GAA ripping off taxpayers?

Essexboy

North Sligo residents got a fright last week when brown envelopes bearing a harp were delivered through the post.
First thought was "taxman", but it was not. It was however, a demand for money - from St Molaise Gaels, the GAA club which covers Cliffoney, Grange, Maugherow etc.
Who gave the club official-paid envelopes? and what a brass neck the GAA have using them, spending taxpayers' money to benefit themselves. If Sligo Rovers did that there would be an outcry. :mad:

guinnessdrinker

We got a flyer from the club to our house but it wasn't deliverd in an envelope so I'm not sure if it's the same thing. It was given by hand.

The flyer I seen wasn't a "demand" for money either, it was just a piece of paper outlining the clubs development plans and the cost involved. So they need to hold some fundraisers to raise the money.

I don't know anything about the envelopes with the harp on them though. Did they have a postage stamp on them also?

donegalman1

Every community organisation seems to have to rely on charity locally, but the GAA received a massive grant for Croke Park which has some benefits for the state I am sure. It is however a very rich organisation and should do more to distribute to small clubs especially with their grants and sponsorship.

No doubt they will call around and look for donations and people will feel obiged at their doorsteps, but the collectors should give details as to what the central council of the organisation will donate.

starbelgrade

Essexboy wrote: »

what a brass neck the GAA have using them, spending taxpayers' money to benefit themselves.

This on top of the €60 million of taxpayers money the GAA received to renovate Croke Park?

Essexboy

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

We got a flyer from the club to our house but it wasn't deliverd in an envelope so I'm not sure if it's the same thing. It was given by hand.

The flyer I seen wasn't a "demand" for money either, it was just a piece of paper outlining the clubs development plans and the cost involved. So they need to hold some fundraisers to raise the money.

I don't know anything about the envelopes with the harp on them though. Did they have a postage stamp on them also?

The harp means they were "official" envelopes and treated as post paid (no stamp needed) - in other words the taxpayer footed the bill for the GAA's circular. They must have been supplied from some Civil Service office.

The leaflet we got said people would come around to the house looking for €5 per week which could be intimidating for some and puts pressure on people who do not want to give regularly.

starbelgrade

Essexboy wrote: »

The harp means they were "official" envelopes and treated as post paid (no stamp needed) - in other words the taxpayer footed the bill for the GAA's circular. They must have been supplied from some Civil Service office.

The leaflet we got said people would come around to the house looking for €5 per week which could be intimidating for some and puts pressure on people who do not want to give regularly.

I will have no hesitation in telling them that they won't be getting the steam off my ....

TequilaMockingBird

Jeez, just say no thanks! End of story.

starbelgrade

sueme wrote: »

Jeez, just say no thanks! End of story.

I will say whatever I see fit, thank you very much.

guinnessdrinker

Essexboy wrote: »

The harp means they were "official" envelopes and treated as post paid (no stamp needed) - in other words the taxpayer footed the bill for the GAA's circular. They must have been supplied from some Civil Service office.

I know that evelopes with the harp on them come from public service departments and civil service etc. but I'm pretty sure they still need to have either a stamp or that they have to be franked before being posted.

TequilaMockingBird

starbelgrade wrote: »

I will say whatever I see fit, thank you very much.

Bad day?


Edit: btw I don't think the letters with a harp need to be franked.

Big_Mac

starbelgrade wrote: »

I will say whatever I see fit, thank you very much.

Indeed, you seem a little short this morning starbelgrade.

starbelgrade

mcgowan.b wrote: »

Indeed, you seem a little short this morning starbelgrade.

The postman didn't close my gate this morning.

Big_Mac

starbelgrade wrote: »

The postman didn't close my gate this morning.

ROFL. Good one Starbelgrade, good one:)

SligoBrewer

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

I'm pretty sure they still need to have either a stamp or that they have to be franked before being posted.

As long as they have the harp, they'll be let go free.

You know where to bring your sheckels now, to the fully tax compliant Showgrounds.

Jabby

Essexboy wrote: »

The harp means they were "official" envelopes and treated as post paid (no stamp needed) - in other words the taxpayer footed the bill for the GAA's circular. They must have been supplied from some Civil Service office.

The leaflet we got said people would come around to the house looking for €5 per week which could be intimidating for some and puts pressure on people who do not want to give regularly.

Ah Come on. Do you really think some little oul'fella or oul'wan calling to someones door looking for €5 would be classed as 'intimidating'?
If you don't want to support them, then don't bother. Say NO.
Can't see what the big deal is anyway. It wouldn't be the first time the taxpayer funded the G.A.A. now would it? Personally, I don't have a lot of time for the G.A.A. as an organization on a national level. They have many faults but these group of committed local people are just doing their best for some youngsters of the area....Give them a break. I think their plans are noble, ambitious and deserve encouragement.

Essexboy

Jabby wrote: »

Ah Come on. Do you really think some little oul'fella or oul'wan calling to someones door looking for €5 would be classed as 'intimidating'?
If you don't want to support them, then don't bother. Say NO.
Can't see what the big deal is anyway. It wouldn't be the first time the taxpayer funded the G.A.A. now would it? Personally, I don't have a lot of time for the G.A.A. as an organization on a national level. They have many faults but these group of committed local people are just doing their best for some youngsters of the area....Give them a break. I think their plans are noble, ambitious and deserve encouragement.

Using Government envelopes like this is THEFT! the equivalent of stealing money.
The people calling door-to-door are more likely to be 3 or 4 big country fellows,trying to build a "Bertie Bowl" in a country village.
After the incident in Waterford who can trust the GAA's handling of money given to its officials?

Jabby

Essexboy wrote: »

Using Government envelopes like this is THEFT! the equivalent of stealing money.
The people calling door-to-door are more likely to be 3 or 4 big country fellows,trying to build a "Bertie Bowl" in a country village.
After the incident in Waterford who can trust the GAA's handling of money given to its officials?

Not sure about the envelopes. I still don't think it's such a big deal. I hope if it were big country fellows who were calling to the doors It wouldn't be too upsetting for you. Its not as if its Vito Corleone and the family or Tony Soprano that will be going around.
As for the incident in Waterford . That was more to do with human frailty.
Nobody's perfect. Anyway, haven't there been more serious things going on in other codes such as Show Jumping, Swimming, Horse racing etc. The G.A.A are not perfect by any means but they are doing their best.

Essexboy

Jabby wrote: »

Not sure about the envelopes. I still don't think it's such a big deal. I hope if it were big country fellows who were calling to the doors It wouldn't be too upsetting for you. Its not as if its Vito Corleone and the family or Tony Soprano that will be going around.
As for the incident in Waterford . That was more to do with human frailty.
Nobody's perfect. Anyway, haven't there been more serious things going on in other codes such as Show Jumping, Swimming, Horse racing etc. The G.A.A are not perfect by any means but they are doing their best.

"If possible honestly, if not, somehow make money"
Nothing personal but that seems to be the Sligo motto.
I can think of a few land sales in the area where there was some little scam and the perpetrator was always surprised/indignant if found out. "I didn't mean any harm" is a common excuse (translation "I just wanted to screw them for more money").

Jabby

Essexboy wrote: »

"If possible honestly, if not, somehow make money"
Nothing personal but that seems to be the Sligo motto.
I can think of a few land sales in the area where there was some little scam and the perpetrator was always surprised/indignant if found out. "I didn't mean any harm" is a common excuse (translation "I just wanted to screw them for more money").

Getting a little carried away here don't you think.

muffler

Essexboy wrote: »

"If possible honestly, if not, somehow make money"
Nothing personal but that seems to be the Sligo motto.
I can think of a few land sales in the area where there was some little scam and the perpetrator was always surprised/indignant if found out. "I didn't mean any harm" is a common excuse (translation "I just wanted to screw them for more money").

Where does all this fit in with the thread title?

Essexboy

Jabby wrote: »

Getting a little carried away here don't you think.

I expect to be in the Circuit Court before the end of the year - the only question is who sues first, me or the person who sold me a site. It is either that or knock down part of my house.
It could be sorted out on informal basis (we are neighbours), if everyone would sit down and talk but that is out.
How would you feel if you were my shoes?

Jabby

Essexboy wrote: »

I expect to be in the Circuit Court before the end of the year - the only question is who sues first, me or the person who sold me a site. It is either that or knock down part of my house.
It could be sorted out on informal basis (we are neighbours), if everyone would sit down and talk but that is out.
How would you feel if you were my shoes?

..............in your shoes or your GAA boots?

muffler

This thread was started by Essexboy to discuss the notion that the GAA were using "government envelopes" and were ripping off the tax payers. It has now ended up with his last 2 posts containing mention of land sale scams and mention of having to go to the circuit court.

Completely way off topic.

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