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Are Irish people nasty?

  • 30-04-2008 5:33pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    I just lost my passport, tore the place apart, and emailed the apposite place to find out what to do. No answer a day later, so I phoned up, and got a guy with a certain air of cold satisfaction at my plight.

    It struck me then that this attitude has become common among Irish people you encounter in the course of the day.

    What happened? Irish people used to be nice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Move to thunderdome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭rollie


    money happened....all hail the recession, people will become nicer (after going through a phase of being even more a$$holier the we already are)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭truecrippler


    We're nasty in the sack apparently. In a good way of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    No, only Dublin people are nasty.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    No, only Dublin people are nasty.


    qft

    qf-mf-t


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Your first mistake is assuming that 1 Irish person = 4 million Irish people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    luckat wrote: »
    I just lost my passport, tore the place apart, and emailed the apposite place to find out what to do. No answer a day later, so I phoned up, and got a guy with a certain air of cold satisfaction at my plight.

    It struck me then that this attitude has become common among Irish people you encounter in the course of the day.

    What happened? Irish people used to be nice.

    He probably laughed at your stupidity..... I mean FFS something as important as your passport. You're like the people who can't remember their bank account number. Stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    luckat wrote: »
    I just lost my passport, tore the place apart, and emailed the apposite place to find out what to do. No answer a day later, so I phoned up, and got a guy with a certain air of cold satisfaction at my plight.

    It struck me then that this attitude has become common among Irish people you encounter in the course of the day.

    What happened? Irish people used to be nice.

    Maybe if you are encountering this alot in the course of your day the problem is not with everyone else but with you. Maybe you're going around with the wrong attitude, I know several people that go around with a big fukcing attitude on them all the time and then complain about how nasty everyone seems to be these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    No, only Dublin people are nasty.

    True.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    The guy probably hears twenty plus people a day telling him their particular hard luck story, as if expecting hiom to be able to find it or to magically replace it with a shiny new one...I'd have gained a pretty supercilious attitude to people by now if I was in the same position. Money, celtic tiger and Irish people have f*ck all to do with it...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭Phantasm


    Of course we're not. Sure we're all dotes here!
    It's about the individual, not the nation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    luckat wrote: »
    I just lost my passport, tore the place apart, and emailed the apposite place to find out what to do. No answer a day later, so I phoned up, and got a guy with a certain air of cold satisfaction at my plight.

    Maybe he heard how terrible your spelling is and that turned him off you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭skyhighflyer


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Maybe he heard how terrible your spelling is and that turned him off you.

    Ownage². I'll let someone else field this one:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭CJay


    I live in Mayo and everyone is perfectly lovely....even the civil servants!!!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Maybe he heard how terrible your spelling is and that turned him off you.

    Maybe you should ring Oxford university and tell them you can't find a dictionary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    luckat wrote: »
    I just lost my passport, tore the place apart, and emailed the apposite place to find out what to do. No answer a day later, so I phoned up, and got a guy with a certain air of cold satisfaction at my plight.
    Maybe he heard how terrible your spelling is and that turned him off you.
    AnonoBoy, thou hast messed up mightily. Good thing we're all nice here and no one minds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    Hmm, a few of the answers here have kind of proved my point :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    luckat wrote: »
    I just lost my passport, tore the place apart, and emailed the apposite place to find out what to do. No answer a day later, so I phoned up, and got a guy with a certain air of cold satisfaction at my plight.

    It struck me then that this attitude has become common among Irish people you encounter in the course of the day.

    What happened? Irish people used to be nice.

    You got one bad person on the phone and u come to this conclusion ?! :rolleyes:

    That case if you pass though US Customs you will probably think their the Great Satan

    Every Country has its good and bad apples, ffs i swear i see these threads all too often on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    luckat wrote: »
    It struck me then that this attitude has become common among Irish people you encounter in the course of the day.

    In relation to customer service staff (which your initial experience came from), I can understand why they are cold and appear uncaring. Every customer who rings up any company ever, expects something (anything) done immediately.

    Its a catch 22 situation which we've bred in this country, we want everything now. We can't provide everything now. Customer gets pissed off because they believe supplier is arsing about. Supplier is pissed of because his customers are too demanding with unrealistic expectations. No one wins, everyone loses and gets pissed off along the way.

    Meh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    connundrum wrote: »
    In relation to customer service staff (which your initial experience came from), I can understand why they are cold and appear uncaring. Every customer who rings up any company ever, expects something (anything) done immediately.

    Well, no.

    I wasn't particularly commenting on my own phone call, just using it as an example.

    What I'm saying, if I may reiterate, is that I've noticed that many Irish people have a cold, slightly sneering attitude. I'm wondering where this came from, and why Irish people - as a culture, as a group, as an agreed way of behaving - seem to have become so nasty, when they used to be so nice.

    We don't treat each other as if we like each other any more - and I think it's probably a bad strategy for our survival.


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  • I know it's a generalisation but I think Irish people are incredible begrudgers. It's something I've noticed having lived in a few countries, and don't notice as much elsewhere. Should you share any piece of good news, the attitude is usually 'oh right, very nice....' accompanied by a surly or disinterested expression. Any time anyone in my group of friends starts going out with someone, the attitude of the rest of the girls is jealous and begrudging, instead of being happy for the person. Should you do well in an exam or essay, everyone seems to hate you. If anyone gets a compliment of some kind, there's always someone to put them down - for example, a guy told one of my friends she looked like a celebrity and another friend said 'no she doesn't really, X is far thinner' or something. I know people are like this everywhere to a certain extent, but it's especially bad here. I wouldn't say most people are nasty in general but I don't like that aspect - perhaps that's what you've noticed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    No, only Dublin people are nasty.


    GDMFSOB! FACT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    CJay wrote: »
    I live in Mayo and everyone is perfectly lovely....even the civil servants!!!

    "My lovely Mayo Mammy making lots of tea...My lovely Mayo Mammy....."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭LaVidaLoca


    "What I'm saying, if I may reiterate, is that I've noticed that many Irish people have a cold, slightly sneering attitude."

    It's largely low self-esteem. We always had low self-esteem as a country, but in the past, as we were poor, our low self-esteem usually made us friendly, smiling, accomodating people who seemed to take life easy and not expect too much from it.

    Once we got hit with a tsunami of cash in the late 90's, we became, as a nation, rather like a not-particularly-talented black American kid from a poor background who makes it big overnight as a rap star.

    He may be covered in gold chains and be driving a limo, but in his head he's still poor, so he has to make hundreds of expensive videos, and pay for bikini wearing hoes, and pull his gun out at every opportunity to prove that it's not so.

    Somehow us Irish got it into our head that you have to pretend to be bored by everything in order to look like you're successful and important. In reality as a nation/culture, we are freaking TINY, about as significant in real terms as, say, Iowa, and we know it.

    We're kind of like a plain, homely looking girl who puts on a padded bra and rouge and 6 inch heels to look 'sexy', when we'd probably be better off leaving 'sexy' to someone else, and just trying to look nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    LaVidaLoca wrote: »
    Once we got hit with a tsunami of cash in the late 90's, we became, as a nation, rather like a not-particularly-talented black American kid from a poor background who makes it big overnight as a rap star.

    We're kind of like a plain, homely looking girl who puts on a padded bra and rouge and 6 inch heels to look 'sexy', when we'd probably be better off leaving 'sexy' to someone else, and just trying to look nice.

    Laughing my head off! Yes!

    And yes, maybe it's more Dublin than elsewhere - I was in Galway last week and everyone I dealt with was so nice and kind and lovely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Agamemnon wrote: »
    AnonoBoy, thou hast messed up mightily. Good thing we're all nice here and no one minds.

    Ah God Damn It. That's what I get I suppose.

    Let's see - can I blame the Irish education system for this one? Or just my own stupid bad spelling?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭LaVidaLoca


    Its definitely far worse in Dublin than in anywhere else. Galway's still got a certain something. And it tends to be far worse in the young who grew up after 1998 or so, as they aren't aware that Ireland ever wasn't like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Was dublin not voted the friendliest city in europe

    http://www.statssheet.com/articles/article52560.html


    Oh yes it was!
    FACT!

    So shut yer traps meck savages, all the mean people in dublin are culchies or dubs who have to deal with culchies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    Enough with the Dublin bashing
    Most of the populas of Ireland is based in one city - and most of them are not from Dublin. Hence, you have mixture of cultures in one place that DUBLIN people have to live/integrate/tolerate and all yer fecking boggers etc can do is give out about it.
    oh but its ok to come work/party/live there

    Also, the guy OP was talking to more than likely was not from (ie born n bred) Dublin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    LouOB wrote: »
    Enough with the Dublin bashing
    Most of the populas of Ireland is based in one city - and most of them are not from Dublin. Hence, you have mixture of cultures in one place that DUBLIN people have to live/integrate/tolerate and all yer fecking boggers etc can do is give out about it.
    oh but its ok to come work/party/live there

    Also, the guy OP was talking to more than likely was not from (ie born n bred) Dublin.



    Too true too true

    Filthy bog warriors and their moaning attitudes :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Rob_l wrote: »
    Was dublin not voted the friendliest city in europe

    http://www.statssheet.com/articles/article52560.html


    Oh yes it was!
    FACT!

    So shut yer traps meck savages, all the mean people in dublin are culchies or dubs who have to deal with culchies.

    QFMFTYMFCW

    -Funk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Rob_l wrote: »
    So shut yer traps meck savages, all the mean people in dublin are culchies or dubs who have to deal with culchies.

    Lol, hope Nerin sees that as it's definitely a quote to be remembered :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    rb_ie wrote: »
    Lol, hope Nerin sees that as it's definitely a quote to be remembered :D

    Firstly: Whats a nerin?
    and
    Secondly: is it Contagious?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭RealEstateKing


    was voted friendliest city by foreigners, that's the whole point.

    We Irish are very friendly to foreigners (especially Americans who have lots of money) but unfriendly and snobby towards each other.

    I cant remember the last time an Irish member of staff smiled at me. Whereas the Polish and the Chinese almost always do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you



    I cant remember the last time an Irish member of staff smiled at me. Whereas the Polish and the Chinese almost always do.

    Seriously? Where are you livin' cause i'm gonna move there. No matter how friendly i am they usually just grunt.

    -Funk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    News Flash:

    customer service in Ireland not up to scratch...

    Next:

    Irish man arrested police suspect begrudgery


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭RxQueen


    Rob_l wrote: »
    Firstly: Whats a nerin?
    and
    Secondly: is it Contagious?

    Nerin is a fellow boards member, and from what i get from rb_ie quote is, that he is a culchie living in dublin:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    was voted friendliest city by foreigners, that's the whole point.

    We Irish are very friendly to foreigners (especially Americans who have lots of money) but unfriendly and snobby towards each other.

    I cant remember the last time an Irish member of staff smiled at me. Whereas the Polish and the Chinese almost always do.


    err shopping earlier on in town - O'Connell street
    Lady was lovely who serviced me - EVEN SMILED:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭dh2007


    my family moved to the west of ireland for about ten years and I can tell you that people are, if anything, LESS friendly outside of Dublin.

    people from the country (particularly west of the shannon) have a serious begrudgery problem. The moment they clapped eyes on this dublin family who built a house that was different to all of their houses and planted a few trees they decided they hated us.

    there is a distinct closedmindedness that exists in some places that appalls me. I don't care if the person who moves in next to me is Polish, from the country, from Dublin as long as they're friendly etc. I'll always give people a chance.

    PS in saying this I am by no means saying that there aren't begrudgers or people who aren't friendly from Dublin. I just think that in general people are more liberal and open minded in more cosmopolitan areas such as Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    It's not a generalization it depends on the indivitual people and where you are, some places are rude some are not...I have to say though when I went to Galway last year I found the people alot more down to earth than up here in Dublin...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    Have to say that I had better experiences today - went to the local garda station and they were great there; they even had endless patience for a mad and aggressive guy, and stopped him bullying a young woman he was hassling. Then I went to the passport office with all the stuff signed up and they were nice there, joking with me and being friendly.

    Maybe the guy the other day just had his period. And maybe all the nasty types I meet in shops too. A menstrual sweep across Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Jobs on phones are a pain in the hole. I seen them in my job and it is constantly on the phone with a manager sitting close by and then having to do admin work. So no wonder most people don't get pleasant attitudes when they call up call centers. And before someone says then why don't they get a new job if they don't like it. The thing is that they do. Jobs based on phones have a huge turn around. At least from my experience.

    Irish people have nearly always been begrudgers to an extent. And culchies resent Dublin people for some reason. But if you look across the globe most people outside the capital city hate the people from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Floraidh


    I live here,sad to say but the saying about Ireland been friendly is a myth.I think it is worse if you are a female,woman tend to be bitchy and think every female moving in from another area or country is a threat.Even the Granny in the local church thinks you are after her old man if you sit anywhwere near.I have lived in other countries but never experience the wrath of an Irishwoman.Cant wait to leave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    people here in waterford are okay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Thread is ancient. Locked.


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