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Current state of Muay Thai in Ireland

  • 23-04-2008 11:02pm
    #1
    ezemska
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  • #2
    paddyc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭paddyc


    Ezemska



    I aint getting dragged into this at all so if you do reply i wont be replying to you...
    not only in this one particular club but in all of the non-IMC clubs in the country.

    I aint joined the IMC and I am quite brain dead but i canny remember talking to you bout this at all, in fact i dont even know you..

    introducing the concept of a "fighting license" and also requirements such as that a fighter must compete at an amateur level for a certain amount of time before progressing to a professional level. These restrictions seemed woefully unwelcomed by the non-IMC clubs.


    the concept... the concept...sweet jesus go into any amateur boxing club in the country and ask have you heard of ther NEW concept and you'll get slapped.... I aint in the IMC yet... but i can see that a licence book is the way to go.....

    Fightin amateur before fightin pro...woefully unwelcomed by the non IMC clubs... better re check your facts matey....


    If i was to add my 2 pennies worth... there aint no place for this on this forum... go air the dirty laundry else where..... there people trying to patch things up at the moment and get the muay thai show on the road again... and this will only serve to widen that gap.... so if you do print your article might i request that you dont state all non IMC clubs. thanks


    paddy



    cheers paddy


  • #3
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Interesting post. Some loose generalisation there alright as Paddy pointed out. I also wont be dragged into any political discussion, mainly because I don't have a clue. Some of the IMC representatives post on here, so I'm sure you'll get a (probably angry) reply from them.

    What magazine will your article be in? You seem a bit shy about naming it for some reason that I can't fathom.
    paddyc wrote: »
    Fightin amateur before fightin pro...woefully unwelcomed by the non IMC clubs... better re check your facts matey....

    I think s/he was talking about a forced fixed period of amateur fighting Paddy...e.g. you have to fight as an amateur for a minimum of X years. I suppose this mightn't be helpful to someone who's progressing quickly because they're training hard or fighting regularly, but I think we can all agree that anyone fighting at pro level here without doing some amateur fights first will get their ass handed to them.

    Anyway, as a first post it's fairly inflammatory and without being up front about who you are or what magazine you're writing for (and I can see no reason not to be if you're going to be printing an article anyway), I'd say there's a fairly hefty chance that you're a troll.


  • #4
    Bridgestone Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭Bridgestone Man


    Hi,

    No one can stop you doing an article on the above as this is your right and it is likely to enflame some feeling in the Muay Thai community. Though there may be some differences in Muay Thai especially between as you put it IMC and non-IMC due to politics, differances of opinion, personalities etc. I think instead of doing a covert listening and questioning within clubs you should ask the coaches or students and state exactly what it is for and you might get a more balanced answer and not a flipant throw away bravodo comments/views of when "me muay thai buddies are around".

    The state of play is as you state two sided but if you ask all coaches a single body at the end of the day is what we have to strive for and differences have to be sorted out and will be at some time in the future. I hope all coaches will ignore any article that you will be writing so as it will not make full unification in the future more problematic. As Khannie said as a fighter he does not want or care to be involved in the politics of the sport, that is up to the coaches and we will sort it out. So good luck with your article but I for one wont be reading it.

    Regards,
    Paul Kelly,
    Head Coach,
    THE BRIDGESTONE GYM.


  • #5
    cletus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    I have nothing to do with Muay Thai at all, in any capacity. Having stated that I have some questions.

    Firstly, why not name the magazine for which you are wotking.

    Secondly, what is your association, if any, with Muay Thai in Ireland

    Thirdly, are you writing this article freelance, or have you been assigned to it.

    Lastly, are we to believe that the coaches you spoke to who gave you this information do not want to be named, as I assume you will need to name them in the article in order to give it any weight


  • #6
    paddyc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭paddyc


    The club in question is very well run, is not expensive to train in, has good trainers and talented fighters


    I thought it was my gym when i read this :) who elses gym could it be :) sits back and waits for abuse...

    paddy


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  • #7
    Nothingcompares
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    If I had an opportunity to write an article for a magazine distributed in 17 countries about Muay Thai in Ireland I wouldn't waste a word on politics.


  • #8
    Kalakick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭Kalakick


    Was just wondering what is the major sanctioning body for MT fights over here (i.e. title fights). Is there more than one, is one better than the other etc?

    There is no 'Australian Muay Thai Council' as such 'down under', simply a governing representation of the WMC which is non-for-profit and a well known sanctioning body of australian titles & fight nights.

    I know of some fighters that prefer titles under certain councils, apparently some (and I won't quote which ones because I can't 100% remember!) aren't worth the belt they're written on?


  • #9
    Siamdragon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭Siamdragon


    FACTS = The Current state of Muaythai in Ireland is great and growing all the time and we are producing some excellent Fighters

    Who ever you are trying to put together this report you haven’t got a clue of what you are talking about regarding either side of Muaythai matters in Ireland
    But I will state one thing the Irish Muaythai Council is a non profit making organization and is the Irish Nation Body for Muaythai in Ireland
    The IMC takes it rules and regulations from the only Muaythai world recognized body in the Sport WMC/IFMA
    Who are recognized by IOC, GAISF, i.e.…. you can’t get bigger representation then these two groups in any sport,
    As regards to the other Clubs at the moment out side the IMC we have some small differences at the moment but these things we are sorting out between ourselves internally, and we are sure in the not to far off future we will all be part of the IMC again.
    But like every great achievement things take time
    I will not be posting again on this matter, and I would like to ask all our Muaythai people not to comment on this matter what ever side you are on,
    As views of people who are not directly involved in the situation is no Point of View at all

    Craig O’Flynn
    IMC


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