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WWE draft?

  • 19-04-2008 5:22pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭


    I was just wondering, does the draft not usually happen after wrestlemania, or is it after backlash?

    Was just thinking that sd could do with a few more main event level stars (they only really have Taker, Edge, Rey, who is out for a bit is't he? and Batista, who is kinda between brands atm with the Shawn thing), and since raw has about six or seven main event level guys (Orton, HHH, Cena, HBK, Jericho, JBL, maybe Jeff before he messed it up but he's back soon) they could afford to throw one or two over that way for a bit.

    Is the draft going ahead this year? If it is, what are people's prdictions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Sd needs stars ASAP, as there is only three guys that can main event right now. I have being saying for ages that bringing over HBK would be a logical choice as there is very little to with him on Raw. I do think it will be two out of Carlito, Umanga and Y2J going to the blue brand as the likes ogf HBK and HHH will never leave RAW, I think Batista will got to Raw as he’s being angling to go their for ages apparently, I also could see MVP and Edge going their as there is very few creditable faces for them to feud with . I don’t know about the ECW boys, Punk would be better on SD, although ECW need him for ratings and Morrison could be due a push. Predictions
    SD
    2 out of Y2j/Carlito and Umanga
    Maybe Punk and Morrison but ECW need the or ratings will die without them….
    Raw
    Batista, MVP and Punk to move over, Edge is a good bet if he does not have the belt when it happens..
    ECW
    Don’t know maybe Cody Rhodes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    I see Punk moving to Raw along with Batista, Matt Hardy, Victoria or Neidhart and Khali or Big Show.

    To ECW I see Snitsky going back maybe or even JBL. They need a big name because Punk is certain to leave. Umaga would be a good one to move as well. He could link up with Estrada again

    To Smackdown I see Jericho, Kennedy, Kelly Kelly, Miz and Morrison and maybe another main eventer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭d1sc0g1rl


    It was suppose to happen this week on the 3 hour special wasn't it? They must have gone with the King of the Ring tournament instead I would have preferred to see the draft mix things up a little bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    d1sc0g1rl wrote: »
    It was suppose to happen this week on the 3 hour special wasn't it? They must have gone with the King of the Ring tournament instead I would have preferred to see the draft mix things up a little bit.

    It's rumoured to be after Backlash. Anyway I expect the main trades to be:
    • MVP to Raw
    • Chris Jericho and Randy Orton to SD
    • CM Punk to Raw (hate the guy, wish they would send him to the 'B' show, SD)
    • Carlito to ECW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭ec18


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    It's rumoured to be after Backlash. Anyway I expect the main trades to be:
    • MVP to Raw
    • Chris Jericho and Randy Orton to SD
    • CM Punk to Raw (hate the guy, wish they would send him to the 'B' show, SD)
    • Carlito to ECW

    orton will be dropping the belt at backlash then presumably


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    ec18 wrote: »
    orton will be dropping the belt at backlash then presumably

    I presume so, but then again I expected him to lose at WM so who knows. Apparently WWE are delighted with how Orton's Championship has gone.

    Also, as an outsider, HBK might go to SD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    What good faces are on SD that Orton hasn't feuded with yet?

    Hardy is the only one I can think of.

    Orton is staying on RAW, hopefully as champion.

    I think it's better to have Cena chasing the title and having Orton constantly winning by underhanded means.

    When Cena finally regains the title the payoff will be much better.

    HBK to SD would be good, but I doubt it will happen.

    Jericho to SD to feud with Edge would be good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    What good faces are on SD that Orton hasn't feuded with yet?

    Hardy is the only one I can think of.

    Orton is staying on RAW, hopefully as champion.

    I think it's better to have Cena chasing the title and having Orton constantly winning by underhanded means.

    When Cena finally regains the title the payoff will be much better.

    HBK to SD would be good, but I doubt it will happen.

    Jericho to SD to feud with Edge would be good.

    Well I wouldn't mind seeing him feud with Big Show, Batista, Undertaker and Matt for the Heavyweight Title.

    Triple H is probably gonna win at Backlash and turn heel, feuding with Cena (it'll be a bore I know).

    HBK going to SD is an outside bet, but SD need a top face, and he's more likely to move over than Triple H or Cena.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    MVP (US Champ) to Raw - Jericho (IC champ) to SD
    CM Punk to SD (Cant see him becoming Raw's WWE champ so being on SD when he cashes in MITB makes sense)
    Umaga to ECW (link up with Estrada again and maybe go for the belt, hes been great on Raw but when did he last win a game)
    Miz & Morrison to SD
    Snitzky to ECW
    Kelly Kelly to Raw
    Dave Taylor to Raw (link up with Regal again)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    What reason would there be for someone to move from ECW to Smackdown or vice versa? They appear on each other's shows anyway

    I don't really think that there's any need for a draft at the moment. Maybe just to shuffle the undercard around a bit, but I don't see the point in moving any top guys. Umaga to Smackdown maybe, but that wouldn't have to be in a draft


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Fozzy wrote: »
    What reason would there be for someone to move from ECW to Smackdown or vice versa? They appear on each other's shows anyway

    I don't really think that there's any need for a draft at the moment. Maybe just to shuffle the undercard around a bit, but I don't see the point in moving any top guys. Umaga to Smackdown maybe, but that wouldn't have to be in a draft

    Erm the belief is that SD has very few top guys and it opens up fresh fueds so the sooner the better really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭de5p0i1er


    I'd like to see a new top heel on SD. This Edge - Vickie thing is getting boring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Erm the belief is that SD has very few top guys and it opens up fresh fueds so the sooner the better really.

    So elevate guys like Matt and MVP. Vince is probably still going to use the likes of Khali and Mark Henry at the top too so they've got enough guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Fozzy wrote: »
    So elevate guys like Matt and MVP. Vince is probably still going to use the likes of Khali and Mark Henry at the top too so they've got enough guys
    There is a belief of many that Matt cant main vent, and I admit I share their misgivings, yes he a better worker than Jeff, and more reliable but he lacks that x-factor you need to draw. Fozzy ask yourself this would any of the following feuds draw?
    Matt v Batista
    Matt v Taker
    He could draw in a feud with Edge but that’s really it. The likes of Khali and Henry are jobbers on the same level of Snitsky, both have had their time to main event and both sucked tremendously. Now someone like Y2J or HBK opens a whole range of feuds. I don’t know if its also fair to expect Punk and Morrison to appear consistently on both shows, sure one or two appearances here and their, but if Punk has to stay on ECW for ratings would he not have to be on SD consistently wrestling if he’s to go after one of the main SD belts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    Then let Matt feud with Edge. I'm just saying that I don't think WWE need to change guys around. They can have Taker vs Big Show, Khali, Henry, Batista, MVP. I'm not saying that I'd like to see all of those but you know from the past that it's not unlikely that WWE will go with some of them. And if they do then there's no need for a draft


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    There is a belief of many that Matt cant main vent, and I admit I share their misgivings, yes he a better worker than Jeff, and more reliable but he lacks that x-factor you need to draw. Fozzy ask yourself this would any of the following feuds draw?
    Matt v Batista
    Matt v Taker
    He could draw in a feud with Edge but that’s really it. The likes of Khali and Henry are jobbers on the same level of Snitsky, both have had their time to main event and both sucked tremendously. Now someone like Y2J or HBK opens a whole range of feuds. I don’t know if its also fair to expect Punk and Morrison to appear consistently on both shows, sure one or two appearances here and their, but if Punk has to stay on ECW for ratings would he not have to be on SD consistently wrestling if he’s to go after one of the main SD belts?

    You must watch SD with the volume at zero:rolleyes:

    Matt Hardy gets by far the biggest pop outside of the 'big 3'- Mysterio, Taker and Batista. That's especially amazing since the WWE haven't given him anything decent since 2004. People said that when the Hardys broke up Matt wouldn't be able to cut the mustard on his own. What happened? He ended up with one of the best gimmicks on SD- V.1- while Jeff ended up fired. The guy has rose above adversity before so maybe if he was given something to work with-instead of this 'I will not die' crap- he'll surprise everyone again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    You must watch SD with the volume at zero:rolleyes:

    Matt Hardy gets by far the biggest pop outside of the 'big 3'- Mysterio, Taker and Batista. That's especially amazing since the WWE haven't given him anything decent since 2004. People said that when the Hardys broke up Matt wouldn't be able to cut the mustard on his own. What happened? He ended up with one of the best gimmicks on SD- V.1- while Jeff ended up fired. The guy has rose above adversity before so maybe if he was given something to work with-instead of this 'I will not die' crap- he'll surprise everyone again.
    Pops are important but Jeff got a much bigger pop for years before he got a push and that was only due to Cena and Lashley being injured and Vince having zilch other option. Matt is a respected veteran veteran who the crowd will always have a soft sport for but I don’t think he could headline a main event. It would be Benoit syndrome all over again,. He may deserve a push but he simply wont draw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Pops are important but Jeff got a much bigger pop for years before he got a push and that was only due to Cena and Lashley being injured and Vince having zilch other option. Matt is a respected veteran veteran who the crowd will always have a soft sport for but I don’t think he could headline a main event. It would be Benoit syndrome all over again,. He may deserve a push but he simply wont draw.

    But I think alot of it has to do with how someone is pushed and what they are given creatively. I mean like would Steve Austin be the huge draw that he was if they didn't create the 'Stone Cold' gimmick? Never in a million years did I think the Ringmaster would go on to become a legend.

    Or how about Cena when he debuted on SD against Kurt Angle? Did anyone think that he would become a big draw? Then he got the right gimmick, took the ball and ran with it.

    If the WWE really wanted to put Matt Hardy in the Main Event they would find a way, I just think they don't want to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    Didn't Matt hardy get drafted to raw from sd after getting over with the V1 gimmick? He got lost in the shuffle there ... as a lot of superstars seem to do.
    Raw is a very hard place to get any decent momentum built up. So I think stars on the rise like Hardy and MVP would be better off staying on Smackdown, where they have a better chance to fulfill their potential. CM Punk should also stay on eCw.

    A good move I think would be to put a couple more tag teams on Smackdown .. Cade & Murdoch, and maybe Cryme Time.

    Bring Batista to raw in exchange for HBK, Great Kahli for Umaga, and Finlay for Y2J.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Cactus Col wrote: »
    Didn't Matt hardy get drafted to raw from sd after getting over with the V1 gimmick? He got lost in the shuffle there ... as a lot of superstars seem to do.
    Raw is a very hard place to get any decent momentum built up. So I think stars on the rise like Hardy and MVP would be better off staying on Smackdown, where they have a better chance to fulfill their potential. CM Punk should also stay on eCw.

    A good move I think would be to put a couple more tag teams on Smackdown .. Cade & Murdoch, and maybe Cryme Time.

    Bring Batista to raw in exchange for HBK, Great Kahli for Umaga, and Finlay for Y2J.

    They brought him over, put him back with Lita and then was fired after the Edge/ Lita affair. Didn't really get a chance in any big storylines before it either. I agree with you. Hell, look at what happened to Kennedy. They brought him to Raw hoping to finish off his push when his push should have been executed fully on SD before bringing him over, like they did with Cena. Now Kennedy has lost his momentum due to injury/ suspensions/ lack of spots.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Dickmcsavage


    I don't see much need for change TBH. In terms of getting a main event spot on a regular basis, it would probably be better for Jericho to go to SD! but in saying that I wouldn't really want that to happen as these days I only watch RAW and with that said I would love to see Undertaker on RAW even though that won't happen.


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