(Job's Lost)Ballymun Plaza Ceased (Job's Lost)

KevT2e

Yesterday at the Ballymun hotel in Poppintree was shut down to the public and the employees, news from the inside says that the man who was renting the building off a big corporation , they say he had taken all the documents and has left and is now hiding no body knows were the about of the man is, but this incident has defecated the employees that have families to feed , and the documents that he has includes the P45 and P60 which we all know is essential in getting a new job, so this means the 69 people without jobs will not be able to get new 1s, and they are unable to go on the dole ,

and if we don’t have the dole we have no money , they have now chances of supporting there family

the Question to be answered is

Will the Irish Government let those people go with out Money?

feylya

P45s can be gotten from the tax office.

buckfast4me

KevT2e wrote: »

Will the Irish Government let those people go with out Money?

Hopefully, too many people sponging off the state.

KevT2e

feylya wrote: »

P45s can be gotten from the tax office.

im not too sure if they need a P45 or something els to prve they worked there becasue all i know is that they need some type of information or a document to say they worked there, im only new to working i only worked there a month and they had to et me go becasue they were closing down then they go someone els to buy it off them or take it off there hands , please discus this topic it would help alot of people

KevT2e

buckfast4me wrote: »

Hopefully, too many people sponging off the state.

these are people that have workled for a living and they need money to keep on living the goverment should give them the dole and the option to get antoher job, but the rule are you have to have some typ of document to say you woked for this place for so and so months years , but the man ran off with thse documents the information vital to gettng another job, or going on the dole,

buckfast4me

Job losses/company takeovers happen every day of the week. There's nothing strange about this instance. The tax office will sort out any documents you need.

buckfast4me

KevT2e wrote: »

these are people that have workled for a living and they need money to keep on living the goverment should give them the dole and the option to get antoher job, but the rule are you have to have some typ of document to say you woked for this place for so and so months years , but the man ran off with thse documents the information vital to gettng another job, or going on the dole,

So long as they were paying tax, revenue will have a record of them being employed/how much they earned/how much tax they paid/etc. If they weren't paying tax then I have no sympathy.

muletide

If ye were paying tax or PRSI then there will be a record of your employment with Revenue. If you were not paying tax then good enough for ye.

Also calm down on the fancy font and colours

(Looks like great minds think alike, buckfast)

nanook

i suppose bank statements would help the employees here. If it they were paying tax then it will more than likely be a EFT to their account with the employers name beside it, if it is cash in hand then they have not been registered working for a long time and will more than likely be still claiming the dole, sorry if i offend but 99/100 getting cash in hand are usually on the take somehow.

cronos

KevT2e wrote: »

these are people that have workled for a living and they need money to keep on living the goverment should give them the dole and the option to get antoher job, but the rule are you have to have some typ of document to say you woked for this place for so and so months years , but the man ran off with thse documents the information vital to gettng another job, or going on the dole,

Were you/they getting cash in hand? If tax was being paid the tax office will be able to say you worked in place X for Y length of time. If your oss wasnt paying tax that could be a totally different story.

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buckfast4me wrote: »

Hopefully, too many people sponging off the state.

don't make stupid comments. Unemployment benefit is an insurance against losing your job. You pay PRSI and then this is your safety net.

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its a big hotel, i'm sure they were paying taxes.

KevT2e - you need to get together with the people who lost their jobs and go down to the social welfare office and explain the situation to them. They tend to be quite flexible. Also ring the tax authorities - they can re-issue a P45, if necessary...

ScouseMouse

The social welfare people read the papers to !

They will be expecting the staff and will be able to sort out allowances. You do not need a p45 to get a new job. A letter to the tax office will get you a tax free allowance but you may have to pay emergency tax for a few weeks.

This whole episode is nasty but the social welfare will look after it.

indiewindy

Roundtower2 wrote: »

its a big hotel, i'm sure they were paying taxes.

KevT2e - you need to get together with the people who lost their jobs and go down to the social welfare office and explain the situation to them. They tend to be quite flexible. Also ring the tax authorities - they can re-issue a P45, if necessary...

Revenue don't issue p45s they are issued by employers

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indiewindy wrote: »

Revenue don't issue p45s they are issued by employers

yep true, but if there is evidence of something gone wrong then they will (had to get them to issue me once after i couldn't get one from a company i used to work for). They don't like doing it though.

SmurfDublin

How can a hotel owner dissappear!!!! Sounds like a alien movie to me. I know many people from Ballymun who worked there in the hotel. I also know that this owner does have also another hotel in Tallaght. And that hotel is open, so why dont you all not go to Tallaght and face him?
It is impossible for the person of his magnitude to dissappear. And then there is also of course possibility to report him as taking the staff files as you say (P45 and P60)
is a criminal case already as those papers are personal belongings not of the company but of the worker.
And finally I am sure that the tax office is also up to date with a happenings of this business and surley they would help those who become victims.

KevT2e wrote: »

Yesterday at the Ballymun hotel in Poppintree was shut down to the public and the employees, news from the inside says that the man who was renting the building off a big corporation , they say he had taken all the documents and has left and is now hiding no body knows were the about of the man is, but this incident has defecated the employees that have families to feed , and the documents that he has includes the P45 and P60 which we all know is essential in getting a new job, so this means the 69 people without jobs will not be able to get new 1s, and they are unable to go on the dole ,

and if we don’t have the dole we have no money , they have now chances of supporting there family

the Question to be answered is

Will the Irish Government let those people go with out Money?

flynnc8

I thought the place had been ceased by CAB... I know he is suppose to own the hotel in Tallaght too not sure if that has closed or not..

Then again ya cant believe everything you hear over the grapevine..

loyatemu

KevT2e wrote: »

this incident has defecated the employees ...

its always the guys at the bottom who get shat on....

parsi

buckfast4me wrote: »

Hopefully, too many people sponging off the state.

WHAT ?

There are plenty of cases where folk have been supposedly paying tax and PRSi and their employer hasn't bothered his/her barney to pass on the bucks to the Revenue.

So maybe , step down from your high horse and stop and think before you give your opinion.