will have moved up in weight by then and be too big for gamboa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Khan is already too big for Gamboa, too fast and too hard hitting; mismatch IMO.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    walshb wrote: »
    Khan is already too big for Gamboa, too fast and too hard hitting; mismatch IMO.....

    hard hitting maybe , but Gamboa has both quicker handspeed and reflexes imo .
    He's fought better opposition than Khan at this stage too .

    I haven't got around to watching anything more than the first round of the Jimenez fight but unless the knockdown shows a solid case for a dodgy chin and not just a guy who keeps his hands low getting caught off balance then I wouldn't be anymore worried about Gamboa taking Khan's punches than the other way around .

    Despite the difference in weight I'm not convinced this would be an easy win for Khan , Limond's speed caused Khan trouble , Gamboa is much quicker again and I feel his countering ability may be enough to get the better of Khan . Then again I may have underestimated the size difference, but I'd pick Gamboa to beat Khan .



    edit: watching the knockdown it's hard to tell if he was hurt or not , I don't think he was but he may have just concealed it well .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭theone


    have to agree with big Ears I'd pick gamboa if they fought this year but after that khan will have improved too much not only in technique but in size aswell.

    Would willie limond be able to tag gamboa like he tagged khan I don't think so even with his hands held low imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Well, if Gamboa, who by the way, was fantastic in the games in Athens, can beat Khan; then Khan may as well throw his hat at it. Gamboa is a fetaher, and no more. He's about 5 feet 5 max. It's a natural 135-140lber facing a natural 126lber. I disagree regarding their speed. Khan IMO has more damaging speed as he combines power as well as speed.

    Gamboa is giving away 3-4 inches in height and reach and will be facing a 147lb man come fight night.....

    He's just too small......

    Re-thinking my post above, to say Gamboa is a natural feather is stretching it. The guy if he really
    tried, could, I'm sure; be a bantam or super bantam. Remember in '04 he was 112lbs and he went to 126lbs
    so he could avoid Rigondeaux, not because he couldn't make 118lbs...This makes it all the more
    absurd to believe that a 5 foot 5 bantam/feather can beat a 5 foot 9 inch lightweight, who by the way, is
    barely making lightweight. Khan is a big lightweight and will IMO be campaigning at 140-147 in the next couple
    of years. Gamboa's chin is just as suspect as Khans, but the big difference is that when Khan nails him, then he'll know
    all about being hit. Gamboa is not a hard hitter and will not carry any dangerous power should he move to 135lbs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭sligobhoy67


    right - tickets are booked - train is booked - now wheres ma sombrero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    right - tickets are booked - train is booked - now wheres ma sombrero

    Now if ya were thinkin ahead You probably could have nabbed one last week:D

    Just wanted to ask about the seats at the Hatton fight Sligobhoy:
    How many rows / blocks were you back, how much did the seats cost and did you have a good view?

    Just in case I ever get the chance to go to a big fight, would like to have an idea what to go for ticket wise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭sligobhoy67


    joepenguin wrote: »
    Now if ya were thinkin ahead You probably could have nabbed one last week:D

    Just wanted to ask about the seats at the Hatton fight Sligobhoy:
    How many rows / blocks were you back, how much did the seats cost and did you have a good view?

    Just in case I ever get the chance to go to a big fight, would like to have an idea what to go for ticket wise.

    It depends on the show and the venue - each venue is obviously different and if you've been to them before then you know what you should go for and what to pay. It was easy when everyone fought at the MEN cos i knew to the exact row what I wanted. Some venues you know you can bully the security and go ringside (even a little knacker like myself) and what venues you cant.

    At the Hatton fight in the COMS I knew I was being screwed but there was a gang over from Sligo so I had to get them. I was in the stand along the side level with the centre of the ring and ten rows back (apron height - which gets you over the heads of the guys on the floor) and they were £100 each.

    The Gomez tickets are similar choices in terms of location of seat - centre ring (to avoid camera men and turn buckles and tiered ten rows back to get above the apron and floor standers) this time they were £40.


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