Bernard Dunne v Felix Machado

patmac

Ok after a few drinks one night we decided to treat my 70 year old mother in law to a night out at the boxing in Castlebar next Saturday seats are pretty good would need to be @ €100 a pop, am looking forward to it but the build up has been very low key. The only information I can fight on the fight is from Dunne's own website. A few questions as I am not an expert;
Is Macahdo any good or is he a has been has lost his last 2 fights and is 35.
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=007192&cat=boxer
It starts at 6 pm but I suppose the main action wont start till 10 pm, this is the undercard according to RTE, any info on any of these?
Another international 10 rounder on the card will feature Andrew Murray.

The undefeated Cavan man has racked up 11 straight wins in the pro ranks and is also the reigning Irish Light Welterweight champion. He's been busy of late racking up two stoppage wins in the last three weeks and he'll aim to take a step up in class this weekend.

There will be plenty of local interest on the card to with Castlebar's very own Keith Cresham making his pro debut and Ballinrobe's Michael Sweeney looking to extend his unbeaten record.

London based Galway native John O'Donnell also features on the card.

cowzerp

Machado is a good boxer but at the end of his career so is more of a stepping stone for bernard, this is pretty standard after a loss, it could of been a much easier opponent by right-it will be a good night and you'll enjoy it..

jayroyal

Who's Keith Cresham i haven't heard of him in the amatuers.

03mcgs0

To be honest I thought Dunne would have taken an even easier fight, after such a bad defeat.

Yeah the the unbeaten Cavan fella Andy Murray is the main undercard so that should be good all so. He's stepping up in standard as his opponent has only lost once in 16 fights but I reckon he should still win, he's a classy fighter and he gets the fights could possibly go a long way.

Have a good night, at €100 a ticket you better damn get one. Thats a lot of money for one nights entertainment. It makes you wonder where does all the money go?? How much would Dunne be get for headlining...€50,000?

patmac

03mcgs0 wrote: »

To be honest I thought Dunne would have taken an even easier fight, after such a bad defeat.

Yeah the the unbeaten Cavan fella Andy Murray is the main undercard so that should be good all so. He's stepping up in standard as his opponent has only lost once in 16 fights but I reckon he should still win, he's a classy fighter and he gets the fights could possibly go a long way.

Have a good night, at €100 a ticket you better damn get one. Thats a lot of money for one nights entertainment. It makes you wonder where does all the money go?? How much would Dunne be get for headlining...€50,000?

Just checked the seating arrangement and am very dissapointed would have liked to be closer we are block E row f seats 123 http://www.ticketmaster.ie/seatingchart/198295/11884
I suppose there is nothing we can do now but standard tickets were €60 which were all gone then there was ringside and our tickets €317 for 3 by the time ticketmaster take there bit, rip off Ireland strikes again.

megadodge

Who's Keith Cresham i haven't heard of him in the amatuers

My info on him is very vague, but one of my buddies has sparred with him quite extensively in the last two years. Supposed to be very well built (former bodybuilder I think) light-heavy. Has only been boxing for the last 2-3 years but has been showing good improvement for a late starter, but was still a shock when he announced he was turning pro.

I know he boxed in the last intermediates and believe he put up a good performance in losing, but can't remember the exact details.

walshb

60-100 Euro to watch Dunne?

Where do they get off charging this?

Well, I suppose nobody is being forced to pay, so best of
luck to Bernard and crew....

I'm not going to make any predictions, as the last time I predicted
Bernard to win, he was KO'd. I have never seen his opponent. All
I know is that he's a blown up Fly. This IMO says enough...

Hero Of College

walshb wrote: »

60-100 Euro to watch Dunne?

Where do they get off charging this?

Well, I suppose nobody is being forced to pay, so best of
luck to Bernard and crew....

I'm not going to make any predictions, as the last time I predicted
Bernard to win, he was KO'd. I have never seen his opponent. All
I know is that he's a blown up Fly. This IMO says enough...

My sentiments exactly. Its a load of ****e. He's fighting a Nobody flyweight with a losing streak and they are dressing it up as a fight against a former world champ. Why doesnt he fight a former European champ, like Kiko Martinez, instead of diving back in at the deep end against a former world champ:D:D:D

€100 a pop for a decent seat? The country is full of gobsh!tes who just can't resist going to a "fight", singing the national anthem and sinking a few pints.

Big Ears

Hero Of College wrote: »

€100 a pop for a decent seat? The country is full of gobsh!tes who just can't resist going to a "fight", singing the national anthem and sinking a few pints.

and if they're happy to do that then there really isn't a problem is there ? , you can watch from the comfort of your sofa for free .

cowzerp

Hero Of College wrote: »

Why doesnt he fight a former European champ, like Kiko Martinez, instead of diving back in at the deep end against a former world champ:D:D:D

Kiko only fought a couple of weeks ago so would not be available,
He is fighting a former world champ any way you look at it, most people know this is a tuner fight and a welcome back for bernard, if you understand boxing you'd know this is important for a fighter who's confidence was rocked.

Hero Of College wrote: »

€100 a pop for a decent seat? The country is full of gobsh!tes who just can't resist going to a "fight", singing the national anthem and sinking a few pints.

There is nothing wrong with people wanting to go to see a fight and show some national pride, get off your high horse and dont pay to see the fight if thats how you feel, im going to watch it on tele but love the atmosphere at the live events.

alanceltic

[QUOTE=Hero Of College;55640537
€100 a pop for a decent seat? The country is full of gobsh!tes who just can't resist going to a "fight", singing the national anthem and sinking a few pints.[/QUOTE]

Oh man take a chill pill and get a life! Whats the difference between this and say 80,000 people paying €80 to go watching a rugby/soccer/gaelic match in Croker and having a few scoops, its called having fun and enjoying your sport, by the sounds of your post everone on here is a gobsh*te because most who post here would regularly pay this sort of money to attend sporting events, its simple if you dont like it dont go, by all means voice your disagreement if you think its too expensive (what isnt these days) but dont criticise others who are willing to pay it, anyways its on the box and 95-98% of people will watch it for free.....

Running Bing

They absolutely take the piss with the prices.


A father wants to take his son to see a boxing match and it costs him €200 for half decent seats? Piss take imo...especially with the standard of fights being offered.

OK I know some people will pay it but I have noticed a lot of empty seats at recent fights and I would not be surprised to see a fair few empty seats at this.


If people are willing to pay I suppose you cant complain, it just really really annoys me that I absolutely love the sport and I am a big fan and I cant afford to go to these fights.


Yeah I know boo hoo for me;) at least Ill have Jimmy McGee to keep me company at home:(

Running Bing

alanceltic wrote: »

Oh man take a chill pill and get a life! Whats the difference between this and say 80,000 people paying €80 to go watching a rugby/soccer/gaelic match in Croker and having a few scoops, its called having fun and enjoying your sport, by the sounds of your post everone on here is a gobsh*te because most who post here would regularly pay this sort of money to attend sporting events, its simple if you dont like it dont go, by all means voice your disagreement if you think its too expensive (what isnt these days) but dont criticise others who are willing to pay it, anyways its on the box and 95-98% of people will watch it for free.....

TBH I pay €15 into my local Eircom league ground and with the standard of some of these fights.................

alanceltic

I hear what you are saying but I suppose its market forces which sets the prices and its being run as a business at the end of the day, as long as people are prepared to pay then the high prices are here to stay IMO, its kinda wierd to look back to 3 years ago when there was NO apetite for pro boxing in this country to where we are today, as a lover of most sports theres nothing quite like "being there" but im luck enough to come across freebie corporates quite regularly but id still pay if i didnt... On the flip side of the ticket prices it is only natural to expect that the lure of the pro€€€ will attract more full time pros from the amateur ranks which can only be a good thing long term. Fair play to you going to LOI matches, just shows that you dont always have to spend a fortune to enjoy your "live" sport...

raven136

anyone catch Roddy Collins on off the ball last night?He was doing his usual Eircom League preview and a texter asked did he think Dunne would win.His exact quote i don thave but what he said summed up what a lot of boxing fans are saying,Peters is rolling in dirt putting on so called big fights with washed up fighters,Dunne should win as long as he keeps his hands up.

Comments like that wont be getting him on rte's panel anytime soon so:D

03mcgs0

raven136 wrote: »

anyone catch Roddy Collins on off the ball last night?He was doing his usual Eircom League preview and a texter asked did he think Dunne would win.His exact quote i don thave but what he said summed up what a lot of boxing fans are saying,Peters is rolling in dirt putting on so called big fights with washed up fighters,Dunne should win as long as he keeps his hands up.

Comments like that wont be getting him on rte's panel anytime soon so:D

Yes I do know what you mean Raven, Brian Peters does bring over a lot of older fighters who appear to be looking for paydays but its hard to knock the man, he's bring pro boxin all over Ireland (i.e. Dublin, Limerick, Letterkenny, Castlebar) and for that and that alone I respect him. He must be making money because he's putting on so many shows. Does anyone know what other shows has he got coming up?? Below is a link to all the shows he's put on, hardly any of the home fighters have ever lost, only a handful from what i can see.

http://www.britishboxing.net/promoters_338-Brian-Peters.html

Hero Of College

Babybing wrote: »

They absolutely take the piss with the prices.


A father wants to take his son to see a boxing match and it costs him €200 for half decent seats? Piss take imo...especially with the standard of fights being offered.

OK I know some people will pay it but I have noticed a lot of empty seats at recent fights and I would not be surprised to see a fair few empty seats at this.


If people are willing to pay I suppose you cant complain, it just really really annoys me that I absolutely love the sport and I am a big fan and I cant afford to go to these fights.


Yeah I know boo hoo for me;) at least Ill have Jimmy McGee to keep me company at home:(

Jimmy is crap. Period. The best case for mandatory retirement ever.

Hero Of College

cowzerp wrote: »

Kiko only fought a couple of weeks ago so would not be available,
He is fighting a former world champ any way you look at it, most people know this is a tuner fight and a welcome back for bernard, if you understand boxing you'd know this is important for a fighter who's confidence was rocked.

Way to miss the point. Or the joke, whichever

If Bernard was worth a damn he would have arranged an immediate rematch with Kiko. Ben has NO jaw and is DRAINED at 122. He came down from 126 cos he had even less chance there. I understand plenty about boxing to know that Ben WAS NOT smacking Manny Pac around in training, like his Da said he was.:eek::eek::rolleyes:

Bernard can't crack too good either. He's all left hand. He has a beautiful smooth style and thats it.

And no, Ben is not "Dublins #1 Son" either. If he was, he wouldn't be out in Ballina or Castlebar or wherever it is.

Hero Of College

alanceltic wrote: »

Oh man take a chill pill and get a life!

I have a life, and it doesn't involve being fleeced so I can stand in a sweaty hall in me Ben Shermans off my face singing the song as Ben Done In One comes out to get waxed by a part-time tortilla maker.

alanceltic wrote:

Whats the difference between this and say 80,000 people paying €80 to go watching a rugby/soccer/gaelic match in Croker and having a few scoops, its called having fun and enjoying your sport

The difference is the BULL**** FACTOR. The difference is I don't go DEAF as Brian Peters DJ's blare out Joe Dolan and Los Lobos between fights and rounds. THe difference is that Dublin vs Kerry is a pick em, not a fukc!ng joke of an arrangement, which Dunne vs Machado is. The difference is Ireland vs Germany is an open contest with no horsesh!te thrown in. Thats the difference. This is a load of JUNK. Bernard should NOT be in MAYO. This isn;t a comeback its a money spinner and too many people are too thick to see it.

alanceltic wrote:

by the sounds of your post everone on here is a gobsh*te because most who post here would regularly pay this sort of money to attend sporting events

Well Brian Peters knows that he's running out of gobsheens so he hit the road and didn't try to sell his moody goods too often in Dublin, lest someone call the Omsbudsman. Again...MAYO.:rolleyes:

alanceltic wrote:

its simple if you dont like it dont go, by all means voice your disagreement if you think its too expensive (what isnt these days) but dont criticise others who are willing to pay it, anyways its on the box and 95-98% of people will watch it for free.....

True. I'm not a critic per se...I follow boxing intimately, and, for me, Peters is a snake oil sales man selling an inferior product to people that really should tell him where to go. Thats all. Jimmy Magee should know better than to think that we all know so little about boxing as to believe that "Andy Lee Could Knock A House Down".:(

donmeister

dont know keith cresham?

well i do,because he used to be my manager in dunne stores!lol
does anyone know if his fight will be on rte 2nyt>?
watch out for him,hes really well built,used to be a bodybuilder,but now a great boxer!

yeah-buddy

It's all Hunky Dory!

Hero Of College

yeah-buddy wrote: »

It's all Hunky Dory!

Lightweight Baby! Lightweight Baby!! Yeaaahhhhh Buddy!!!

PS "Hunky Dory" was the text my mate sent me around 2 mins after Ben "Done In One" got waxed by Martinez.

Judomad

Hero Of College wrote: »

Lightweight Baby! Lightweight Baby!! Yeaaahhhhh Buddy!!!

PS "Hunky Dory" was the text my mate sent me around 2 mins after Ben "Done In One" got waxed by Martinez.

im going to make my opinion on you and your posts public, you sound like an ugly little troll who hides behind a fake name and you used to box and failed MISSERABLY....i think thats your real problem......by all means if im wrong let me know but i still couldnt give a rats, your sounding like an ignorant, tight pocketed muppet on here.....IMO :D:

Running Bing

If you tell me Machado did not win one round of that fight I will call you mad!


**** judging imo.


Must say I am getting very cynical about this pro box love show. Its an irish show out to promote Irish boxing which I think is fantastic and you expect the commentary to be a bit biased but they just take the p1ss. It makes me sick listening to the commentary.


We often slag the English off for being biased in their commentary with the football or with Lewis Hamilton but I have never seen an English production with the level of bias on that show. Its not commentary its just bigging up the Irish fighter.:mad:

dlofnep

I think Dunne won comfortably. Yes the analysis is biased, but anyone can make up their own judgement. I saw Bernard losing only 2-3 rounds at most.

dlofnep

Hero Of College wrote: »

PS "Hunky Dory" was the text my mate sent me around 2 mins after Ben "Done In One" got waxed by Martinez.

I'd rather be done in one, than have never competed in my life.

Stick to your armchair. Leave the fight analysis to real fans.

Running Bing

dlofnep wrote: »

I think Dunne won comfortably. Yes the analysis is biased, but anyone can make up their own judgement. I saw Bernard losing only 2-3 rounds at most.

But winning every round? Not a chance imo. Dont think you can begrudge Dunne the win but I had that a lot closer.

Machado landed a lot of clean shots and did a lot of coming forward in the fight. He slapped like my sister no doubt but he did a lot of good work to the body. I was amazed when I heard 90-100.

RealJohn

I thought Dunne probably did enough but that 100-90 score was a disgrace. Machado gave him a lot of trouble early on and definitely won a few rounds.

Dunne has quite a bit of work to do.

Oilrig

Guys, stand back and look at it. Dunne was never going to loose.

He was never a title prospect IMHO. No punch, sloppy defence.

After his last defeat he had no option other than prove himself as a viable journeyman. He's a pro and needs to carve a living out of this.

Nice guy btw.

Ginger83

Maybe I was watching the wrong fight but I found it hard to see Dunne winning all ten rounds. Obvisiously the decision was always going to go in his favour.
I surprised he won at all personally, close for me but maybe just Dunne.

nacho libre

Dunne won but the ref' was harsh on Machado, as he definitely won at least 4 rounds.

cournioni

Well done Andy Murray, it may have been a borderline low blow but the Brazilian guy was being beaten from pillar to post before that and used it to get out of a fight that he was never going to win.

Onwards and upwards for Murray!

walshb

Dunne comfortably won that sparring session. He boxed smooth, never really exerted himself, as Dowling noted. Machado didn't exert himself either. Dunne wasn't at all happy with is performance, but what was he expecting? A KO? He has proved time and time again, that he's not capable of putting away really average opponents.....

raven136

What next for him?Will he get a crack at the european title now and furthermore would he win hit.

patmac

So anyway, overall it was a disapointing night, the arena was fine but the venue was rubbish (no food bar Hunky Dory crisps, bar staff without a clue etc). The undercard was poor the Sweeney fight was pretty good as was the Grishan fight, but the rest of the undercard was bad with 4 1 round stoppages including Murray's 'low blow'. The atmosphere for the main event was pretty decent, but I wasn't impressed with the fight as I felt it never really got going, thought Dunne was average at best, my mother in law reckon's Dunne isn't half the fighter he was since he got married and she could be right!
The worst part of it all was the camera man was right in my line of vision so I missed most of the action. So for €100 to see a non title fight from a seat at the back of the hall with a cameraman standing in my way very bad value in my opinion, would I go again, no.