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Actuations

  • 03-05-2008 9:41am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭


    How can you tell how many actuations have been used by your camera. I have a canon 5D.

    Cheers


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭leohoju


    You can try Opanda's IExif , which will let you view the EXIF data of your images. Load your last taken image in the software and scroll through the huge amount of data and in amongst all of that you should see your "Shutter Releases" value.

    Oh and if you're using a Mac, try ExifTool. Not as pretty an interface as Opanda, but just as functional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    There's an application called Cancount.exe that can help.

    Try http://www.soens.de/

    Hope that helps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    You can't on a 5D I'm afraid.

    The file numbering system increments from the last number so if you change CF cards to one with a higher number then your numbering scheme is goosed. And it also resets at 10,000 anyway.

    The CanCount works great on the 1D series but I'm not sure if it supports the 5D.

    If you bring it to a Canon service centre they can let you know via their diagnostic software. They may charge you though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭leohoju


    Roen wrote: »
    You can't on a 5D I'm afraid.

    Bit of an oversight on Canon's part isn't it? Having to send the camera back to them just to find out how many times you're shutter has been released (unless of course this is an additional money spinner?).

    What's the expected lifetime of a 5D shutter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    leohoju wrote: »
    Bit of an oversight on Canon's part isn't it? Having to send the camera back to them just to find out how many times you're shutter has been released (unless of course this is an additional money spinner?).

    What's the expected lifetime of a 5D shutter?

    It's rated at 100,000. But to be honest, it might go at 200,000 or 200. You just don't know. Not sure on the cost of replacing the shutter assembly but I doubt it's cheap :)

    As far as I know only the 1 series have the ability to report back the actuation count via the software that Paulw mentioned above. For all the rest you have to ship it back. It's a bummer!

    You could always count how many files you have though. A quick look at Lightroom shows me that I have just under 4000 files with a 5D. Although two of those were taken with Fajitas! camera.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Only 2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Roen wrote: »
    It's rated at 100,000. But to be honest, it might go at 200,000 or 200. You just don't know. Not sure on the cost of replacing the shutter assembly but I doubt it's cheap :)

    As far as I know only the 1 series have the ability to report back the actuation count via the software that Paulw mentioned above. For all the rest you have to ship it back. It's a bummer!

    You could always count how many files you have though. A quick look at Lightroom shows me that I have just under 4000 files with a 5D. Although two of those were taken with Fajitas! camera.

    With Opanda's Iexif viewer it even displays the actuations on a lowly Nikon D40 - I'm sure the 5D shouldn't be a problem (unless Canon do not include this info in its exif?)

    No need to spend money to get such basic info :)

    My D40 is not rated but presumed to have at least 20,000. I'm currently at 22,000 :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Yep, 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    Thirdfox wrote: »
    I'm sure the 5D shouldn't be a problem (unless Canon do not include this info in its exif?)

    Nope, Canon don't write this info to the exif.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭localchap


    Cacount works only for 1D cameras up to Mark II, on Mark III its useless as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭quilmore


    here link somebody is saying a Nikon D80 has gone 800k actuations and another 1.2m actuations

    I've been told Nikon Dxx's are rated at at least 50k (D70, D50 and D80 may be rated 100k)
    Dxxx's are rated at 250k and I assume Dx's will be much more than that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    I don't think the Dxx (Nikon) are officially rated. But there are people who say that their cameras are still alive at 50,000+

    Of course there are a similarly people saying that theirs died after 17,000...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Thirdfox wrote: »
    With Opanda's Iexif viewer it even displays the actuations on a lowly Nikon D40 - I'm sure the 5D shouldn't be a problem (unless Canon do not include this info in its exif?)

    No need to spend money to get such basic info :)

    My D40 is not rated but presumed to have at least 20,000. I'm currently at 22,000 :(

    I've tried it on the 5D files, only works with JPEG's though, not raws or TIFF's. It doesn't really display that much info at all and it certainly doesn't display shutter count.
    Unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    This is the full info I get from a jpg image off IExif:

    [Image]
    Make = NIKON CORPORATION
    Model = NIKON D40
    Orientation = top/left
    X Resolution = 300
    Y Resolution = 300
    Resolution Unit = inch
    Software = Ver.1.10
    Date Time = 2008-02-15 15:30:30
    YCbCr Positioning = co-sited
    Exif IFD Pointer = Offset: 216

    [Camera]
    Exposure Time = 1/80"
    F Number = F0
    Exposure Program = Manual
    ISO Speed Ratings = 400
    Exif Version = Version 2.21
    Date Time Original = 2008-02-15 15:30:30
    Date Time Digitized = 2008-02-15 15:30:30
    Components Configuration = YCbcr
    Compressed Bits Per Pixel = 4
    Exposure Bias Value = ±0EV
    Max Aperture Value = F1
    Metering Mode = CenterWeightedAverage
    Light Source = unknown
    Flash = Off
    Focal Length = 0mm
    Maker Note = 29500 Byte
    User Comment = Copyright Diyu Wu
    Subsec Time =
    Subsec Time Original =
    Subsec Time Digitized =
    Flashpix Version = Version 1.0
    Color Space = sRGB
    Exif Image Width = 3008
    Exif Image Height = 2000
    Interoperability IFD Pointer = Offset: 30352
    Sensing Method = One-chip color area sensor
    File Source = DSC
    Scene Type = A directly photographed image
    CFA Pattern = [B,G],\r\n[G,R]
    Custom Rendered = Normal process
    Exposure Mode = Manual exposure
    White Balance = Auto white balance
    Digital Zoom Ratio = 1x
    Focal Length In 35mm Film =
    Scene Capture Type = Normal
    Gain Control = Low gain up
    Contrast = Normal
    Saturation = High saturation
    Sharpness = Hard
    Subject Distance Range = unknown

    [GPS]

    [Interoperability]
    Interoperability Index = ExifR98
    Interoperability Version = Version 1.0

    [Thumbnail Info]
    Compression = JPEG Compressed (Thumbnail)
    X Resolution = 300
    Y Resolution = 300
    Resolution Unit = inch
    JPEG Interchange Format = Offset: 30492
    JPEG Interchange Format Length = Length: 9009
    YCbCr Positioning = co-sited

    [Thumbnail]
    Thumbnail = 160 x 120

    [MakerNote (Nikon)]
    Makernote Version = 0210
    ISO Speed Used = 400
    Colour Mode = COLOR
    Quality = FINE
    White Balance = AUTO
    Sharpening = MED.H
    Focus Mode = MANUAL
    Flash Setting = NORMAL
    Auto Flash Mode =
    White Balance Bias Value = 0
    White Balance Red, Blue Coefficients = 450/256, 495/256, 256/256, 256/256
    000D = 00, 01, 06, 00
    Exposure Diff = 01, 01, 0C, 00
    ThumbOffset = 2650
    Flash Compensation = 00, 01, 06, 00
    ISO Speed Requested = 400
    Photo corner coordinates = 0, 0, 3008, 2000
    0017 = 00, 01, 06, 00
    001B = 0, 3040, 2014, 3040, 2014, 0, 0
    001D = 9006041
    001E = 1
    001F = 30, 31, 30, 30, 02, 00, 00, 00
    Tone Compensation (Contrast) = AUTO
    Lens Type = 1
    Lens Min/Max Focal Length, Max Aperture = 0/10, 0/10, 0/10, 0/10
    Flash Used = Flash Not Used
    Auto Focus Area = 00, 00, 00, 00
    Bracketing & Shooting Mode = 33
    008A = 255
    008B = 00, 01, 0C, 00
    Colour Mode = MODE3a
    Lighting Type = NATURAL
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    Hue Adjustmen = 0
    Noise Reduction = OFF
    0097 = 30, 32, 30, 38, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 10, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 08, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 02, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 80, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 80, 00, 20, 00, 20, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00, 08, 00, 00, 00, 00, 04, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00, 00, 04, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 40, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 10, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 40, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 10, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 78, 49, 8B, 3E, 62, F7, FC, B6, 5D, B5, 7E, BA, 67, 6C, 08, 09, 80, 45, B3, 56, AA, 4E, 65, CC, E5, 49, 27, 98, 2D, FB, FC, B6, 88, 67, DF, EE, F0, 00, C9, 03, 68, E2, CF, 26, F7, C8, E1, 4C, 90, 06, 03, FB, 38, C8, 37, A6, F4, CC, 77, 69, BC, 67, CB, E7, D9, E8, 6F, 5F, C0, 16, D9, 15, 7E, 91, 1F, 9A, 82, E7, B5, F4, A1, F2, 53, 06, CB, AF, 04, CC, 05, AD, C6, 52, 4F, BB, 98, E8, A9, D9, 7A, 8E, 13, 07, 6C, 44, 8D, 45, 6E, 0A, 17, 93, 80, E0, B1, F1, A2, C6, 5A, 5F, D5, BC, 14, DD, 17, C2, DE, 6B, 69, D8, B8, 09, CB, FE, A2, B7, 3D, 34, 9C, 75, BF, 7A, A6, 43, 51, D0, C0, 21, F3, 36, EA, 0F, A5, AC, 24, 0D, 67, 32, 6E, 1B, 39, C8, C8, 39, 1B, 6E, 32, 67, 0D, 24, AC, A5, 0F, EA, 36, F3, 21, C0, D0, 51, 43, A6, 7B, BF, 74, 9C, 35, 3D, B6, A2, FF, CB, 08, B8, D9, 69, 6A, DE, C3, 17, DC, 14, BD, D5, 5E, 5A, C7, A3, F0, B0, E1, 81, 92, 16, 0B, AD, 44, 8C, 45, 6D, 06, FD, 8E, CF, D6, A8, EA, 9B, B9, 4E, 52, D1, AC, 82, CD, 1F, 82, CA, 03, 55, CD, AC, B4, B1, EF, 8A, 86, 10, 11, 74, 50, 9B, 57, 85, 17, 2B, A9, 9A, F8, C9, 0B, BD, E2, 77, 7D, F4, DC, 35, FF, 3A, E6, 03, 91, 90
    0098 = 30, 32, 30, 32, 78, 49, 8B, 3E, 62, F7, FD, 74, 5C, B5, 7F, BA, 66, 83, 11, 10, 80, 61, B3, 76, AA, 4F, 65, EC, E4, 4D, 27, 72
    009A = 605/100, 605/100
    009E = 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    00A2 = 2211627
    00A3 = 0
    Total Number of Shutter Releases for Camera = 20327
    00A8 = 30, 31, 30, 32, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, FF, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00
    Image optimisation = CUSTOM
    Saturation = ENHANCED
    Digital Vari-Program =
    00B0 = 30, 31, 30, 30, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00
    00B1 = 0

    I've put the shutter activation number in bold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    I use exiftool from the command line and it returns pretty much the same amount of info, bar the hex code. Still absolutely no use for a 5D though, the info isn't there to begin with.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    i've a d50 and it aint got that,none of the hex data either... boo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭quilmore


    i've a d50 and it aint got that,none of the hex data either... boo

    have you tried opanda? you should get it with a nikon D50


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