Power Supply

the fnj

Greetings

Currently overhauling my live rig. I had been using a BCB-60 to house most of my effects but unfortunately it's just too small for my needs and with more boxes coming it's becoming less practical.

As part of my upgrade I've decide to invest in a good power supply for my pedals, think along the lines of a Voodoo Labs Pedal Power or the DC Brick. Anyone on here use one of these or anything similar and have any recommendations?
Ideally I would like something that can power everything in one go so that would mean a mix of boss, moog, line six pedals and a digitech whammy pedal. I've a feeling the whammy will need to be run on a separate supply but if I don't ask I'll never know.

While I have you attention anyone recommend any good flight case builders for effects boards, I know lots of people will say build it myself but I don't mind paying if I get a high quality case.

Cheers

Voodu Child

The problem you'll have with the Whammy is that it's AC whereas most single pedals are (9V) DC.

Most power bricks output just DC - certainly the Dunlop does. And the Voodoo lab ones i see on thomann are AC or DC, so again, doesnt really help.

I see a T-rex branded PSU on thomann that has a bunch of 9V DC outlets and one single 12V AC, so check what the whammy needs (cant recall the voltage), that pedal might suit.

I don't know about the moogs or what power supply they need.

As for line6 - the small pedals are 9V DC, but again the bigger ones are AC. You didn't say which you have. I don't have any line6 pedals but ive heard they're finnicky in terms of PSUs

A list of what pedals you have and their power requirements would help a lot tbh.

the fnj

Hi, thanks for the reply

I've two line six tone core pedals, an echo park and a delay, I did have issue with the tone cores creating buzz when I used the boss power supply and I solved it by powering them separately using a line 6 psu.

Also needing DC power are a Marshall Shredmaster(may be put out to stud soon), Ibanez Tubescreamer, Boss Phaser, Boss Loop Station, Boss Gigadelay, Boss LS2. I'm also debating between buying a Boss NS2 or buying a second line selector and a ISP Decimator. I'll probably buy the second line selector and if I'm having buzz problems I'll invest in the Decimator.

Moogerfooger is on order but it's powered by 9v DC if I'm not mistaken.

My Whammy is at my rehearsal space so I can't check until the weekend but I'm fairly certain it's 9v AC,

Voodu Child

The tone core pedals have some filtering and ground-loop issues, so if you try to use them off the same supply as other pedals (ie Dunlop DC-Brick) you'll get terrible noise. Thats probably why you were having the problems you say.

The only multi-supply (that im aware of) that'll work with the tone cores is the Voodoo Lab one, because each of its feeds are isolated from each other.

So you'll either have to get the Voodoo Lab supply (very expensive), or accept that the Line6 pedals are going to need a separate supply (the one youre using already).

You're going to need more than one supply no matter what - you're probably not going to find one that powers all the 9V DC pedals, also has a 9V AC for the whammy, and to boot has each individual supply isolated to cater for the Line6 pedals.

-=al=-

voodoo_child wrote: »

You're going to need more than one supply no matter what - you're probably not going to find one that powers all the 9V DC pedals, also has a 9V AC for the whammy, and to boot has each individual supply isolated to cater for the Line6 pedals.

Stick it to the man!


sounds like the best way

Parsley

Try one of these mother****ers.

the fnj

Hi, thanks to everyone that responded.

It doesn't look like there is a one stop fix for all my pedals. I'll probably go for t rex fuel tank as I can see the tonecore pedals being replaced at some stage but the whammy will probably stay. I was looking at Furman systems recently but they seem to be only in the American market anyone know of anything similar that takes three pin plugs?

The behringer case wouldn't hold everything either but thanks for the suggestion.

Voodu Child

the fnj wrote: »

I was looking at Furman systems recently but they seem to be only in the American market anyone know of anything similar that takes three pin plugs?

If you mean the pedal boards, they did a European version of the old SPB-8 pedal board - designation was SPB-8E. It had a bunch of 9VDC outlets, as well as standard 220V plug socket for other adaptors, and the whole shebang was isolated (ok for line6) and regulated.

Thats a discontinued product, so you might have to search around for it, or buy used. The current version (SPB-8C) is nicer looking but similar, however they don't do a European voltage of it afaik.

punchdrunk

if the outputs aren't isolated your going to have trouble with the tonecores again,also the moog is reverse polarity and will need an output of it's own also check the ma draw of this one it might also need alot of juice (i know i have my low pass filter on one of the "line 6" outputs of my PPII,the PPII comes with a spare reverse polarity cable so that will do the trick for that one

the fnj

Hey,

Sorry to drag this back up, I just can't find anything on the web.
I've decide that the Voodoo Lab power supply is the way forward, it is expensive but I don't mind spending the money.

What I'm wondering is, will a Pedal Power 2 bought from America work over here. I know a number of rival products will take any AC supply but I looked on the Voodoo Lab website and it's not completely clear. They do include a warning on their AC supply unit stating that it will only work with the correct voltage but no warning is on the PP2 which makes me wonder.

If I buy one from an eBay seller I can pick it up for about €125, they're €192 on Music Store and €199 on Thomann so that is a decent saving.

Cheers

punchdrunk

you'll need the 230 vac version

Voodu Child

Yep, it does say it on the site. It's not a multi-voltage unit, you need the correct 240V version.

MattKid

voodoo_child wrote: »

The tone core pedals have some filtering and ground-loop issues, so if you try to use them off the same supply as other pedals (ie Dunlop DC-Brick) you'll get terrible noise. Thats probably why you were having the problems you say.

The only multi-supply (that im aware of) that'll work with the tone cores is the Voodoo Lab one, because each of its feeds are isolated from each other.

So you'll either have to get the Voodoo Lab supply (very expensive), or accept that the Line6 pedals are going to need a separate supply (the one youre using already).

You're going to need more than one supply no matter what - you're probably not going to find one that powers all the 9V DC pedals, also has a 9V AC for the whammy, and to boot has each individual supply isolated to cater for the Line6 pedals.

He talks the truth.

I've got a pedalboard being made by http://NYCpedalboards.com getting a Pedalhead with a 22" riser. Including shipping it's $271 which isn't a bad price.