magpies

the hunter

hi lads ..
is it illegal to trap magpies (larsen traps) ??

damo03

No its ok to trap magpies the call bird must have food and water(by law) and be sheltered to survive bad weather(for your own sake).

the hunter

yeah i know they have to be fed and sheltered ..
i was talking to a lad today about building a larsen trap
and he said try hide it a bit that it is illegal to trap them and he had a licence through his gun club to do it ?????

damo03

Yeah its good to hide them so they dont get broke/stolen but i dont think ya need a license to have one.

the hunter

damo03 wrote: »

Yeah its good to hide them so they dont get broke/stolen but i dont think ya need a license to have one.

no he didnt mean a license to have one ,,

tiny-nioclas

il use this thread instead of starting a new one, i have one of those octagon shaped(4traps all around a holding cage for the call bird type) traps out for the magpies and rooks for the last two weeks and i cant get a magpie into it, ive killed plenty rooks but no magpies, how do i get one to go in? what the best method?

damo03

the hunter wrote: »

no he didnt mean a license to have one ,,

Have one ,use one. Sorry if my grammars/meaning aint up to scratch, but whats the point in having it and not using it are ya gonna sit in your shed and look at it:eek:. I have a larsen trap and use it. I dont have and have never heard of a license to use one. But im open to correction.

Invincible

tiny-nioclas wrote: »

il use this thread instead of starting a new one, i have one of those octagon shaped(4traps all around a holding cage for the call bird type) traps out for the magpies and rooks for the last two weeks and i cant get a magpie into it, ive killed plenty rooks but no magpies, how do i get one to go in? what the best method?

Have a look at "Home made Larsen traps" for information.

NoNameRanger

It really depends on why you are trapping Magpies and Greycrows. Read the derogation and know your reason for killing them. E.g. When you are protecting game, livestock, crops, etc,etc it is perfectly legal. Read the derogation!! Have your defence sorted!;)

IRLConor

Is there a link to the derogation? (I presume it's a Statutory Instrument) Might be handy to have around.

damo03

NoNameRanger wrote: »

It really depends on why you are trapping Magpies and Greycrows. Read the derogation and know your reason for killing them. E.g. When you are protecting game, livestock, crops, etc,etc it is perfectly legal. Read the derogation!! Have your defence sorted!;)

Thanks nonameranger, someone more knowledgable has sorted it out.We use them before and around lambing time so im sure thats a valid reason.

Vegeta

IRLConor wrote: »

Is there a link to the derogation? (I presume it's a Statutory Instrument) Might be handy to have around.

I agree

Terrier

tiny-nioclas wrote: »

il use this thread instead of starting a new one, i have one of those octagon shaped(4traps all around a holding cage for the call bird type) traps out for the magpies and rooks for the last two weeks and i cant get a magpie into it, ive killed plenty rooks but no magpies, how do i get one to go in? what the best method?

Under a active magpie next with some nice bits meat\bread, ensure it is visible to the nest and set under the cover of darkness

foxhunter

tiny-nioclas wrote: »

il use this thread instead of starting a new one, i have one of those octagon shaped(4traps all around a holding cage for the call bird type) traps out for the magpies and rooks for the last two weeks and i cant get a magpie into it, ive killed plenty rooks but no magpies, how do i get one to go in? what the best method?

Do you already have a call bird in it or are you trying to catch the call bird?
If it's the latter you would be better off getting one from outside your local area because mags are very territorial and wont put up with intruders .
If your lookin for one i could probably sort you out with one.

the hunter

and know your reason for killing them. E.g. When you are protecting game, livestock, crops, etc,etc it is perfectly legal. Read the derogation!! Have your defence sorted!;)[/QUOTE]

thanks nonameranger
that must have been what he was on about

yank_in_eire

Sorry to hijack lads but if anybody has a few dead magpies (preferably with skins intact) I'd be interested in taking them off your hands to practice taxidermy on.

cavan shooter

tiny-nioclas wrote: »

il use this thread instead of starting a new one, i have one of those octagon shaped(4traps all around a holding cage for the call bird type) traps out for the magpies and rooks for the last two weeks and i cant get a magpie into it, ive killed plenty rooks but no magpies, how do i get one to go in? what the best method?

Where are you placing it I have good luck a couple of feet out from a hedge or near a tree they frequent. Another good spot is near a tree adjcent a road. I bait the trap with scraps from the butchers a couple of bits on top but more in the trap. I don't find the octangonal traps as good as a double cage galvanised or a home made job (see my other posts) I think the size of the trap cage puts them off (only an opinion)

damo03

cavan shooter wrote: »

Where are you placing it I have good luck a couple of feet out from a hedge or near a tree they frequent. Another good spot is near a tree adjcent a road. I bait the trap with scraps from the butchers a couple of bits on top but more in the trap. I don't find the octangonal traps as good as a double cage galvanised or a home made job (see my other posts) I think the size of the trap cage puts them off (only an opinion)

Yeah heard that myself i was told the octagonal trap is better for greys for some reason.

triggerpull

i had my larsen trap stolen last weekend :mad: and also had my new mink trap lifted the same weekend beware the antis,,,,,,the call bird and feed bowls the lot:(:(:(

stevoman

triggerpull wrote: »

i had my larsen trap stolen last weekend :mad: and also had my new mink trap lifted the same weekend beware the antis,,,,,,the call bird and feed bowls the lot:(:(:(

:mad:stupid do-gooders

what we do on our trap is have a lamenated piece of paper stuck to it stating that the magpie and trap is private property and that the magpie is fed and watered everyday. we havnt had much problem with ours of yet except for mr fox.

flanum

yank_in_eire wrote: »

Sorry to hijack lads but if anybody has a few dead magpies (preferably with skins intact) I'd be interested in taking them off your hands to practice taxidermy on.

any chance ye cud weatherproof the end result?? theyd make amazing decoys!

yank_in_eire

flanum wrote: »

any chance ye cud weatherproof the end result?? theyd make amazing decoys!

We used to use stuffed snow geese back home like that. You could get a few seasons out of them if they are hung up to dry after every hunt. Worked a treat!

foxshooter243

yank_in_eire wrote: »

We used to use stuffed snow geese back home like that. You could get a few seasons out of them if they are hung up to dry after every hunt. Worked a treat!

seen Randy Anderson using a stuffed coyote in one of his coyote hunting
videos..worked a treat too..

meathstevie

On the waterproofing issue : I suppose a good drop of vegetable oil on a stuffed bird and a bit of rubbing in might do the trick as long as you don't put it up in a dusty field. A drop of shampoo and water to wash it all of after a while... .


How would putting a couple of wires in a dead bird and injecting the carcass with formoldewhatyoumecallit work I wonder ?

glanzamike

does anybody know where i could get a live magpie for a larsen trap im in thr limerick area your help appreciated.

J.R.

yank_in_eire wrote: »

Sorry to hijack lads but if anybody has a few dead magpies (preferably with skins intact) I'd be interested in taking them off your hands to practice taxidermy on.

Hi,

just to keep you up to date - anybody involved in taxidermy needs to have a Wildlife Dealer's Licence available from the N.P.W.S.