Solidworks

Conor108

Anyone know if you can buy this in a a store like PCworld or Harvey Normans? Was using it in school the other day and its great. Any thoughts on it? Looking on sites it seems really expensive:(

DuckSlice

i dont think they would stock a product like that. are you a student otherwise it will cost a lot of money to buy

Conor108

Yeah, was thinking they wouldn't. Ah sure I can just use it at school. Thanks anyway

5uspect

PTC did a "baby" version of ProEngineer called ProDesktop.
http://www.ptc.com/appserver/mkt/educational/program.jsp?&im_dbkey=52408&icg_dbkey=851

While its no Solidworks its no where near as retarded as ProEngineer (I hate ProE with a passion, and I used to have to teach that messy pile of poo )

ressem

I think that the educational version is under 100 euros.

http://www.solidsolutions.ie/education_edition2007.htm

You'll need to ask the supplier whether you qualify, and I think that it expires after 3 years.

Megaimperator

u may ask in "SolidSolutions" they're in Leapardstown Dublin

gucci

5uspect wrote: »

PTC did a "baby" version of ProEngineer called ProDesktop.
http://www.ptc.com/appserver/mkt/educational/program.jsp?&im_dbkey=52408&icg_dbkey=851

While its no Solidworks its no where near as retarded as ProEngineer (I hate ProE with a passion, and I used to have to teach that messy pile of poo )

What do you find so retarded about Pro E? All the unnecessary clicking? I have used both solid works and Pro E, i found it easy enough to make the switch, with Solid Works being bit more user friendly. I'd be interested to hear just what it is you dislike about it.

5uspect

gucci wrote: »

What do you find so retarded about Pro E? All the unnecessary clicking? I have used both solid works and Pro E, i found it easy enough to make the switch, with Solid Works being bit more user friendly. I'd be interested to hear just what it is you dislike about it.

Its the whole GUI in general TBH. Its designed backwards!:eek: Most programs roll out the complexity as you go further into a particular option whereas ProE throws everything at you as soon as you go near the dashboard.

Then there's the terrible side menu (which I hear is mostly gone in Wildfire 3)
Enough said about that the better. That's not to mention trying to find anything like a coherent options menu. (Ever try to export a dxf to a CNC machine in mm and not imperial?)

ProE can be good for projects where you have huge complex assemblies, but its seriously let down by its interface in regards to modelling.

BTW The reason I mentioned ProD is that we found it a great introduction to CAD that was taught to 2nd years before we unleashed the horror of ProE on them. Interface wise its sensibly laid out and intuitive if a little basic and buggy.

Jello

My whole Tech Graph class got SolidWorks (student edition - it's the same) for free off our teacher in school. Maybe you could ask your teacher and see if he can put it on a DVD for you too?

mawk

5uspect wrote: »

Its the whole GUI in general TBH. Its designed backwards!:eek: Most programs roll out the complexity as you go further into a particular option whereas ProE throws everything at you as soon as you go near the dashboard.

(Ever try to export a dxf to a CNC machine in mm and not imperial?)

I agree in part. it is not exactly idiot proof.. but I guess its not designed to be used by idiots.

and I agree in whole to exporting problems, exporting to any file format seems to crap out on me as often as it works

5uspect

mawk wrote: »

I agree in part. it is not exactly idiot proof.. but I guess its not designed to be used by idiots.s

By idiots I assume you mean undergrad engineering students? :rolleyes:
Which is a bit unfair TBH. (I hope that idiot comment was not pointed elsewhere...)

When I was teaching ProE most questions students had related to getting to grips with the unnecessarily complex GUI rather than purely asking about modelling tips. While its something you can get used to its wholly unnecessary. When teaching ProD to the previous year they mostly got to grips with the GUI in the first few labs and and were able to concentrate on efficient modelling from then on.

There's a certain elegance to software design that PTC have thrown out the window with ProE. Its a shame really,

Conor108

Jello wrote: »

My whole Tech Graph class got SolidWorks (student edition - it's the same) for free off our teacher in school. Maybe you could ask your teacher and see if he can put it on a DVD for you too?

Yeah this years CAD class supposedly got it and Im back In Tech Graph next year so we might get it then. Fingers crossed. Excellent program I think.

blacklionboy

I got it for free from my school. i only got the student version but i see no differences in it. what do you use solidworks for by the way?

risk

in firness solidworks is starting to be less and less used in industry. you should deff look into using either pro-e or catia v5. v5 is growing like theres no tomorrow

dave2pvd

risk wrote: »

in firness solidworks is starting to be less and less used in industry. you should deff look into using either pro-e or catia v5. v5 is growing like theres no tomorrow

What on earth are you talking about?

More accurate would be to say it is or already has become the solid modeling standard.

TommyMcG08

it costs 6,500 for the basic version do you still want to buy it? ha

Neodymium

In case anyone doesn't know all autodesk software including autoCAD is completely free (and legal) to download if you are a student or instructor. Link Here: students.autodesk.com

kirving

I have a range of AutoDesk packages, and Solid Edge, and Solidworks on my computer thanks to college.

They're student versions, so the drawings will be watermarked, perventing me from using them as part of a business, but it is fantastic to be able to have a free home copy.

I think I got Solid Edge via a USB key from DIT, can't remeber how I got SolidWorks.


With anything from Autodesk, you'll need a collage email address, which AutoDesk cross reference against a list of address provided to them by your college. If you're eligible, you are then sent the download link and produck key.

I don't think a photography student with an "@mydit.ie" can get AutoDesk products, while I couldn't get, say PhotoShop, for free.

Neodymium

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I have a range of AutoDesk packages, and Solid Edge, and Solidworks on my computer thanks to college.

They're student versions, so the drawings will be watermarked, perventing me from using them as part of a business, but it is fantastic to be able to have a free home copy.

I think I got Solid Edge via a USB key from DIT, can't remeber how I got SolidWorks.


With anything from Autodesk, you'll need a collage email address, which AutoDesk cross reference against a list of address provided to them by your college. If you're eligible, you are then sent the download link and produck key.

I don't think a photography student with an "@mydit.ie" can get AutoDesk products, while I couldn't get, say PhotoShop, for free.

No you don't need a college email address. I'm still in secondary school and I downloaded software from the site using my personal email.

Irish_Elect_Eng

risk wrote: »

in firness solidworks is starting to be less and less used in industry. you should deff look into using either pro-e or catia v5. v5 is growing like theres no tomorrow

Sooooo Wrong :-)