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Simple log question

  • 24-04-2008 3:47pm
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    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I forget the easiest process to solve this. Any help appreciated.

    .0615log10(29+400x/530+18x) = -.07


Comments

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael Collins


    1) Divide both sides by that log coefficient

    2) Take the antilog of both sides i.e. exponentiate both sides with a base of ten - this will get rid of the log on the left.

    3) Solve for x.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Dufresne


    Exactly as Michael said, x is working out at about -1.53


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Thanks Michael, I was doing that but kept leaving out the - and getting a crazy answer. Cheers! This is for the sodium levels in a person. :s

    The answer is .02396... Dufresne. :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Dufresne


    Hi Tar - I just double checked that and got the same answer as before - I presumed the 10 you had after the word log meant log to the base 10 - if not sorry.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael Collins


    Dufresne wrote: »
    Hi Tar - I just double checked that and got the same answer as before - I presumed the 10 you had after the word log meant log to the base 10 - if not sorry.

    So did I actually. If it isn't 10 then when you come to using the antilog you have to use the same base. I don't see myself how you get 0.02396 as the answer. Are we both solving the same problem?
    .0615log10(29+400x/530+18x) = -.07


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Yes, the same question.
    When I say log 10, I mean the log button on my calculator. Which is to the base 10 by default yes? So yes, base 10.
    I used 10^x for antilog.
    I knew the answer from the other method I did so I know that I was meant to get .02...


    I'm not sure what you are doing, I may have explained it wrong. I should have just said 'log' and not 'log10'


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    .0615log10(29+400x/530+18x) = -.07

    => log10(29+400x/530+18x) = -1.138211382
    => (29+400x/530+18x) = .072742566
    => 1.309366191x + 38.55356 = 29 + 400x
    => 9.55356 = 398.6906338x
    => x = .023962338
    if not sorry.
    Don't be silly!
    Thanks for the help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Dufresne


    Yeah I see what happened - I took .0615log10(29+400x/530+18x) = -.07 literally as you typed it and you really meant .0615log10((29+400x)/(530+18x))= -.07

    The way you have it typed just looked like only the 400x was divided by the 530. I had too much time on my hands today - Sorry for all the confusion


    Just checked that and of course it gives x=0.02396


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Whoops! Sorry about that. I shouldn't just copy stuff from my A4 pad without checking over it. Thanks for wasting your time. :-)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael Collins


    Yeh I took it the same way as Dufresne. I guessed something was a bit off with it since you could just add the to x terms together: 400x/530+18x if you take it the literal way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


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    Yay for LaTeX.

    Code: [EQ] \ .0615 log_{10} \left(\frac{29+400 x}{530+18x}\right)= -.07 [/EQ]

    Mathbin


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Nice.


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