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Premier Periclase pollution, dust anyone notice it?

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  • 23-04-2008 12:26am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭


    has anyone noticed that light white dust covering bushes and grass in the fields on the south and north banks of the Boyne ner the permier periclase factory on the Boyne Rd in Drogheda?

    a friend of mine recently came down to go to work to find a light flim of this on his car a while back, and it has happened on a few occassions, you can see huge plumes of this white smoke ( factory says its steam) and it seems that late at night more comes out than during the day..

    surely there have to be some health implications in realtion to this?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    It's dust from the manufacturing process. The plant has inches of it on the ground, the high winds pick it up and carry it when it's dry out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭what_car


    It's dust from the manufacturing process. The plant has inches of it on the ground, the high winds pick it up and carry it when it's dry out.

    acutally its from the chimney, if you look at the output closely is not just smoke.

    its dust from the chimney, of what it is im not sure. but it cant be good; and they shouldnt be allowed to allow their waste to blow around like that too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭gipi


    My house is across the river from periglase and the dust is so bad I could wash my car and windows every day. I've got skylights in the roof, and they are constantly grubby.

    I just live with the dirt ;) and hope my lungs look better than my car :)....dust-coloured car at next vehicle change!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭what_car


    gipi wrote: »
    My house is across the river from periglase and the dust is so bad I could wash my car and windows every day. I've got skylights in the roof, and they are constantly grubby.

    I just live with the dirt ;) and hope my lungs look better than my car :)....dust-coloured car at next vehicle change!

    have a read of this from an poblacht feb 1999.. very interesting reading



    Premier Periclase - who polices the polluter?

    Roisín de Rossa and James Quirke report on alarm about pollution from a factory in Drogheda


    There is environmental crisis brewing in Drogheda which does not appear to have any quick solution. The crisis concerns Cement Roadstone's plant above Drogheda, Premier Periclase, which local people fear is seriously polluting the atmosphere and sea.
    ``Most mornings we wake up to a cloud of white dust that rolls over the fields and local housing, leaving a dry white dust covering everything,'' says Sheila Martin, Secretary of the
    Drogheda Cleaner Air Group, an umbrella group of different organisations all concerned about the factory's emissions.
    Premier Periclase use a sintermagnesia process. They take magnesium out of the sea water (from the Boyne alongside) and using lime which it quarries five miles away at Mullaghcrone, produces a fine white power, which is processed, with the addition of chromium oxide, at very high temperatures of 2,300 degrees C into briquettes for use in steel plants.
    The plant, which has been operating since 1972, employs 160 people.
    Sulphuric and nitrous oxides billow out of the smoke stacks, whilst an amazingly large effluent of 190,000 cubic metres per day, very highly alkaline (pH 11) is discharged into the sea, a mile out from shore. Local divers have said the mouth of the pipe is regularly clogged with dead sea life.
    The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) considered Premier's application for a licence to continue, and subject to 13 conditions, granted it just before Christmas.
    Many local residents, and groups, including the Drogheda Clean Air Group, objected to the licence at the start of January. The EPA conditions were not sufficient, they said.
    However, subsequently the Company itself brazenly objected to the conditions imposed by the EPA, which they say will cost in the region of £5 to £6 million, which they cannot afford.
    Cement Roadstone Holdings, which owns Premier Periclase, had a great year last year. They made pre-tax profits of £253m. CRH is of course a multimillion pound company, which has enjoyed 80% of the Irish cement market in these great times for building materials.
    In fact it's not the first time Premier Periclase has voiced objections. Cionnaith O'Heiligh, who is one of the main voices in the Drogheda Clean Air Group, and a Sinn Fein candidate, explains how three years ago the company had objected to the siting of 121 new houses near their factory, on grounds of health risk. ``Yet now, with Our Ladies College with 900 students just down the road, and the Grammar School just across the river, Premier is refusing to comply with the minimal conditions the EPA has imposed. It's unbelievable. What are the costs to our children's good health?'' Cionnaith asks.
    Maeve Healey, who is assistant chairperson of the group, and a long time campaigner, points out that Drogheda already has registered the highest death rate in the country from respiratory
    illnesses. ``The company tell us that chromium oxide is used in very small amounts and fully bound into the final product. But the company uses 258 tonnes of Chromium 3 Hydroxide every year, which is a substantial amount. Chromium Oxide is carcinogenic and causes respiratory disease. How do we know that its use in the factory has not contributed to the high cancer rates in Drogheda?'' asks Maeve.
    The trouble is they don't know, and its costs a great deal of money to find out. The Drogheda Clean Air Group have sought advice from a marine biologist and a chemist and other specialists, but as Sheila Martin points out, how can we evaluate their results.
    There were many objections to giving Premier a licence. The EPA lists them: fallout is affecting woodland, everything is smothered in smoke containing grit and dust, paint on cars is damaged, obnoxious and choking smells, white dust settles everywhere , the squirrels and birds in Beaulieu Wood are gone, there are dead fish at the end of the effluent sea pipe, and the mussel stocks in the Boyne Estuary may be affected. The EPA noted them, but did not say what was to be done about them.
    ``The real problem,'' says Sheila Martin, ``is with the EPA.'' The EPA had to adjudicate on Premier's objections to complying with the conditions the EPA laid down.
    The standard practice of a company unwilling to spend money to clean up their process is to appeal to what is known as BATNEEC (Best Available Technology Not Entailing Excessive Cost). In practice this means ``everybody else does it, so why shouldn't we?''
    Drogheda's sintermagnesia process is only used elsewhere in India and Australia. The EPA report points out that these plants don't have any other abatement technology to remove the nitrous oxides, so they conclude that present pollution control methods are BATNEEC for Drogheda, and therefore acceptable. In the absence of controlling legislation what is good enough for them is good enough for us.
    Ireland at the moment is being prosecuted by the European Commission over its failure to implement laws aimed at reducing air pollution. Following a complaint from
    Earthwatch, the EU claims that Irish law does not comply with a 1966 directive on monitoring air quality and imposing proper standards. The Department of Environment replies that they ``are nearly finished drafting them''. Meanwhile there is no independent standard which the EPA must impose.
    ``But,'' says Sheila, ``the problem doesn't end there. What really worries us is who is going to police Premier implementing the conditions which the EPA does finally imposes?'' Part of the
    EPA licence conditions are that Premier should monitor their emissions themselves, and pay for it. ``What good is that?'' asks Sheila. ``Why, it's like Jesse James policing the banks.''
    And worse - there isn't even a law to guide Jesse James in his police work.

    Contents Page for this Issue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Sheila Martin


    Was just looking at the comments Re Premier Periclase. As attached article back in 1999 when they were applying for their licence. We set up a Group called Drogheda Cleaner Air . I was Secretary/Spokes person. We got what we wanted and the conditions laid down were good. But then it comes down to the monitoring and Premier do that themesleves.
    Over that past few days you probably are aware that the area of greenhills has been coverd with cement dust, it seems came in from loading a boat and the wind spread this all over Greenhills. It is the worst we have ever seen it (I live in Greenhills). We contacted the factory they denied this was their fault, we then went to the EPA who contacted Premir. Today there is a different twist as they are meeting one person from each effected area.
    Many people complained over the weekend.
    This meeting is on Friday...if you have anything to add please contact me

    We had the support of 10 medical consultants in this fight back in 1999. Its our health at the end of the day

    Sheila Martin


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭what_car


    Was just looking at the comments Re Premier Periclase. As attached article back in 1999 when they were applying for their licence. We set up a Group called Drogheda Cleaner Air . I was Secretary/Spokes person. We got what we wanted and the conditions laid down were good. But then it comes down to the monitoring and Premier do that themesleves.
    Over that past few days you probably are aware that the area of greenhills has been coverd with cement dust, it seems came in from loading a boat and the wind spread this all over Greenhills. It is the worst we have ever seen it (I live in Greenhills). We contacted the factory they denied this was their fault, we then went to the EPA who contacted Premir. Today there is a different twist as they are meeting one person from each effected area.
    Many people complained over the weekend.
    This meeting is on Friday...if you have anything to add please contact me

    We had the support of 10 medical consultants in this fight back in 1999. Its our health at the end of the day

    Sheila Martin

    hi Shiela, thanks for the info.. but, on the dublin road in drogheda, cars are regularly covered with fine dust, that comes from the chimneys, rises up travels in the wind and then settles down, i recall recently seeing an article where a similar thing happened in the limerick area, and cars paintwork was badly damaged.

    premier, are a messy shower just look along the boyne road, and the place is a mess.

    is there anyone in the european commission that we can complain to , as the Irish government are doing squat, and premier seem to do as they wish.

    premier are polluters of the highest order.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭what_car


    gipi wrote: »
    My house is across the river from periglase and the dust is so bad I could wash my car and windows every day. I've got skylights in the roof, and they are constantly grubby.

    I just live with the dirt ;) and hope my lungs look better than my car :)....dust-coloured car at next vehicle change!

    you should complain!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭what_car


    gipi wrote: »
    My house is across the river from periglase and the dust is so bad I could wash my car and windows every day. I've got skylights in the roof, and they are constantly grubby.

    I just live with the dirt ;) and hope my lungs look better than my car :)....dust-coloured car at next vehicle change!


    the below excerpt is taken from the web link below.
    http://ec.europa.eu/ireland/press_office/news_of_the_day/airquality_en.htm

    Air pollution has impacts on human health ranging from minor effects on the respiratory system to reduced lung function, asthma, chronic bronchitis and reduced life expectancy. Air pollution in the European Union, notably from fine particulate matter and ground-level ozone, causes the premature death of almost 370,000 citizens every year, reducing average life expectancy by an average of 9 months.




    in our case the particulate matter is the dust from the chimneys!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Kaylee


    Hi Sheila/everyone,

    I live in Greenhills too and noticed the dust covering my car. Just wondering if there was any outcome to the meeting?

    It's crazy what Corporate Ireland is allowed to get away with :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭what_car


    Kaylee wrote: »
    Hi Sheila/everyone,

    I live in Greenhills too and noticed the dust covering my car. Just wondering if there was any outcome to the meeting?

    It's crazy what Corporate Ireland is allowed to get away with :mad:

    some of the ingredients that they use are carcinogens i believe.

    complain to the EPA .. i emailed minister gormley had heard nothing from him..


    maybe the factory owners will realise its cheaper to run the factory in eastern europe and might move there ...


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