Garda DMR Station Lettering

cpstears

Hi There,

Don't Know weather this is considersed OPSEC info because people could just walk into each station and look at the officers stationed within. Put anyone want to try and add the stations that make up the District Letters in the DMR tried to do a google for the info but to no avail. It could be made a sticky then.

example:

C- Store Street,
B- Pearse Street,
K - Blanchardstown (HQ), Cabra, Finglas

hammy140

Will tell all i know. . .Not sure about the other stations that make up each district just the District HQ

A- Fitz Street
B- Store STreet
C-Pearse Street
F-Dun Laoghaire
M-Tallaght
N-Bray (N soon to be gone, sob)
Q-Ronanstown
W-Blackrock

yayamark

hammy140 wrote: »

Will tell all i know. . .Not sure about the other stations that make up each district just the District HQ

A- Fitz Street
B- Store STreet
C-Pearse Street
F-Dun Laoghaire
M-Tallaght
N-Bray (N soon to be gone, sob)
Q-Ronanstown
W-Blackrock

A is actually Kevin St and Kilmainham.

Fyr.Fytr

R - Coolock, Swords, Malahide
H - Santry Whitehall Ballymun Dublin Airport
Y - Balbriggan Skerries
U - Fitz St Mount Joy

The letters are the districts each station will have the district letter then station letter, normally goes A,B,C

Eg Swords is R B, Santry H A etc etc

fermoyboy

A-Kevin Street, Kilmainham
B- Pearse Street
C-Store Street
D-Bridewell
E-Irishtown, Donnybrook
F-Dun Laoghaire
G-Crumlin?
H-Santry, Ballymun, Whitehall
J-Raheny, Clontarf, Howth
K-Blanchardstown, Finglas, Cabra
L-Ballyfermot
M-Tallaght, Ratfarnham
N-Bray, Shankill
P-Rathmines
Q-Ronanstown
R-Coolock, Swords, Malahide
T-Traffic
U-Fitzgibbon Street, Mountjoy
W-Blackrock
Y-Balbriggan, Lusk, Rush

I know I'm missing one or two stations but think that's pretty much every district in the DMR covered.

cpstears

Great well done fermoy boy, if anyone wants to add any corrections please do? Then when it's complete we'll have it added as a sticky

Cork_Rebel

Oscar and Sierra.. special branch?
Alpha Sierra: Air Support

Eru

Cork_Rebel wrote: »

Oscar and Sierra.. special branch?
Alpha Sierra: Air Support

Fermoy is spot on, dont think we should discuss specialist call signs in public

santosubito

If anyone saw the Indo on Saturday, there was a pic of members at an incident on the LIffey.
One of them had NS.
Would that be operational support, part of national suport services? In other words horses, dogs, air support and the Water Unit? I've been at a few incidents where I have seen NS and have been wondering about it for some time.
Also, would it not also be worth putting up the divisional markings for around the country.
Like LM for Louth Meath. Although I wonder what Louth and Meath divisions are going to have, LH and MH, maybe?
Also, don't forget GH for Garda Headquarters.

santosubito

Fyr.Fytr wrote: »

R - Coolock, Swords, Malahide
H - Santry Whitehall Ballymun Dublin Airport
Y - Balbriggan Skerries
U - Fitz St Mount Joy

The letters are the districts each station will have the district letter then station letter, normally goes A,B,C

Eg Swords is R B, Santry H A etc etc

But do they not just have the district letter on their epaulettes? Like U or M, then their short number?

eroo

Is there really any point in posting these?

cpstears

eroo wrote: »

Is there really any point in posting these?

Some people may find it usefull for whatever reason to be able to reference a particular Garda to a Station or District wheather that be for a complaint, someone researching a photograph and trying to identify where the Gardai are from, etc, etc.

I also think that National Support Units / Detective Units callsigns shouldn't be mentioned here, the Air Support Unit and the Dog and Water units don't really matter but the likes of GNDU or SDU/ERU etc should be left alone better what little shroud of mystery still surrounds them be left alone.

yayamark

cpstears wrote: »

Some people may find it usefull for whatever reason to be able to reference a particular Garda to a Station or District wheather that be for a complaint, someone researching a photograph and trying to identify where the Gardai are from, etc, etc.

I also think that National Support Units / Detective Units callsigns shouldn't be mentioned here, the Air Support Unit and the Dog and Water units don't really matter but the likes of GNDU or SDU/ERU etc should be left alone better what little shroud of mystery still surrounds them be left alone.

+1

Fyr.Fytr

cpstears wrote: »

Some people may find it usefull for whatever reason to be able to reference a particular Garda to a Station or District wheather that be for a complaint, someone researching a photograph and trying to identify where the Gardai are from, etc, etc.

I also think that National Support Units / Detective Units callsigns shouldn't be mentioned here, the Air Support Unit and the Dog and Water units don't really matter but the likes of GNDU or SDU/ERU etc should be left alone better what little shroud of mystery still surrounds them be left alone.

I agree, they dont wear uniforms with eppaluettes so no need to identify them

santosubito

eroo wrote: »

Is there really any point in posting these?

What do you mean? They are already in the public domain.They have them on their epaulettes.What's the problem? Although I can't see why people are putting up ones for detective/non-uniform units. Isn't the whole point so people can Identify local districts and/or divisions that are public...

ScubaDave

They dont have epaulettes! Anyone who needs to stay private will be!

remmurts

Where did my earlier post go? There was nothing but commentary in it...no info about anything !!!

I shall not be silenced !!!

Shield

Your earlier post was deleted by me. Mairt requested that his post be deleted, so your reply was out of context sitting there on its own.

No collusion... I swear

<_<

>_>

Victor

So, when you see letters on a vehicle, does that specify the vehicle (I presume) or the station?

Fyr.Fytr

Nope as far as I know they're just for the vehicle itself and not district etc as cars move around alot.

They're for the chopper to pick out individual cars and call them over the radio as the driver should have a sticker underneath his clocks stating what the letters on the roof of their vehicle are

arybvtcw0eolkf

remmurts wrote: »

Where did my earlier post go? There was nothing but commentary in it...no info about anything !!!

I shall not be silenced !!!

I posted stuff which in hindsight I shouldn't have and asked PSNI to delete my posts.

What I should have said was that the guards Alfa-Numeric system of callsigns in the DMA was s serious security flaw.

CLADA

Mairt wrote: »

the guards Alfa-Numeric system of callsigns in the DMA was s serious security flaw.

The security flaw is the fact that the radio network is so easily accessed by scanners etc...

shakin

CLADA wrote: »

The security flaw is the fact that the radio network is so easily accessed by scanners etc...

i thought tetra was in the dmr now, is that not encrypted?

arybvtcw0eolkf

CLADA wrote: »

The security flaw is the fact that the radio network is so easily accessed by scanners etc...

Nope, thats the flaw at the moment and something will should hopefully be rectified soon but given that the police radio network has always been either single channel or (more often the case) duplex with no channel hoping or digital comms the flaw is in their 'Alpha-Numeric' (sorry I spelt it ''alfa'' earlier) callsign system which easily identified units to user's of scanners through its (the callsigns) relationship to the district lettering.

Otherwise (bringing this back on topic) the district lettering thing is a very good and effective mean's of identifying a units district.

(I hope I put that correct )

arybvtcw0eolkf

shakin wrote: »

i thought tetra was in the dmr now, is that not encrypted?

Not everywhere.

Fyr.Fytr

Its only north central, regional traffic corps and specilist units who have it "on trial" for the last couple of years.

Another poster (think it was karlitos no 100%) said tera ireland have a rake of plaaning applications in for masts etc so some progress is being made

shakin

the words "on trial" and "years" shouldnt really go together.......

Victor

I think its something like 3,000 units in the trial - it put on onus on the supplier to perform or otherwise next year's contract (6,000 units?) is going elsewhere. At the same time the guy with the second contract will also have to perform as the first guy will still be around for a while.

eroo

santosubito wrote: »

What do you mean? They are already in the public domain.They have them on their epaulettes.What's the problem? Although I can't see why people are putting up ones for detective/non-uniform units. Isn't the whole point so people can Identify local districts and/or divisions that are public...

I'm not saying it is a problem..I just don't see the point.

CLADA

Mairt wrote: »

Nope, thats the flaw at the moment and something will should hopefully be rectified soon but given that the police radio network has always been either single channel or (more often the case) duplex with no channel hoping or digital comms the flaw is in their 'Alpha-Numeric' (sorry I spelt it ''alfa'' earlier) callsign system which easily identified units to user's of scanners through its (the callsigns) relationship to the district lettering.

Ah yes Mairt i know this game, its called "put the Garda in a round room and tell him to sit in the corner".

You start by saying "Nope" so I take it you disagree with me, then you say "thats the flaw at the moment" so I take it you agree with me (that the unsecure network is the flaw).
Then you go on to say the alpha numeric callsign system can easily identify units to users of scanners through its relationship to the district lettering.

So I agree now that the alpha numeric system is the security flaw because users of scanners can identify garda units by their callsigns.

BUT WAIT!

What if the radio network was secure. If it was secure the users of scanners would not be able to eavesdrop and therefore not be able to identify units, no matter what their call signs.