Sawyer in last episode (Spoilers)

ziedth

Has anyone noticed that basically out of nowhere that sawyer has turned into a hero character how he risked his life to save Claire and had the standoff with locke over hurley,

I think its pretty good now just seems way way out of left field.

Sherifu

I think Kate has softened his cough.

doonothing

I suppose.. He was practically the antagonist for the first series, this is pretty out of character... And I hope the character development arc for Sawyer isn't just "used to be bad, now he's good."
It was far away from his philosophy of "do whatever it takes to survive", that's for sure!

Mr.Nice Guy

Yeah it's a far cry from the Sawyer that took the guns in series 2.

I guess you could explain it by saying his time with Kate has softened him up.

doonothing

Ah yeah, but... Even since Kate has softened him a LOT, his policy has been very "I NEED TO SURVIVE", and nought else, it does seem awful out of character...

Unpossible

Look at the two characters involved, Hurley and Claire the two characters on the island who everyone seems to care about. He started having a soft spot for Hugo during the last season especially when Hugo saved them by knocking down Mr Friendly.
Prehaps he also feels for claire because of the death of his own mother when he was a kid. I don't think Sawyer was ever a "bad" character he just seemed to be trapped in a certain lifestyle which focused on the con-man sawyer who he has since killed.

Sad Professor

I agree with Unpossible that Sawyer was never a bad person. He suffers from a lot of self-loathing and has tried hard at times to make the other survivors hate him. But he has on numerous occasions, both past and present, shown himself to have many heroic qualities. His actions on the raft at the end of season 1 for example.

Sawyer is basically the Han Solo of Lost. Like Han he wants everyone to believe he doesn't care about anything except himself but, also like Han, he always comes through in the end. I reckon his killing of Cooper, the real Sawyer, had the effect of excising many of his demons and I expect we'll see a different Sawyer/James from here on.

I loved how protective he was of Hurley at the end of this ep: "You harm so much as one hair on his curly head... I'll kill you."

MikeHoncho

I think he had been a person who would have shyed away from building any real relationships in his past. The island has almost forced him to do so and thus he has become very attached to people like Hurley or Claire as they are probably the only real relationships he has ever had. He has finally met people that arent using him and he isnt using them for anything other than friendship. Also he wouldnt want to see Aaron growing up without a mother. Something he had to endure himself. So I would say his actions are very in character.

L31mr0d

when jack is around james is the beta, but when jack isn't around he assumes an alpha role. You'll notice this throughout the series'. Its the classic position of a male in the beta position to always be disagreeable and confrontational so as to hopefully assume the role of the alpha. It can be seen the instant James split from the beach losties, he started confronting Locke as Jake would of done in that position.

Once James is back on the beach with Jack we will see him assume the beta role again.

Ron DMC

L31mr0d wrote: »

when jack is around james is the beta, but when jack isn't around he assumes an alpha role. You'll notice this throughout the series'. Its the classic position of a male in the beta position to always be disagreeable and confrontational so as to hopefully assume the role of the alpha. It can be seen the instant James split from the beach losties, he started confronting Locke as Jake would of done in that position.

Once James is back on the beach with Jack we will see him assume the beta role again.

Very good point.

Kate only seems interested in him whenever Jack's not around, e.g. when they're in the cages, when Sawyer had headed off with Locke etc.

Jay Ru

Sad Professor wrote: »

I agree with Unpossible that Sawyer was never a bad person. He suffers from a lot of self-loathing and has tried hard at times to make the other survivors hate him. But he has on numerous occasions, both past and present, shown himself to have many heroic qualities. His actions on the raft at the end of season 1 for example.

Sawyer is basically the Han Solo of Lost. Like Han he wants everyone to believe he doesn't care about anything except himself but, also like Han, he always comes through in the end. I reckon his killing of Cooper, the real Sawyer, had the effect of excising many of his demons and I expect we'll see a different Sawyer/James from here on.

I loved how protective he was of Hurley at the end of this ep: "You harm so much as one hair on his curly head... I'll kill you."

cudn't of put it any better, hurly is like his chewbacha.

danniemcq

would kate not have 'hardened' him up? well for a while anyway

daisy123

I just REALLY hope they haven't made him all heroic just to kill him off!!!

ziedth

daisy123 wrote: »

I just REALLY hope they haven't made him all heroic just to kill him off!!!

Thats also a good point,

it would be far from the first time a series has done that

kellerman in prison break springs to mind,

I do like the development of him he's always been my fav character,

cooker3

I'd be shocked if he was killed off. I think he is 1 of the core characters who they will not kill off(well until final ever episode) which includes Jack, Kate, Locke and Hurley

Legend_DIT

cooker3 wrote: »

I'd be shocked if he was killed off. I think he is 1 of the core characters who they will not kill off(well until final ever episode) which includes Jack, Kate, Locke and Hurley

On one hand, I can see this logis - on the other... Jack was originally supposed to die after the first episode after making the audience think the show was pretty much all about him!

With LOST, I'd imagine that while the normal rules of television (i.e. don't kill off the characters you've developed into the 'core') may apply, it's not guaranteed.

Unpossible

He will probably be killed off or stay with the others on the island.

Maybe he will die in whatever incident kills Jin

abelard

I was thinkin a bit about Sawyer's change in personality ever since the last episodes of last season.

I think that Sawyer never wanted to have to step up and be a leader or the hero, but when it started to happen (eg when he went back to help the beach crew at the end of last season, and when he became friends with Hurley this season) he discovered a new side to his personality.

As had been said, I think the fact that he finally killed Cooper in the last series as well allowed him to get rid of alot of the baggage he had been carrying.

Either way, I think it is good to see a different dimension to him, but I too hipe they're not just building it up to kill him off a little down the road.