Gerry Ryan in Florida

Mr Lahey

Whats the point? Isn't it a bit like snooker on the radio. This is the blurb on 2fm.ie

"Gerry broadcasts from Walt Disney World in Florida and it's fun fun fun all the way...Gerry will be describing the rides and thrills of the Magical Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, Epcot and the Hollywood Studios"

Ooh i cant wait to hear those rides being described. Free junket.

Rosser

Mr Lahey wrote: »

Whats the point? Isn't it a bit like snooker on the radio. This is the blurb on 2fm.ie

"Gerry broadcasts from Walt Disney World in Florida and it's fun fun fun all the way...Gerry will be describing the rides and thrills of the Magical Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, Epcot and the Hollywood Studios"

Ooh i cant wait to hear those rides being described. Free junket.

Yeah a three hour Disney ad...what a joke

chalkitdown1

Isn't there enough negative threads in this damn place? Just whinge in the Gerry Ryan thread instead of starting a new one.

Fulton Crown

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Isn't there enough negative threads in this damn place? Just whinge in the Gerry Ryan thread instead of starting a new one.

Your right chalk - but it's not a whinge its fcukin true - dreadfull lazy radio anyway Im going to whizzzzz over the G.Ryan whinge fest

DMC

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Isn't there enough negative threads in this damn place? Just whinge in the Gerry Ryan thread instead of starting a new one.

There is one thread here that does think nice things about radio. Only one, mind, but its a start!

Mr Lahey

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Isn't there enough negative threads in this damn place? Just whinge in the Gerry Ryan thread instead of starting a new one.

Sorry about that, heres a positive view.

Has anyone heard the Gerry Ryan show this week, its fantastic. He's in Florida and he actually describes the rides and attractions in Disney world.
Keep up the good work Gerry.

Wertz

By sheer cooincidence I caught some of this this morning (not a morning radio person at all)....and it was Mr Ryan doing what only Mr Ryan can do; yep, you've guessed it...eating on air. He flew 4K miles to tell us what the food tasted like (and what it sounded like)...also, the sound quality on the OB was laughable....if the're going to go to the trouble of sending the fat git to on a free holiday, couldn't they at least have arranged for a sound engineer to do some tweaking? Lazy isn't the word.

More Music

LOL, funny post Wertz.

However, which one of us wouldn't go on the junket if we were asked?

I reckon the sound quality is more to do with the codec selected on the ISDN box.

Toto Wolfcastle

Wertz wrote: »

By sheer cooincidence I caught some of this this morning (not a morning radio person at all)....and it was Mr Ryan doing what only Mr Ryan can do; yep, you've guessed it...eating on air. He flew 4K miles to tell us what the food tasted like (and what it sounded like)...also, the sound quality on the OB was laughable....if the're going to go to the trouble of sending the fat git to on a free holiday, couldn't they at least have arranged for a sound engineer to do some tweaking? Lazy isn't the word.

Ah but you see the sound engineer was eating too. So he was too busy!

SEPT 23 1989

i am not one of gerrys biggest fans but i think its time to hold your fire on him at this time i have been listening to it and it sounds quite sad him constantly talking about his kids on the rides

Dub13

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

i am not one of gerrys biggest fans but i think its time to hold your fire on him at this time i have been listening to it and it sounds quite sad him constantly talking about his kids on the rides

But its our Tax money he is been sent on this Junket with.

Mossy Monk

He brought his children with him? That is a joke.

Is it really our tax money that is paying for this? 2FM receives no license fee money.

Toto Wolfcastle

Mossy Monk wrote: »

He brought his children with him? That is a joke.

Is it really our tax money that is paying for this? 2FM receives no license fee money.

I don't think he brought his kids with him. He just keeps talking about how much they would love this and that, and he mentions them a lot.

_feedback_

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Is it really our tax money that is paying for this? 2FM receives no license fee money.

Janey Mack, here comes that debate again ! ! ! You might as well be talking to a brick wall Mossy

FlutterinBantam

Get real folks...RTE are milking the taxpayer bigtime.

Ok don't get too excited,they do good things too,but don't ever lose sight of the fact that we,thats us, you and me missus ,who are paying for their junkets,pensions,conditions and ancillary stuff.

Forget about 2FM and all that shooite.

Don't let anyone talk you down on that one, it's true,you are paying and you are entitled to an opinion.

DMC

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Get real folks...RTE are milking the taxpayer bigtime.

Forget about 2FM and all that shooite.

Don't let anyone talk you down on that one, it's true,you are paying and you are entitled to an opinion.

Good aul Flutter, even if the argument has been shot to pieces before, you'll still spout it out all the same.

Opinion and fact are two separate things.

"The needle returns to the start of the song and we all sing along like before"

FlutterinBantam

Aaah Deemer... sorry to disappoint you, but the argument has not been shot down,not by a long long chalk.:D

Can you explain to the plain people of Ireland why marion Finucane gets 460k to do 4 hrs radio ,give or take, and holidays June to September.

If you think thats good use of taxpayers money,well fair dues to you.

If the Bank of Ireland or the AIB make a few billion should the person who deals with you at the counter be paid to reflect that??

Or should market forces and common sense dictate remuneration??

DMC

Threads about Gerry Ryan and 2FM, dude.

(I agree about Marian, though.)

Basq

I'm enjoying it.. but mainly due to the fact I'll be over in Orlando for 10 days in June so best to hear the stuff now.

FlutterinBantam

DMC wrote: »

Threads about Gerry Ryan and 2FM, dude.

(I agree about Marian, though.)

I am approaching it from a different angle.

(Accept your point though)

Estella

So either way it's a 3 hours a day week long advert for Disney .Yep top impartial and informative radio from our national broadcaster. Brilliant.

FlutterinBantam

I wonder who is sponsoring it Estella???

That doesn't come out of the 2FM budget either, I suppose.

jimogr

I'd say disney funded the trip, and possibly part funded by the Folrida tourist board, it is the norm for these type of trips to be funded by travel companies and local tourist boards.

Bard

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

I wonder who is sponsoring it Estella???

That doesn't come out of the 2FM budget either, I suppose.

And the 2FM budget doesn't come out of the TV license.

Wow, I'm so enraged...

FlutterinBantam

...and your point is??

Our man in Havana

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

...and your point is??

He is not wasting tax payers money.

More Music

2fm don't draw directly form the license fee, we all agree on that. G Ryan more than offsets his salary with the advertising the show pulls in.

But there are shared resources like IT, engineering and maybe news that are taken from the central RTE pool that are paid by the license fee.

Bard

FlutterinBantam wrote:

..and your point is??

Bond-007 wrote: »

He is not wasting tax payers money.

That's it exactly, Bond-007. (Thought that was obvious, tbh, FlutterinBantam...)

It may be a waste of money, I'm not arguing that..- it's just not a waste of public/TV License money, which reduces our right to give out about it in the context of "wasting taxpayers money" to ... well, to practically zero.

DMC

More Music wrote: »

But there are shared resources like IT, engineering and maybe news that are taken from the central RTE pool that are paid by the license fee.

2FM pay for their transmission costs and news, and their profit is directed towards Radio 1.

As mentioned here.

DMC wrote: »

Remember that the station started in 1979, hardly any startup costs would appear on the books now. They are in the same outhouse in Montrose. And if it continues to make a profit, those costs are long paid for. Listed in the Annual Report is also transmission costs to RTÉ NL specifically for 2FM (€1.4m, pg 54) and also, 2FM pay the newsroom for the news, they don't get it as a freebie (pg 47).

Think of it this way. Colm and Jim Jim, Rick O'Shea, Larry Gogan and (excluding TV work) Gerry Ryan and all the other DJ's on 2FM cost the licence fee payer diddly squat, nada, not a bean. Their income in advertising alone makes 2FM help other parts of RTÉ's PSB programming.

FlutterinBantam

Bard wrote: »

That's it exactly, Bond-007. (Thought that was obvious, tbh, FlutterinBantam...)

It may be a waste of money, I'm not arguing that..- it's just not a waste of public/TV License money, which reduces our right to give out about it in the context of "wasting taxpayers money" to ... well, to practically zero.

It was....in about 6 threads over 2years on this forum.

Was wondering why he was banging on about that at this stage and needed confirmation.He seemed to think it was a major disclosure.

I also thought it was obvious that the national broadcaster should not put itself in the hands of commercial interests as it is doing with Ryan in Florida.

Objectivity me hairy arse!!!!

For sale to the highest bidder and to hell with objectivity..

Wertz

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

I also thought it was obvious that the national broadcaster should not put itself in the hands of commercial interests as it is doing with Ryan in Florida.

Objectivity me hairy arse!!!!

For sale to the highest bidder and to hell with objectivity..

lol you obviously haven't been watching the late late show the last decade (sponsored by car companies, banks and whoever's willing to put up a holiday prize) or been watching Irish TV in general...RTÉ is so far into the pockets of big business it's finding lint...

Fulton Crown

Tax payers money wasted or not - it's still lazy radio[ /COLOR]what percentage of listners will or have any interest in going to Disney ??

A day would be bad enough - but a whole week going on about it - Jeeez !

Fulton Crown

You can bet also there was the usual army of Liggers over with Ryan as well

Mossy Monk

And? Your license is not paying for the 'liggers'

Fulton Crown

Mossy Monk wrote: »

And? Your license is not paying for the 'liggers'

And ? what makes you say that Moss ???

Mossy Monk

If you are asking that then please read the thread.

juuge

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Get real folks...RTE are milking the taxpayer bigtime.

Ok don't get too excited,they do good things too,but don't ever lose sight of the fact that we,thats us, you and me missus ,who are paying for their junkets,pensions,conditions and ancillary stuff.

Forget about 2FM and all that shooite.

Don't let anyone talk you down on that one, it's true,you are paying and you are entitled to an opinion.

Jaysus ...a bit of sense talk at last.
Eventually we will all grow up and see that ryan is 'of the eighties' and would not survive a minute in the real 'work-for-a-livin' world. Keep it up RTE your days are numbered.

Mossy Monk

juuge wrote: »

Jaysus ...a bit of sense talk at last.

Keep it up RTE your days are numbered.

Do you reckon? :rolleyes:

juuge

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Do you reckon? :rolleyes:

yeah...I do !
The days of holding on to the likes of ryan, kenny etc and paying them outrageous sums (of our money) so they won't defect to the 'real-world' of radio/television is a dying trend. No commercial organisation would succeed on this basis. What's keeping RTE afloat is 'tax-payers' money and the people propagating this system are 'civil-servants' need I say anymore ?

Our man in Havana

Again I must again restate that Gerry Ryan is not paid from the licence fee or tax payers money.

mike65

DMC will be along with a pie chart to show that all 2FM jocks are paid out of the ad revenue.

Mike.

Our man in Havana

/me pages DMC

DMC

juuge wrote: »

yeah...I do !
The days of holding on to the likes of ryan, kenny etc and paying them outrageous sums (of our money) so they won't defect to the 'real-world' of radio/television is a dying trend. No commercial organisation would succeed on this basis. What's keeping RTE afloat is 'tax-payers' money and the people propagating this system are 'civil-servants' need I say anymore ?

I would agree that the stellar salaries that the likes of Kenny and Ryan will not be received by their successors, but who ever they are will still be amongst the highest paid in TV and Radio, regardless.

And yet, and yet.

The likes of Kenny and Ryan earn so much advertising revenue for RTÉ, that their wages wouldn't be paid out of the licence fee, along with all 2FM staff.

You could do the maths from the rate cards and comparing them to their salaries.

Slicklink

juuge wrote: »

yeah...I do !
The days of holding on to the likes of ryan, kenny etc and paying them outrageous sums (of our money) so they won't defect to the 'real-world' of radio/television is a dying trend. No commercial organisation would succeed on this basis. What's keeping RTE afloat is 'tax-payers' money and the people propagating this system are 'civil-servants' need I say anymore ?

2fm makes enough money COMMERCIALLY to run itself. It IS NOT FUNDED by the taxpayer. IT IS FUNDED BY COMMERCIAL INCOME. IT is a "Stand Alone".

Not that it had to be repeated again given that DMC and Bond have already mentioned it several times in this thread and you have chosen to ignore it and still type a load of ill informed drivel.

Any idea what determines the value of a presenter ?

Do you have any idea what attracts advertisers ?

Any idea what the value of big advertising is worth ?

If you knew the answer to these questions perhaps you wouldnt be ranting!

Loomis

You're all just jealous you're not going to Disney World. Unlike moi who is going back in June

DMC

Slicklink wrote: »

2fm makes enough money COMMERCIALLY to run itself. It IS NOT FUNDED by the taxpayer. IT IS FUNDED BY COMMERCIAL INCOME. IT is a "Stand Alone".

Not that it had to be repeated again given that DMC and Bond have already mentioned it several times in this thread and you have chosen to ignore it and still type a load of ill informed drivel.

Any idea what determines the value of a presenter ?

Do you have any idea what attracts advertisers ?

Any idea what the value of big advertising is worth ?

If you knew the answer to these questions perhaps you wouldnt be ranting!

+1, QFT etc.

juuge

Slicklink wrote: »

Not that it had to be repeated again given that DMC and Bond have already mentioned it several times in this thread and you have chosen to ignore it and still type a load of ill informed drivel.


If you knew the answer to these questions perhaps you wouldnt be ranting!

I detect a lot of pent-up aggression here, over what? lighten up or at least seek help. Life is too short !:)

FlutterinBantam

Slicklink wrote: »

2fm makes enough money COMMERCIALLY to run itself. It IS NOT FUNDED by the taxpayer. IT IS FUNDED BY COMMERCIAL INCOME. IT is a "Stand Alone".

Not that it had to be repeated again given that DMC and Bond have already mentioned it several times in this thread and you have chosen to ignore it and still type a load of ill informed drivel.

Any idea what determines the value of a presenter ?

Do you have any idea what attracts advertisers ?

Any idea what the value of big advertising is worth ?

If you knew the answer to these questions perhaps you wouldnt be ranting!

We know all that!! That is not the issue.

Given the demographic of Irish broadcasting,given the current situation,RTE,with the footprint and commercial recognition it has, could put any half decent punter into the 0900-1200 "slot" and rake in the money.

The issue here is value for money.Do Dublin Bus pay their drivers on the basis of money taken in on each route???.We are talking total commercial package here,not individuals who happen to be on the prime slots.
Now I understand that certain talent must be recognised and rewarded,and no doubt RYan and especially Kenny have some talent,but to say they deserve their salaries on the basis of ad revenue pulled in is quite frankly a load of bollox.

Where are you going to get the class of listener with the spending power in Ireland but RTE!!!
Jaysus its like shooting fish in a barrel,and the ad agencies know it but have little or no other option.

We are not all idiots here:mad:

Fulton Crown

Bond-007 wrote: »

Again I must again restate that Gerry Ryan is not paid from the licence fee or tax payers money.

I will debate with you Bond - not with that cart smunt Moss - sounds like a real hit shed.

Any money paid to Fatt Gerry is not available for programming - so it does not matter whether it comes from licensing or advertising fees - so I say again lazy radio from a cat funt