Need to nip bad run in the bud, need help.

looserock

Just so were clear on how a bad run works, for me at least, its the usual, I run bad, then it gets worse, by now I'm playing bad which result in getting out drawn for not being aggressive enough or whatever, it would break you if you let it.

My usual solution is simply stop playing for a while and this works a treat.

My problem is I have this weekend free, the family have gone away, its raining and I was looking forward to playing more poker in the next two days than I have in the last month.

Anyone got a quick fix, move up or down levels? watch some poker videos?

What works for you? thanks.

HoLLLLLaments

Watch sbrugby1. Take responsibility for your own results. Dont blame it on a bad run or running bad or bad luck or getting unlucky.

Play a lot of hands to eat up the variance.........but usually when someone says need a quick fix for running bad variance isnt the problem

eagle eye

I went through a horrific run live at one stage, just getting outdrawn in the crucial hands for maybe 15 tourneys. The only thing is to keep playing your game and don't change it, unless of course you think your game is bad as well. Thats a whole different matter.

Macspower

regular occurrance for me.....

normal fix for me is to move down a level and play more aggro... check your pt stats... you'll find them not as normal.... maybe post them here for advice?

if your multitabling reduce number of tables by 20% and see if it makes a difference...

run better.....

Mac

Glowingmind

When i'm playing badly (making an effort to call it like it is rather than saying i'm running bad), i usually stop playing holdem and spend some times trying to improve in other games at micro levels. For me this usually involves playing $1 2-7 lowball sngs and low stakes stud games.

El Stuntman

Sacrifice Your Family Pets To The Poker Gods

looserock

HoLLLLLaments wrote: »

Watch sbrugby1. Take responsibility for your own results. Dont blame it on a bad run or running bad or bad luck or getting unlucky.

Play a lot of hands to eat up the variance.........but usually when someone says need a quick fix for running bad variance isnt the problem

Please everyone dont be mistaken, Its ME where the problem lies, Im not even loosing any money for the week, YET, but I will be if I keep playing the way I am.

Could you post a link to Watch sbrugby1. anyway

HoLLLLLaments

looserock wrote: »

Please everyone dont be mistaken, Its ME where the problem lies, Im not even loosing any money for the week, YET, but I will be if I keep playing the way I am.

Could you post a link to Watch sbrugby1. anyway

www.cardrunners.com

Rb

I hear if you put your hand on Cookers head and walk around him three times anti-clockwise, you'll run better than you ever have before.

Glowingmind

El Stuntman wrote: »

Sacrifice Your Family Pets To The Poker Gods

Also, never EVER take poker advice from someone who capitalises all their words.

El Stuntman

Glowingmind wrote: »

Also, never EVER take poker advice from someone who capitalises all their words.

YOU'LL EAT THOSE WORDS MY FRIEND

looserock

Macspower wrote: »

regular occurrance for me.....

normal fix for me is to move down a level and play more aggro... check your pt stats... you'll find them not as normal.... maybe post them here for advice?

if your multitabling reduce number of tables by 20% and see if it makes a difference...

run better.....

Mac

Not great at analysing pt stats, I filtered to the last two days and they look the same as ever.

I will reduce from 4 to 3 tables or even two, that should help.

Glowingmind

El Stuntman wrote: »

YOU'LL EAT THOSE WORDS MY FRIEND

Never.




You rube.

El Stuntman

Glowingmind wrote: »

Never.

You rube.

lol, I have this image of a rube being something like this, am I close?

Glowingmind

That's a little too far gone, rubes are more like dimwits rather than deliverence style yokels.

El Stuntman

fair enough, was just trying to work out how much you were insulting me!

RedJoker

looserock wrote: »

Just so were clear on how a bad run works, for me at least, its the usual, I run bad, then it gets worse, by now I'm playing bad which result in getting out drawn for not being aggressive enough or whatever, it would break you if you let it.

My usual solution is simply stop playing for a while and this works a treat.

My problem is I have this weekend free, the family have gone away, its raining and I was looking forward to playing more poker in the next two days than I have in the last month.

Anyone got a quick fix, move up or down levels? watch some poker videos?

What works for you? thanks.

Yeah, you pretty much answered your own question there.

pok3rplaya

Pick a hand you played bad recently and were confused by and open pokerstove and get some paper and analyse the life out of it. Every aspect. EV calcs against various ranges and the works.

RoundTower

just don't play.

feeling you "have to" play will almost certainly make you play worse, imo this is one of the biggest reasons why people who "go pro" suddenly start doing so much worse.

Slash/ED

What Macs said. Drop down levels and ride it out, basically. The bad run is affecting your play and dropping down will help normalise this without risking your roll. After a while you should see your results improve then move back up.

SetOverSet

When I'm running bad, the first thing I do is check my stats on PT. You might find that because you're running bad you're trying to force the action and are playing too many hands/marginal hands OOP - for me anyway. I'll also spend a LOT of time analysing hands where I've made mistakes or couldv'e made more money etc., to try to learn from every mistake and plug any leaks.

looserock

RoundTower wrote: »

just don't play.

feeling you "have to" play will almost certainly make you play worse, imo this is one of the biggest reasons why people who "go pro" suddenly start doing so much worse.

Unfortunately I believe this is the only answer, its what I've been doing for a while now and serves me well.

And also while I'm certainly not a pro, I have been setting a weekly target recently and playing more than usual to achieve this.

Marq

move up levels.

Scouser in Dub

When I am playing bad and losing I put aside some cash to play at a higher level than I usually play and play really aggressively 3betting and 4 betting quite wide. One of my problems when I am playing terribly is that i go into check call mode a lot lose value when I am ahead let people catch up see MUTB and generally suck.

I move up rather than down as my normal game is €50 and if I move down I can't really be bothered but if I move up and am prepared to write off 3 buyins then it improves my game. Often I will show a profit but I do it only for a couple of hundred hands or until I have blown my buyins

looserock

Scouser in Dub wrote: »

One of my problems when I am playing terribly is that i go into check call mode a lot lose value when I am ahead let people catch up see MUTB and generally suck.

Thats it!

GrangeUtd

I usually tighten up. Avoid all marginal spots and nut peddle. Its low variance
and it will get your confidence back. At lower levels 25.50 - 1.2 you will still make money, people will always pay you off at these levels even the regs.

Some of my biggest winning sessions have been playing 16/12 nitty style and i never had bad downswings playing that style. Where as some of my biggest losing sessions have been playing 25/20 cause you get in so many marginal spots that can go either way.

I play 8 tables and its not exciting and i do lose value and fold
the winning hand on occasion but its worth it imo. Then with your confidence back you can open up your game a bit more.

Its the emotional side of poker that is a lot of peoples downfall myself included. Taking deep breaths and realising you played correctly is so important after you continually get sucked out on. Its the reaction to bad beats that leads people to spew money i do it all the time.

So many times 1 hand were i lose a buy in eg 200$ to a bad beat or hero call actually compounds and can cost me so much more. I estimate a hand played on tuesday i lost 260$ cost me over a 1000$ because i couldnt deal with it and it caused me to play like a complete fish. check calling etc.

So i followed my advice and played solid and nitty booked a few small wins since and am playing with confidence again and it feels great.

Whether winning or losing always keep VARIANCE in mind.

Scouser in Dub

looserock wrote: »

Thats it!

then Marq's advice is good

RedJoker

Scouser in Dub wrote: »

Marq's advice is good

QFT

White Knight

Play better imo

30something

To find out if it's variance or just bad play put your whole roll on red in virtual roulette. If you win, its bad play, lose and it must be variance.

Slash/ED

Solid advice, I tried this, and as expected it turned out it was bad variance.

looserock

Thanks for the helpful replies, what I did was move up to €2000 nl and blew my roll, sure that's poker for ya.

Actually I just didn't play, there isn't any quick fix for tilt, a rest is the only answer, for me at least.

Once again thanks,

Looserock.