The Salary Question

bobbi

Hi,
Just wondering i have an interview coming up for an IT company. In there description they gave the salary range as 24-30K. I'm currently working at Tech Support for the last 7months and i have a degree in Computer Science.

I know I haven't much experience so if they asked the desired salary what would you think is appropriate?

Also I'm on a low salary at the moment of €19,500 how can i avoid telling them this?

Thanks in advance

buckfast4me

Tell them you would like to start at the upper range of the salary they are prepared to offer for this position. Don't say figures. The balls in their court then.

Xcellor

You can inflate your current salary a bit, maybe including bonues and the value of any benefits like health insurance etc. Then you can call this your On target earning.

Sometimes they will only ask you what your salary expectations are. They know that one of the reasons you are looking for other jobs is most likely wanting more money.. although never use this as a reason if they ask.

shantor

with your degree & exp you should ask for the 30k, this means they will offer you 25k, point being ask for more than you would take

average wage in ireland is something like 33k so its not as if you are being a diva

Noelie

It depends how they ask you about salary. some people ask how much would you expect other ask what your current salart is.

if you're asked what would you expect you can really ask for anything and it's up to them to give it or not. if they ask what you are on and you lie you could be caught out. however you could say you recently completed a review stage and got a pay raise.

what you are currently on shouldn't really be a factor as the new company have a budget as long as they are happy with the applicant and they are within budget they shouldn't be a problem with how much more you are getting paid.

PDelux

A few years ago after graduating in engineering i was in a data entry job on €18k. I applied for a new job and had to write my current salary on the application form. I did this truthfully and when I got the new job i was offered €30k which, to say the least, surprised me.
Dont forget you might get other benefits too like health insurance, pension, stock options, bonus.

heavyheart

Wont they be able to tell when you hand them your p45 or p60 ?? whichever one your supposed to hand in when you start a new job ??

shantor

heavyheart wrote: »

Wont they be able to tell when you hand them your p45 or p60 ?? whichever one your supposed to hand in when you start a new job ??

I would guess no

interesting question though, if you lie about your age or address I wonder if they can find that out from guv records

Keyzer

heavyheart wrote: »

Wont they be able to tell when you hand them your p45 or p60 ?? whichever one your supposed to hand in when you start a new job ??

I know a bloke who was sacked one hour after starting a new job as he lied about his salary - the P45 gave him away.

Tell them you are due a pay rise in your current position and that your manager has approved it, your just waiting for it to be finalised...

BigglesMcGee

bobbi wrote: »

Hi,
Just wondering i have an interview coming up for an IT company. In there description they gave the salary range as 24-30K. I'm currently working at Tech Support for the last 7months and i have a degree in Computer Science.

I know I haven't much experience so if they asked the desired salary what would you think is appropriate?

Also I'm on a low salary at the moment of €19,500 how can i avoid telling them this?

Thanks in advance

3 things here.

First you dont have to give them your P45.
Send it to the tax office and tell your company you have done so.
They will then sort it out with the taxman and never know what you were on.

second - What the hell are you thinking taking a salary that low for anyway. I know you are on low money now, but that is taking the piss too.

Thirdly - If a company states a salary range, make it clear at the interview that you are only interested if its the Top figure they quoted. Dont even negotiate. If its through an agent tell them this and not to bother you with offers of less. you dont even want to hear them.

srdb20

Is that the reason they gave fro sacking him?????

Greggles

To be honest you don't have to give your current salary and in any case it's very rarely asked for, I would maybe say "in the region of" if asked but turn the question around in the interview and tell them the salary you "expect" to achieve in your new role!

Agent Smith

Well, I Pick an Optimal Figure,


Offer 24 -30k per Year? then say your on 26k

kerry4sam

had an interview this afternoon and when asked that question i just asked them straight out what were they willing to offer...they took my experience to date etc into account and they offered me the same as what i would be getting for a civil service job and this job only involves a 3mins walk to work with bonuses and perks similar to civil service...

this question will come up, normally at the end of an interview, therefore if you have sold yourself and your qualifications and experience to date to the standard they would relate to the higher level of pay, you will more often than not, get that level of pay (well i did this afternoon anyways)

Mr. Presentable

BigglesMcGee wrote: »

3 things here.

First you dont have to give them your P45.
Send it to the tax office and tell your company you have done so.
They will then sort it out with the taxman and never know what you were on.

.

You don't have to, but here are the consequences etc

http://citizensinformation.ie/News/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-2007/entitlement-to-p45-form/?searchterm=deducted

Greggles

You're right Kerry, I think it's important not to be afraid to be confident and know what you're worth alot of companies need really good people and will pay for them, some will even respect you further for having the balls to be upfont and honest in terms of telling them what you think you're worth

MIN2511

shantor wrote: »

with your degree & exp you should ask for the 30k, this means they will offer you 25k, point being ask for more than you would take

average wage in ireland is something like 33k so its not as if you are being a diva

Sorry but i don't understand.. Comp Science degree and 7months experience = 30k??

BigglesMcGee

There are no consequences.
Tax office tells your current employer what tax to deduct from your salary.
If you you call them to tell them to contact your new employer straight away you will pay no emergency tax. If by some bout of laziness you dont get it sorted in time. Any emergency tax gets refunded when you do sort it out.

You are still paying tax. No laws broken

You get 2 P60s at the end of the year. One from each employer.

Its called something like a week 1 basis reset. Just ring the tax office now and ask them about not wanting to let your new employer know what you used to earn.

I always make it a point never to tell my current emplyer what i was on before.

BigglesMcGee

MIN2511 wrote: »

Sorry but i don't understand.. Comp Science degree and 7months experience = 30k??

Easily. Its very hard to get any IT people these days. If they convince you they are any good at an interview you'll snap them up straight away and pay them properly. If you're not convinced but not sure you'll take them but offer them way less. ... just in case.

MIN2511

My opinion

They ask Salary expectation: you say what you want... 27k(avg of 24-30k)

Only HR look at your P45!

Greggles

Unfortunately most employers expect a degree and in some cases masters also, the only way of further increasing your worth is a PhD, 7 months experience in any industry isn't a huge amount unfortunately

And yes before anyone asks I do work in recruitment!

BigglesMcGee

MIN2511 wrote: »

My opinion

They ask Salary expectation: you say what you want... 27k(avg of 24-30k)

Only HR look at your P45!

Only a small percentage of employers have HR departments. To be honest i hate HR departments. Best avoid companies with these. They are people that are overpaid to make sure you are underpaid but just happy enough not to move.

Better off paying people what they are worth instead of paying HR.

um7y1h83ge06nx

Change your arm and aim high.

I was asked in an interview recently how much I would be looking for.

Reckoned the best I could get with my experience was about 40k so said I'd be looking for something in the mid to late 40's.

They thought that was a bit high, but they offered me the position at 40k.

Aiming high might seem a little arrogant, but it also shows that you are confident in your abilities and think you are worth the money.

If they're interested in you they will probably come back and try and negotiate a lower salary. If you ask for a lower salary than they will consider giving you, they will just give you that.

bobbi

Hey Guys,

Thank for the advice. I'm a very honest person so if they ask i'm going to tell them my real salary. I only ever took that job to get experience. Even with an IT degree unless its a first companies usually want you to have expereience. The money is about half the reason i'm trying to change jobs. Its too low and i feel i deserve more.I would be happy with 25K if i get offered it but i'll say 28K if asked how much i expect.

Any more advice is much appreciated.

Thank you

qwytre

shantor wrote: »

average wage in ireland is something like 33k so its not as if you are being a diva

Thats not fully correct. The average industrial wage is about 33k. But this really means factory type work. If you look at other industries in Ireland e.g in the IT industry the average wage would be higher.

For example, I work in an IT company where the average salary is 55k or 63k if you take into acount the very high earners at management and board level.